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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:06 PM
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Why is Hillary stealing Obama's "Yes we can" mantra??? Desperate?
I mean come on - her campaign staff should be creative enough to come up with something original (if she wants to sell the same message) without outright copying Obama. He's been using "yes we can" from Day 1. Say what you will, his message hasn't changed, Hillary's has.

I would think this tactic would put off more people than it would bring in. How can she be critical of her opponent and co-op his message?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:07 PM
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1. why are her supporters also stealing
gomama? yes she can? c'mon people you can be a little more creative then that right?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:12 PM
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17. Since when are Clinton folks stealing GOMAMA from Obamababies?
why are her supporters also stealing

gomama? yes she can? c'mon people you can be a little more creative then that right?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:18 PM
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24. as much as i've seen you sniping im suprised you havnt
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:18 PM by fenriswolf
seen it for yourself.
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mutant80 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:49 PM
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50. Wow! This is so .... it's well worth 15 threads!
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:57 PM
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55. well i havnt started any so whatever.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:53 PM
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54. Meme of the day, "Yes We Can Copycat"
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:20 PM
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57. it's meant to be an insult to us obama supporters.
they enjoy insulting us. it strokes their little kid egos.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:07 PM
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2. I saw that, which made me cringe. She looks pathetic. nt
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:26 PM
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33. Her "experience" theme is eerily similar to this advertisement

"Innovation Begins with Experience"
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/
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mutant80 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:50 PM
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51. Will Obamites Ever Stop Whining?
Your candidate is a nothing so this is all you can come up witih?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:07 PM
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3. obamababies stole it from United Farm Workers--know your history before you spout off.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:13 PM by rodeodance
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:09 PM
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Are the thousands of other union workers who use this slogan babies too?
It's an expression of solidarity.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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10. that was not my point but you knew that didn't you.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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7. You get the prize for most irrelevant comments. n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM by sparosnare
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:22 PM
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29. since when is TRUTH irrelavant?---let me guess--for some Obamababie who like to whin.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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8. "obambabies" What are you? 12
..
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mutant80 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:51 PM
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52. They're mad as hell and they're not takin' it anymore :-)
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:08 PM
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Probably for the same reason she wants 50 freakin' debates between now and the convention...
...she's reaching. "Big Mo" is slipping away and she knows it.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:08 PM
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4. Why did Obama steal it from the United Farm Workers - Hillary's supporters? nt
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:13 PM
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19. I didn't realize the UFW were running for POTUS.
We're talking about campaign slogans, and HRCs inability to come up with her own as it pertains to her POTUS campaign, or stick to her own message. It's one thing to adopt some principles, but it's another to morph into your competitors. She's done it with Obama, time and time again, and she's also doing it with Edwards message. Not adopting it, but trying to own it.

Goes back to the realization that she tried to run on her name alone, and not motivate or energize the base. That can be seen by the observations of her primary demographics. Female (a given - despite every woman I know is voting/has voted for Obama, including myself), and that she draws older voters who are less likely to want change, and like the status quo.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:25 PM
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31. The United Farm Workers ARE running for President - supporting Hillary.....nt
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:45 PM
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47. Wow, how are they going to fit them all in the white house?
:eyes:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:08 PM
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5. Obama stole it from Bob the Builder.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:11 PM
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15. sorry, I forgot that one.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:44 PM
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45. LOL
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:09 PM
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6. HOW MANY TIMES are the Obamababies going to cry about this!! you do not own it -so many
threads about this already--!!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:11 PM
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14. No, Obama doesn't own it. But when Hillary starts parroting him, she looks silly. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:15 PM
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21. and the latest Obama "parrot" from Obama: He followed Hillary --he has recently
learned it is good strategy to talk issues.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:29 PM
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36. what about her "borrowing" a southern accent that time
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:34 PM
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39. OMG! I had never seen that before! She's just like Bush!
:rofl:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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9. Mantra??? Sounds a bit cultish to me! n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:12 PM
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16. Yeah, us Obama supporters, millions of us, are a cult and will take over the world.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:12 PM by sparosnare
Our mission is to make things better. :scared:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:17 PM
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23. Then Hillary is your gal "Our mission is to make things better."
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:19 PM
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26. No, Hillary's mission is to maintain the status quo and not piss off the corporations. n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:19 PM by sparosnare
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:25 PM
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32. blind faith rears again.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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11. YES, SHE IS!!
Hillary has never had an original thought or written an original line in her life.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:18 PM
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25. and ~YES SHE CAN, YES WE CAN~~
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:21 PM
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27. You must really want to be in our cult. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:24 PM
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30. nah--you keep it--I am not into that kinda stuff--its all for the Obamababies.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:38 PM
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42. YES, SHE DOES!!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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12. Because she's a known thief
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:10 PM
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13. You must have nothing to do today.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:12 PM
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18. LOL ! ! you guys are funny, oh so funny
we now have a creative fight in our hands...whooopeeee!!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:14 PM
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20. Mark Penn won't give her any new 'creative' slogans until
she pays up the remainng $1.5 million she owes his company. (Oh, Hillary, just write another check.)
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:31 PM
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37. Maybe Penn can borrow from this slogan
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:19 PM
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56. Ahhhhh
:wow:
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:16 PM
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22. Hilllary has taken everything from Obama & Edwards that has worked.
Her staff has been unable to come up with anything original that resonates with the voters.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:21 PM
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28. "resonates"---well, seems to me the press has picked up the oddness of
the obama campaign.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:28 PM
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34. Next thing you know she'll be stealing his Delegates.
Oh, wait.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:29 PM
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35. You do know it isn't original to Obama, right?
It was and is the United Farm Workers' slogan. Obama stole it from them. They're supporting Hillary, by the way.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:33 PM
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38. I know that. You're not seeing my point.
Obama has been using "yes we can" as a slogan for his presidential campaign since it began; he has not changed his message. Hillary has changed her message many times (to whatever seems to be working for someone else) and has now decided to outright copy her opponent's slogan.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:37 PM
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40. You're right. Your point is too small to be seen
by an electron microscope.

Obama may have been using the slogan since he bagan, but he still stole it. He didn't originate it any more than Clinton did. If anything, she has more right to it because its authors have endorsed her.

Your double standard, now, that's large enough to see a hundred miles away.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:41 PM
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43. Um....the UFWs are not running for nominee of the Democratic Party.
:eyes:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:47 PM
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49. No, the farm workers stole it from him.
Before there was anything else, there was Obama! All that is was and is and ever shall be Obama! Blessed be the name of Obama!
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:37 PM
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41. the "change" theme has been around a long time... Bill Clinton had Change on his bus years before
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:42 PM
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44. Desperada ... Why don't you come to your senses?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:45 PM
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46. Just maybe it's a calculated move towards unity with Obama
I know this might be a radical idea, but just maybe it's a calculated way of moving towards Obama, a joining of messages designed to bring the party to unity through use of a common language that works.

Maybe????

:shrug:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:46 PM
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48. Oh brother, "You stole my slogan!"
Maybe the problem is that's all he's got.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:52 PM
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53. Perhaps because she actually has a plan, rather than "hoping" ?
:shrug:

Obama's views on universal heath are fairy tales come to life.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:31 PM
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58. Hope is baaad..
:scared:
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