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Sun Feb-10-08 02:50 PM
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With all this "hate" talk just wanted to ask a simple question... |
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Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:51 PM by southernleftylady
Do you truly HATE the other candidate? Clinton supporters do you HATE Obama? Obama supporters do you HATE Clinton? just a simple question... I see each side throwing out "well they just blindly hate him/her" so I just wanted to clear the air :)
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:53 PM
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1. emotions have been frayed to the breaking point, unfortunately. |
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the underlying human nature at work is no mystery to anyone who's read "lord of the flies".
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:59 PM
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I don't really trust him, but I'll vote for him if he wins the nomination (and do everything I can to hold his feet to the fire)
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:00 PM
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hate Clinton. She was originally my third choice behind Biden and Obama. I don't hate her at all. If she wins I'll support her.
She's just not my first choice. Second is still a whole lot better than "I'll never ever vote for her no matter what." That's tossed around by both Obama and Hillary supporters and I think it's silly.
This "Screw you guys, I'm going home" attitude if your only choice doesn't win the nomination could cost us the SCOTUS if enough people are that short sighted.
Mz Pip :dem:
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:16 PM
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Obama has not been my first choice but, like you, I will vote for the party nominee, just as I did for Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry...
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:01 PM
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6. I'm thinking of blaming educators for this one, too |
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Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:06 PM by HereSince1628
It's all about educators having concentrated on all this Affective Reasoning: Students need attitudes. All this edumakashun means nothing without an affective core.
Yep, ya know attitudes can motivate behavior.
And if we check GDP? Yep. Everyone I read in GDP has attitude.
Students have learned the lessons well: they're REALLY motivated from Affective Beliefs to write all kinds of things in GDP
Oh! The irony of unintended consequences! OH! :rofl:
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:03 PM
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7. There is only one person I hate |
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:06 PM
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But I am an Obama supporter by default, since I came in as an ABCer, and right now Obama is the only remaining A.
So what, though? To me, it is like Bush hatred. The hatred does not come before the perfidy. After a long train of abuses and usurpations though, hatred becomes a logical response. Unlike some, I have not done an "about face" on my opposition to the DLC.
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:14 PM
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9. I don't hate Obama; I don't even hate McCain or Huckabee |
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I am confused by Democrats who, supposedly, are rational people, do not follow blindly any leader, are not impressed by the air of celebrity, yet in this season vote based on visceral emotions.
Many women (white and divorced) would not vote for Clinton because she did not divorce Bill.
And many black people vote for Obama because he is black.
When did we leave our rational thinking behind?
Even more important - don't Obama supporters realize that by not putting him under a magnifying glass - the way Clinton has been - they set him and themselves up for vicious smear campaign by Karl Rove, next to which the swifters would appear like the boy scouts?
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:17 PM
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I think a lot of his supporters here act like little children with no intellectual argument, but that doesn't change my opinion of him as a candidate. He's a great dem and great candidate, and I'd be proud to vote for him in the GE (though Hil is still getting the nom)
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:30 PM
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12. I don't HATE Clinton. |
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In fact, I think she is interesting and accomplished. She's a person I would love to have dinner with. I think she's very intelligent, has a good sense of humor, and is attractive.
However, I don't want her to be president, and I won't vote for her.
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:42 PM
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13. 7 years of Bush, everyones nerves are on end |
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not just on political forums Its not a good recipe for civility. The world will not end, if Obama loses The world will not end, if Clinton loses The world will not end, if McCain wins
I'd much rather have a strong majority in Congress, then either of our current candidates. I'm trying to pick which Congressional races to support. In 2004 and 2006 I supported races (at least financially) around the country My local candidate is safe. So I'm looking for good pickup opportunity races to help financially for the GE
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:55 PM
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14. hating candidates or not |
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How can you hate someone you've never met, been around or had to deal with on a daily basis? Sadly I think many people are so lacking in emotional intelligence they can't even distinguish between their thoughts, analysis, feelings, or physical state. Anything that causes any reaction is labeled an emotion, frustration is road rage, etc. We are all the victims of media superficiality and the judgmental universe created by conservative moralists.
Of course I don't hate any politician but I am afraid of giving them power over my life. To the extent that they profess or hold beliefs antithetical to mine, I will resist letting them win and I will resist their policies. That's why I don't understand so many people threatening to not vote--well, just bend over and hand them the stick.
I am fed up, disgusted, and exhausted by all the clever retorts that are not thought through, but part of that is immaturity and part of it is just following along with what everyone else demonstrates as role models. No one wants to have supported a looser in this nation--and that's why the competition is so vicious. We are a nation of competitors, like it or not.
I also don't like being taken for granted--like when the Obama groupies say that the Clintonites will vote for Obama, or vice versa. We are all fully capable of casting a vote for a bade choice or not voting at all and we should be a bit more respectful.
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