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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:04 PM
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Republicans want Obama
NPR host thinks GOP 'agenda' is to help Obama win Dem nomDavid Edwards and Ron Brynaert
Published: Sunday February 10, 2008

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http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Juan_Williams_calls_out_Fox_analysts_0210.html




Many political insiders and pundits seem to be more interested in whom the Republicans want to win the Democratic presidential nomination than anyone else.

Talk show host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wants to raise money for Senator Hillary Clinton in order to "unite the party," while Ann Coulter dislikes Republican frontrunner John McCain so much that she - seriously or not - said she may vote for Clinton. However, the New York Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corps. empire, endorsed Obama in the New York primary.

On Fox News Sunday, NPR's Juan Williams told The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol that he thought Republican analysts want Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee because they actually believe he will be easier to defeat than Clinton.

"I think Bill Kristol is being very supportive of Mr. Obama, but you have an agenda," Williams charged. "You guys think it's easy to beat Barack Obama going forward."

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:06 PM
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1. It should be obvious.
Bush will get a government formed in Iraq and bring home 50,000 troops in the fall.
This will leave Obama with little to stand on.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:08 PM
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8. Are youu series??!!?? HA HA HA Dim Son will do WHAT????
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:11 PM
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13. that is the plan
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:21 PM
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24. Let me ask you something, AX10...
...at this point, do you like Bush better than Obama? You've been calling the latter an awful lot of names lately, while now you apparently believe the former will actually be able to accomplish something in Iraq before he leaves office.

Honestly, who do you dislike more at this point?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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44. The point is that Bush will try to take Iraq off.
the table in the fall.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:47 PM
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35. Oh please. Limbaugh is pushing for people to donate to Clinton
b/c as Limbaugh says "Keep her in it to win it." That is for the Republicans to win it in the general election. And for those who say "that Limbaugh is stating the opposite give me a break - like his listeners would know that his rant "really means "don't donate to Clinton."
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:06 PM
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2. Not buying it for a second........Hillary is their dream candidate for both fundraising and get....
out the vote.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:07 PM
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3. Zogby says the neocons want Hillary to win to continue their war.
12-30-07 Washingon Journal, first guest.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:07 PM
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4. Pretty transparent tactics. "Gosh the GOP wants Obama, so I better run to Hillary" Then the GOP gets
to run the playbook that they are drooling to play.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:07 PM
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5. Let them think that they thought they would win 06 too.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:08 PM
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6. Everybody wants Obama..
I want Obama.
Have a sip.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:08 PM
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7. You couldn't tell by the Cheerleading Buchanon and Bill Bennett have been doing
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 04:08 PM by BrentTaylor
for Hillary
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:43 PM
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32. Buchannan is absolutely frantic in his spin. Last night he was reading
from a piece of paper with Hillary talking points.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:09 PM
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9. You're going to trust the word of JUAN WILLIAMS?
The Fox News Shill who defended O'Reilly's "I want my Motherf-ing Iced Tea" comments?

Getouttahere.
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mrmx9 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:12 PM
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14. Juan Williams is even more biased for Hillary than Bergala and Carville!
He is always talking up Hillary whenever he appears on Fox News Sunday or their primary coverage. There aren't that many people of cable news that actively demonstrate their bias for Hillary but Juan is juan!
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:14 PM
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17. Don't you mean Juan is Number Juan?
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 04:14 PM by Bicoastal
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:12 PM
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16. I didn't say I trusted anybody. Don't attack me, I was just
showing you what is being said.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:10 PM
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10. NOW comes the Rovian reverse psychology, coming
right out and saying that they think Obama will be easier to beat.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:10 PM
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11. Clue for billy kristol:
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 04:11 PM by katsy
You'll take whomever we, the Democratic voters, give you. This is our party, not yours.

Deal with the fact that both of our candidates are better than your entire slate of losers.
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mrmx9 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:22 PM
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25. Is Billy Kristol doing the Oscars this year - I could see him breaking the picket lines!
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:27 PM
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29. He is?
the gop never has problems with breaking picket lines.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:10 PM
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12. That's very obvious, red flags everywhere
Endorsements from conservative news sources, hands off approach to anything controversial about Obama, etc.

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beberocks Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:17 PM
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21. Yep! Notice how the MSM can't say anything bad about him?
Not a word about Rezko or his voting record, or his drug use. They want Obama because they know people won't vote for him once they learn all the facts about him.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:27 PM
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28. That's one perspective....
and here's another.



There's something to say about someone who owns up to his mistakes.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:47 PM
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36. educate yourself: THE REZKO PRIMAR
THE REZKO PRIMAR BY ARCH PUNDIT



THE REZKO PRIMAR BY ARCH PUNDIT


The best synopsis of the Obama Rezko relationship was done by the Trib on January 23rd:

Both men declined to comment on their once-close friendship. Obama has been accused of no wrongdoing involving Rezko and has insisted that he never used his office to benefit Rezko.

Thus far, there is little in the public record to suggest otherwise, and the few exceptions that have come to light appear minor. On Capitol Hill, Obama once gave a summer internship to the son of a Rezko business associate on Rezko’s recommendation. Earlier, as a state senator, Obama was one of several South Side political and community leaders who wrote state and city officials urging approval of public funding for a senior housing project involving Rezko.

But when Rezko pushed for passage in Springfield of a major gambling measure, Obama vocally opposed it.

Obama publicly apologized for his 2005 property deal with Rezko, calling it “boneheaded” because Rezko was widely reported to be under grand jury investigation at the time. And Obama has given to charities $85,000 in Rezko-linked campaign contributions, including $40,035 last weekend following a published report suggesting that Rezko funneled a $10,000 donation to Obama through a business associate. Aides to Obama say the senator had no knowledge of any such scheme.


Rezko is tied to nearly every major politician in Illinois over the last couple decades going back to Jim Edgar under whom he received his first state contract. Rezko’s reputation as a slumlord largely got started after Obama was not practicing law full time and was largely dealt with by the City of Chicago and not state government entities.


FOR A FULL OVER VIEW SEE THE ARCH PUNDIT'S PRIMAR ON REZKO
http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/01/24/the-rezko-primer /

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:12 PM
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15. Personally, I don't give a "shit" who the Republicans want!
I have my own mind!

But thank you for your reverse reverse reverse reverse psychological link.

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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:14 PM
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18. You are more then welcome.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:16 PM
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19. Did anyone else notice this sentence:
"However, the New York Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corps. empire, endorsed Obama in the New York primary."

I thought everyone was saying that Murdoch was for Hillary.

Personally, I don't think he supports either Hillary or Obama.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:17 PM
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20. and I believe every word.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 04:18 PM by stillcool47
whoops...because you never no around here anymore...:sarcasm:
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:30 PM
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30. what?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:39 PM
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34. exactly....
egads....
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ginantonic40 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:20 PM
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22. That would be
the same Bill Kristol that recently said on the radio that he considered Jeb Bush a positive addition to a Republican ticket? Bill Kristol has been proving he's a fool for way to long for anyone to take him seriously.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:20 PM
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23. I'm not basing
my vote on the speculations of Republicans and what they may or may not want. Let them do their thing and the Democrats will do theirs.

Second guessing the Republican's strategy and what they really may or may not want or whether or now they are trying to trick us is a waste of time IMHO.

I suspect that some of them think Hillary will be easier to beat and some of them think Obama will be easier to beat.

I think either of them can beat McCain.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:22 PM
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26. Republicans want Obama, Independents want Obama, Democrats
want Obama; I can't wait until Election Day!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:23 PM
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27. ME too!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:33 PM
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31. The same reason they don't want Hillary is the same reason they'd probably win if she were nominated
She's incredibly polarizing, and Obama is proving that she doesn't motivate the Dem base enough to offset the huge boon she would be for the Republican GOTV efforts.


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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:49 PM
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33. K&R for the cold hard truth
It's plenty obvious why the Republican talking heads AND the corporate media all want Obama to win, and the charades of Coulter and Limbaugh are even more obvious.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:23 PM
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37. Pretty weak for an electability argument
seems like an attempt to distract from recent news.
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:27 PM
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38. As I said the first
time this link was posted: The GOPers can't decide who they want to face. Some want Obama, some want Clinton. If this was an organized effort they would all be on the same page.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:27 PM
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39. Either Clinton or Obama will trounce McCain.
The question of which candidate the Republicans prefer is irrelevant.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:34 PM
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40. The Republicans are having fits, worrying that Clinton won't be the
nominee. They've been planning for her run for years.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:42 PM
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41. ...
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:43 PM
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42. No.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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43. Repukes want you to think they have more voters
but the fact is Democrats have more voters. And if we stick together, and GOTV, we'll beat McCain in a landslide. And win the congressional seats in the process
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:06 PM
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45. I just don't buy it.
Obama is getting people to the polls. He's pulling in the youth vote, the black vote, the independents and even fed-up conservatives. If he wins the nomination, I think the presidency is his.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:19 PM
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46. Hell, it sounds like everyone is going for BO, repugs, dems, independants,
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 09:20 PM by IsItJustMe
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