Is Hillary proposing to run the GE election and this country like she is running this campaign?

[FrenchieCat]

Cause I'm not impressed. :shrug:

It appears that she "Planned" for this election based on nothing more than presumptions of inevitability due to high name recognition and a 35 year record that can be said to be padded at best.

Having no alternative plans in case plan A doesn't pan out is not a good strategy in any endeavor.

She states that she does her homework.

She states that she's a doer.

She states that she undertands the details.

She states that she can get it "done".

She states that she knows how to surround herself with good "advisors".

She states that she will bring back competency to government.

BUT this campaign is more proof in the pudding, that Hillary is not what she was built up to be.

The person who is whipping her should not have gotten this far, if Hillary was really as competent as she says she is.

[BluegrassDem]

1. Hillary has run a disastrous campaign

Which is why should can't be trusted to run our country.

[dkf]

3. Running out of $ is not a good sign.

[FrenchieCat]

4. That's what I'm saying!

Contigency plans in any important endeavor should be a minimum requirement of wisdom.

If she didn't have a clue on this, why should we think she'll have a clue on anything else? :shrug:

After all, she started out ahead in money, name recognition, establishment support, and the media has been touting her for like before Kerry won the Dem nomination in 2004.

[tabatha]

5. Agreed.

It should be obvious to anyone that Obama has run a far superior campaign - without money from lobbyists.

[John Q. Citizen]

19. I agree. The fact Obama out-flanked her with his 54 "state" strategy tells me he understands

the power of the grass roots, and he's unleashed it in this election cycle whether a primary state or a caucus state.

He's stayed very close in most of the big states like 9% in CA, but he's blowing her out of the water in many of the other states with lopsided victories, Maine being the latest with around 70% of the vote counted he's 17% up.

And he barely beat her in Missouri and NM still is too close to call apparently. That's weird.

So his advantage has been in playing a lot broader game using the whole court instead of trying to win through intimidation and just clogging up the center lanes. His campaign is using the clock beautifully. As the campaign season seems to go on forever, Obama is pulling off nothing less than a series of stunning victories over the presumed front runner for at least the last 3 years.

You are right Frenchie, Clinton assumed super T was going to be the end of it and that she was going to win the day. Since that assumption proved false, she is now falling back to try to narrow losses in the Potomac and hope for no major shift of momentum in Ohio and Texas, something that doesn't appear all that sound to me, since we have seen her numbers falling by the way side in state after state. Her use of 5 million personal funds and now rearranging staff suggest to me that their was little contingency planning in case she didn't run away with super tuesday.

If Obama can lose within a reasonably close margin in Ohio and Texas, he should come out of this bloodbath looking good or better. Obama has certainly exploited his advantage almost to perfection in all of these beyond super tuesday to march contests. And far better than anyone would have prognosticated a week or two ago.

[FrenchieCat]

20. And what Hillary did reminds me of Bush planning for Iraq:

they both thought it would be a "cakewalk".

[Eurobabe]

2. Banish the thought

It's gonna be OBAMA, babee!! :woohoo:

[FrenchieCat]

8. Remember when we talked about this early in the primary season......?

Isn't it amazing what has happened since, 48percenter?

Obama is a man with Game! that's my new slogan!

This campaign speaks volume about both of these candidates.
The overall strategy of the Obama camp has been nothing short of brilliant.

Sure, he hasn't "Won" yet, although any other candidate would have been said to have.....but because of Clinton's some many plus at the beginning of this campaign, he's won in more than one way!

[Eurobabe]

22. i hearted you!

HVD and GOBAMA!!

[zabet]

6. Are you saying that the only reason Obama is ahead,

is because Hillary is so incompetent? Doesn't
that shine a bad light on your candidate if you
think he only is winning due to Hillary being a
bad campaign strategist?

[NightWatcher]

7. other way around. Obama is causing her to fall apart

[zabet]

10. I quote the OP....

"The person who is whipping her should not have gotten this far, if Hillary was really as competent as she says she is"

May be not what they meant but, the
wording gives the impression that the
only reason Obama is ahead is due to
Hillary's incompetence, not due to
anything Obama has done.

[FrenchieCat]

9. Nope.......but it was always Hillary's to lose.......

never Obama's to win.

[zabet]

12. That is one point we disagree on...

Yes it was always Hillary's to lose,
thanks to the media hype but, it is
also now Obama's to lose.

[TexasObserver]

11. Yes, she'll be ready to run out of money on Day One!!

[Skidmore]

13. Experienced. You forgot experienced.

And ready on day one.

[Schema Thing]

14. The good General taught me that it's not just tactics, it's strategy

that is needed. For Iraq, for Iran, and for all of the issues facing America. Obama's strategy, so far anyway, appears flawless. Hillary's? Not so much.

Of course, this is just the "strategy" of politics, so I can give Clark, a pass. He's brilliant in so many areas, but politically he's merely good, imo. But does this bode well for how Obama might lead? You bet it does. Does it say anything about how Hillary might lead? Yeah, I think probably so.

[Diane R]

15. She's had '35 years experience' running campaigns. So much for experience.

[AtomicKitten]

16. Obama's organizational skills shine.

He's got game.

[Kahuna]

17. Didn't she CHIDE Barack when he said he wasn't a hands-on manager??

She said, "Humph. I'm Miss Perfect. I am woman. Watch me roar."

[mrreowwr_kittty]

18. She fired Patti Solis-Doyle, who I think is pretty good.

It's Mark Penn she needs to get rid of.

[FrenchieCat]

21. He is pretty lousy, hey?

Oh well.....

[sandnsea]

26. That's an excellent point

She doesn't seem to have good judgment where men are concerned. That point has been made before, what with Morris, Carville, Penn and Bill.

[Egnever]

23. Telling indeed

[Orangepeel]

24. Hillary hasn't run a bad campaign. Obama's has just been better

[Cha]

25. hilary says whatever mark penn tells her

to say..that doesn't mean it's true..and, of course, she and bil would like to run our country the way they're runnin' the campaign into the ground.

[ginnyinWI]

27. having no plan "B"...sounds familiar..

Like Bush going into Iraq, maybe. So sure that his plan would be a winner....that takes a certain amount of arrogance.


Obama's running a great campaign, but without substance he wouldn't be succeeding. But he has got the substance that people are looking for--authenticity, thoughtful ideas, compassion, and resolve. She just doesn't. She tells us she has it, but it isn't believable. She hasn't got the ability to inspire the people to believe in her. She's not a natural leader.

Obama was asked today about his executive experience, and he cited running this campaign as an example. And it is fair--if you can't run a good campaign, how can you run a country.

[Egnever]

28. He has run an outstanding campaign

it leads me to believe his management of the whitehouse would be outstanding.