10/25/06, "Barack Obama sent out an email to his CT list supporting Ned Lamont earlier today"

[usregimechange]

Barack Obama Writes Emails
(Barack Obama sent out an email to his CT list supporting Ned Lamont earlier today – Tim)

Ned Lamont has waged an impressive grassroots campaign to give the people of Connecticut a choice in the November Senate election. He has a vision for his state and country, and his campaign has been about presenting that vision to Connecticut voters.

Ned Lamont and I share a commitment to bringing our troops home safely from Iraq, to achieving energy independence, to helping all our citizens realize the American dream, and to empowering the American people to reclaim their government. Ned Lamont’s campaign is about delivering on these goals in Washington.

The November 7th election is right around the corner. Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign.

http://www.nedlamont.com/downthestretch

We all watched Ned’s improbable primary victory two months ago. His campaign generated a record turnout that saw 30,000 new Democrats vote to change course at home and abroad.

Ned earned the Democratic Senate nomination through his hard work and clear message. And his victory paved the way for an entire crop of Democratic challengers to stand up and fight for the common good. Today the candidacies of Diane Farrell, Joe Courtney and Chris Murphy are integral to the Democrats’ strategy to regain the majority in the U.S. House of Representatives.

A majority of Connecticut Democrats supported Ned Lamont in the August primary. I hope they will see this impressive movement through to the end by volunteering their time with Ned in these next two weeks.

http://www.nedlamont.com/downthestretch

Sincerely,



U.S. Senator Barack Obama

http://nedlamont.com/blog/1976/barack-obama-writes-emails

[Cha]

1. Thanks, usrc! Now where's that disingenous

thread I saw earlier asking "why Obama endorsed lieman?" These posters think they're being so clever asking the question that is the opposite of what Obama actually did..or maybe they just don't know any better and should investigate before they start spamming DU.

[usregimechange]

4. Maybe they are led by someone who says anything to get elected?

[MADem]

9. In order to be disingenuous, someone has to be lying. There is no lie

in saying Obama supported Lieberman. He did. Loudly. Proudly. Even travelled to CT to lend him his "Rock Star" cachet.

When Holy Joe blew the primary, he flipped over to Lamont.

That's the truth. There's a cite at Post Eight, downthread.

Here's the link to it if it's too hard to find: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4543333&mesg_id=4543606

[H2O Man]

18. Right.

They will appear here, and try to twist this.

Nominated.

[usregimechange]

2. Odd for such a lieberman loyalist

[Tatiana]

3. Score one for the truthful limousine liberal! n/t

[usregimechange]

5. Clinton? No one mentioned her, how much did she net last year?

[abburdlen]

6. great.

now he's going to get attacked for supporting Lamont.
Why can't you people stop screwing with their attacks with these stupid facts?!

[carlotta]

7. but just a few months earlier.....

This is what Obama had to say:
"The fact of the matter is, I know some in the party have differences with Joe. I'm going to go ahead and say it," Obama told the 1,700-plus party members who gathered in a ballroom at the Connecticut Convention Center for the $175-per-head fundraiser.

"I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf," he said.

Obama received widespread attention for his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, delivered while he was still a state senator.

Lieberman became Obama's mentor when Obama was sworn into the Senate in 2005. They stayed close at Thursday night's event, too, entering the room together and working the crowd in tandem.

Despite the camaraderie between the two, the crowd was clearly more receptive to Obama's remarks than Lieberman's speech about party unity and the potential for Democratic victories at the ballot box this fall.

In fact, scattered boos greeted Lieberman when he took the podium, and he had to stop three times during his remarks to shush the crowd so he could deliver key points.

[Mass]

12. Welcome to DU, but Barbara Boxer, Chris Dodd, and the Clintons, among others, endorse him during the

primary as well.

So, what is exactly your point? Lieberman was the incumbent and still at that time a Democratic candidate. No senator endorsed Lamont in the primary. The best that was done was a non endorsement by a few senators who said they disagreed with Lieberman, but would not endorse anybody in the primary.

[MADem]

8. Oh yeah? He was FOR Lieberman before he was against him!!!

I cite, because I believe in putting the cash where the piehole is--and there is NOTHING ambiguous about THIS:

Obama rallies state Democrats, throws support behind Lieberman
By Stephanie Reitz, Associated Press Writer | March 31, 2006

HARTFORD, Conn. --U.S. Sen. Barack Obama rallied Connecticut Democrats at their annual dinner Thursday night, throwing his support behind mentor and Senate colleague Joe Lieberman.

Obama, an Illinois Democrat who is considered a rising star in the party, was the keynote speaker at the annual Jefferson Jackson Bailey Dinner.

Lieberman, Connecticut's junior senator, is under fire from some liberal Democrats for his support of the Iraq War. He was key in booking Obama, who routinely receives more than 200 speaking invitations each week.

Some at Thursday's dinner said that while they were pleased with Lieberman's success in bringing Obama to Connecticut, they still consider Lieberman uncomfortably tolerant of the Bush administration.

Obama wasted little time getting to that point, calling it the "elephant in the room" but praising Lieberman's intellect, character and qualifications.

"The fact of the matter is, I know some in the party have differences with Joe. I'm going to go ahead and say it," Obama told the 1,700-plus party members who gathered in a ballroom at the Connecticut Convention Center for the $175-per-head fundraiser.

"I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf," he said.

[usregimechange]

10. Gore once liked him as well, will you bite off your left arm now?

[MADem]

28. Hell, no. Unlike most people here, I actually GET how endorsements work. NT

[Mass]

13. Like Hillary and Bill CLinton?

[MADem]

15. The OP asserts that it was a LIE that Obama supported Lieberman.

My response is to the OP's erroneous assertion.

You want to start a thread discussing Bill or Hillary Clinton's support for the guy, go right ahead. But be sure, if YOU aren't to be considered "disingenuous" that you also include THIS LINK: http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=5319052

And don't forget THIS one, either: http://lamontblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/bill-clinton-to-support-primary-winner.html

Now, if we're going for FULL disclosure, Lamont is now supporting Obama, but you can't claim with a straight face that Clinton didn't do EXACTLY what Obama did with regard to Holy Joe--support the incumbent first, and then support the primary winner.

Well, you CAN claim it, but you'd be...disingenuous.

[Mass]

16. where does he say that it is a lie?

And all I am saying is that Hillary and Obama have the same record concerning the CT election, but that the Hillary supporters insist on blaming him for supporting Lieberman in the primary despite that.

[MADem]

23. He doesn't. I stand corrected. There's an inference, but nothing more than that.

Look, don't you put me in a category of people who are clueless about what happened in CT.

Only a fucking IDIOT would think that any endorsing Senator would endorse ANYONE other than the party's incumbent in a primary. To do otherwise is SUICIDAL. It is a small club, a hundred folks--they know each other REAL well. Incumbents almost always have an advantage, and if you back the wrong horse and the incumbent wins, you're screwed. Your life becomes miserable and you are seen as a disloyal little shit.

And only a fucking IDIOT would think that the same Senators would do anything BUT endorse the primary winner. It's "how it is done." You have to respect the voters of your party. It's the name of the game.

[Mass]

24. True, but some fucking idiots supporting Clinton are pushing the zmag article stating that

Obama supported Lieberman and not saying it was during the primary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4542366&mesg_id=4542366

[MADem]

27. Well, the response is that the Clintons did the same. No need to get all hysterical and start new

threads on idiotic bullshit. Slap it down and move on.

It demonstrates how little the particular touters--from both teams--actually know about how endorsements work. It's a massive waste of bandwidth, and if it were written on paper instead of out in cyberspace, these sorts of claims would belong on a little roll in the crapper.

[usregimechange]

14. WP: Sen. Clinton Hedges Lieberman Support, Wednesday, July 5, 2006; Page A02

ALBANY, N.Y., July 4 -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), a longtime supporter of Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, said Tuesday that she will not back the Connecticut Democrat's bid for reelection if he loses their party's primary.

"I've known Joe Lieberman for more than 30 years. I have been pleased to support him in his campaign for reelection, and hope that he is our party's nominee," the former first lady said in a statement issued by aides.

"But I want to be clear that I will support the nominee chosen by Connecticut Democrats in their primary," Clinton added. "I believe in the Democratic Party, and I believe we must honor the decisions made by Democratic primary voters."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/04/AR2006070400736.html

Let me know what you think of that.

[MADem]

17. What I think of that, and the links I provided in post fourteen, is that Obama and Clinton did the

EXACT same thing.

Support the incumbent, and when the incumbent TANKED, switch to the primary winner.

It's what most Senators do in these contests. Support their friends, and respect the electorate.

[Mass]

19. So, why do you attack Obama for that!

I have to take back the comment about nobody attacking Hillary for that. I guess some people got tired of seeing Obama attacked for that and open their own thread.

[MADem]

20. Are you on fucking drugs or do you not know the definition of ATTACK?

Where am I "attacking" Obama? I'm providing FACTUAL information, against the suggestion that Obama did what Clinton did not.

Take a chill pill.

[Mass]

22. Whao! You should take a break from DU. Take a chill pill yourself.

Either you have some serious Clinton supporters on ignore or you have a problem. This thread was NOT about Hillary, and was actually an attempt to answer to threads attacking Obama on his endorsement of Lieberman, suggesting he supported him in the general.

So, once again, where in the OP does it even name Hillary Clinton? So, your answer on post #8 is an attack of Obama without accepting the fact that Hillary did the same thing.

[MADem]

25. This whole topic is idiotic. Democrats endorse incumbent Democrats.

They don't endorse challengers. If they hate the incumbent, they simply stay out of it and wait until the primary sorts out who will be the party's candidate in the general.

Anyone who attacks Obama OR Clinton for supporting an incumbent Senator, and later supporting the primary winner, is a fucking ASS. And that goes for Obama or Clinton supporters.

It demonstrates that they don't have a clue as to how the system works. It's an indictment of their own ignorance.

[Mass]

26. In which case, we agree, both for Clinton and Obama.

[UALRBSofL]

11. Everything is becoming clear now

He endorses/supports Lamont but he supports Lieberman in other ways without creating a paper trail. Here is the link: http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html Obama just kind of startles the fence and does what's in his best interest.

[MagsDem]

21. Yeah, after he raised 350K dollars for Lieberman in the primary

When are you people going to get that Obama is not a trustworthy guy?

[johnnydrama]

29. who does Lamont support now

'nuff said