Wow! Just saw clip of Hillary Clinton on NBC news and the CONTEMPT in her voice

[calteacherguy]

shocked me.

She said, "You know my husband didn't win these caucus states like Washington, Nebraska, and Maine."

But it was the WAY she said it. The states rolled off her tongue as if she were spitting out a rotten egg. The tone of contempt was shocking, as if voters in those states are meaningless.

[fenriswolf]

1. im sure she is just sore at the lose

I'm sure she doesnt hold the vote against the states.

[WCGreen]

5. Of course she hates those people who would dare, I say dare...

go against the wishes of the all mighty, yet evil, Clinton monarchy...

It's so comforting to know we have a warm, kindly knight in shinning armour to do battle with the evil witch king...

Someone is viewing the world through obama colored glasses...

[fenriswolf]

38. actually i was being sincere

and defending Mrs Clinton. sorry if it sounded kind of snarky I did not mean to offend.

[WCGreen]

87. I'm sorry...

I thought I posted to the op...

[Yael]

How would she know if she likes them or not

It isn't as if she checked in or said hello to them or anything.

[fenriswolf]

39. i dont

but I think it would be kind of childish for her to resent "states" because of how people voted.

i do not think she is holding those states in contempt.

[mckeown1128]

48. ouch....

that kind of canor makes me... makes me... :rofl:

[rufus dog]

2. Don't do it!

As hard as it may be, please don't. Take the high road.

[calteacherguy]

7. She's not. nt

[rufus dog]

47. and you make my point!

Can't respond too much, I am saving my 1000 point for the night Obama clinches.

[hlthe2b]

3. Contempt is in the ear of the beholder.... I supported Obama in CO

but these snide attacks on Hillary Clinton by Obama supporters are getting ridiculous....

How about one post, JUST ONE that is positive as to why you support Obama. Surely you can move from attacking Hillary for just a few minutes it would take to do that?

[calteacherguy]

11. I'm serious

she sounded like she was just blowing those states and the voters decision in those states off, as if they were meaningless. Have you seen the clip?

[hlthe2b]

21. I did... I heard disappointment, not contempt.

Either candidate is going to spin a loss. That's the game...

[emilyg]

58. You are never serious - just hateful.

[shaniqua6392]

23. I have not seen one positive post from them yet.

If you find one let me know. No one can seem to stop bashing her. It is all over the media and even progressive radio. They have turned on her and she is one of our own. I used to support him after Edwards left. But I just can not any more. We should be able to support one Dem without cannibalizing another. It is sickening.

[hlthe2b]

32. It is the same posters over & over. I was very conflicted in my vote

and will absolutely support either candidate in the GE. I think there are many many DUers that feel this way. Both have strengths and weaknesses. Some here refuse to see only the strengths in their own candidate and nothing but the weaknesses in their opponent.

Count me out on that score. I see the complexity of the choice, which is why it was so hard to chose.

[beachmom]

I did a positive post. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4540360

The flame posts tend to get more visibility because ... they're flame posts. That doesn't mean there isn't positive energy in GDP.

[Kahuna]

68. I can't wait to see you jump in and chastise Hillbots when they post their

daily barrage of attacks of all types today. Today somebody said Obama and Michelle should be called, "Micrack." I guess you probably think that's a compliment though. Save us your lecture.

[hlthe2b]

85. I do... Ugliness begets more ugliness...

Understanding, respect and sensitivity, on the other hand......

Think about it...Your anger toward me is very misplaced.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. ah those little people, so unimportant. so stupid not to see the truth.

hillary's truth. It's inevitable.

[rodeodance]

51. who are those little people you are degrading?-the VOTERS?

ah those little people, so unimportant. so stupid not to see the truth.
Posted by antifaschits
hillary's truth. It's inevitable.

[MS Liberal]

6. That was not my impression.

[rodeodance]

54. op got the thread headline--suggest you start one to correct this nonsense?

[polichick]

8. I think Hillary was serious when she said she was "in it to win"...

...losing is UNTHINKABLE.

[GCP]

9. Get a grip

Please

[gateley]

10. She has got to be pretty shaken up and maybe even a little scared.

I was thinking today what it must be like to believe that you pretty much have a lock on the nomination (which was echoed by the media and conventional wisdom for a long time), and have the rug pulled out from under you again and again.

I'd probably be bitter and too. I'd be hating my rival, right about now.

And as always these days, I must make the disclaimer that I SUPPORT NEITHER CANDIDATE .

[MonkeyFunk]

12. You're hearing what you want to hear

there was no contempt in her voice.

What a lame attempt at a smear.

[Pirate Smile]

13. They did the same thing to Iowa. They do seem to hold us in contempt.

It has been bizarre.

[hayu_lol]

25. YAWN, another attempt to smear Hillary...

by the surrogates of the other candidate. Aren't you guys getting bored yet?

Over and over and so on.

If you had access to a voice analyzer, perhaps you could make a legit claim to hearing contempt...but I've seen a voice analyzer and you ain't one.

[Adelante]

14. I have to agree

I saw it on CNN and thought how diminishing to the voters of those states. Maybe she didn't intend it as it sounded, but coming from somebody who might want votes in November, it was an eyebrow raiser.

[rug]

15. And her eyebrows twittered as she said it.

[mrmx9]

20. Yes - and Maine and Washington might prove important in November!

[onehandle]

16. You should have said she was eating live puppies too.

If you're going to smear Hillary in GD P with your opinion of "the WAY she said it," you have to add some real meat.

Or provide some video.

Hillary bad. Obama good. Got it.

[Straight Shooter]

17. It's time for you to see an audiologist.

You're hearing things that aren't there.

[Freetospeak]

18. She does not know that EVERY VOTE COUNTS!

[Bucky]

19. They way she said it?

You wanted a song and dance? Losing bums you out. She's a competitor and she always competes to win.

You flounder at your heart's desire and then see how perky you act. Geeze, this isn't a vanity exercise; she's running because she believes in mission and her causes.

What the hell do you gain by being snarky? Eventually our candidate is probably going to beat her. Do you want Clinton's people to be bitter about your rotten ass attitude? Quit personalizing it. Be for Obama, not against Clinton. Better yet, be FOR the Democrats, not against half of the Democratic party.

There's only one thing worse than a sore loser... and that's being a sore winner.

[onehandle]

29. Exactly right. nt

[bettyellen]

37. thank you. i'm honestlly found it hard to vote for Obama, because of peeps like the OP

not the kind of company i'll ever keep.
ick ick ick.

[Hieronymus]

77. Same way I feel about the Hilary supporters .. turned me off her.

[bettyellen]

79. it's the immature, tit for tat behaiour of Obama's peeps that I can no longer abide...

pls do tell me what a shrill little victim i am.
:yawn:

[Hieronymus]

81. Welcome to the game, dear.

[bettyellen]

83. oh i see you don;t mean it, just playing harmless little games! wow i have even less respect

for you.
know knew that could happen!

[Cha]

22. Who knew hilary was such a

fucking divider? That's just what this country doesn't need is another one of those .."it's all about me, folks". :silly:

[Quakerfriend]

24. I did not hear any comtempt in her voice, at all. She was

simply making the point that it doesn't mean that she's out of it, as everyone seems to presume.

(And, I'm not one of her supporters. Just my take on it.)

[rodeodance]

62. thanks, i did not see it but glad for another view.

[L0oniX]

26. Where do you get those "CONTEMPT" sensor devices from? HeathKit?

:sarcasm:

[high density]

27. Well she obviously lost Maine because of all of the black people here. NM

[LittleClarkie]

28. Just like how mean Obama looked at the last debate?

I don't find these types of threads terribly helpful.

[pdxmom]

30. I can't characterize her tone, but were those her words? If so, is this map wrong?

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. Oh oh fellow Hillbots...

...he saw through the matronly mask to the inner Satan. Prepare for the blood rituals - it will be hard to restore the illusion without a super natural effort and the sacrifice of many innocents.

[Sapphocrat]

33. Wouldn't you rather discuss issues than perception of personalities? n/t

[bettyellen]

35. God help us if we aren't ignoring the issues to vote for who's "likable" right?

what an embarrassing post.

[Sapphocrat]

42. I'm trying my hardest...

...to steer discussion toward issues. For the moment, call me Cindy Lou Who. :D

[bettyellen]

78. and I applaud you for it.

:woohoo:

[kikiek]

34. Have a link so we can listen and decide for ourselves?

[guruoo]

50. No, no, that would ruin everything...

The teach can place this in your permanent record, you know.





:rofl:

[kikiek]

60. The teacher gets an F for this one. Another ridiculous post. Nothing here time to move on.

[guruoo]

72. Bet

he teaches psyc

[kikiek]

36. Have a link so we can listen and decide for ourselves? Very subjective post otherwise.

[hedgehog]

44. I think this is it here: "The Democrats state-by-state duel"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#23113240


I wouldn't say she has a tone of contempt in her voice, but to suggest that these states aren't very important and to note that Bill didn't carry them isn't exactly the way to show respect.

[UALRBSofL]

45. I saw it too and at one point I thought one of her eyes crossed

Not sure but it might have.

[Carolina]

40. I noticed it too

and felt the same way I did when Bill made the comment about Jesse Jackson winning here in SC in 1988.

In both instances, the tone and underlying insidious message was dismissive. Make Obama seem more like Jesse Jackson and thereby diminish him and toss those little pee-on state victories aside and thereby diminish those voters along with Obama's popularity among them.

I loved Bill Clinton since I first heard him speak in 1991 and staunchly defended him ever since BUT this campaign has me rethinking my blind allegiance and wondering if some of the right-wing mud didn't have a morsel of truth of in it.

[FyurFly]

41. She is coming unraveled!

GO Obama!

[Carolina]

52. exactly

if she were merely disappointed that she lost those states -- as some of her supporters suggest upthread -- then she could have said simply: we're disappointed in the results but we believe in our message and will move forward.

Instead she got snarky and basically said: Well, my husband lost those states too
and in so doing, implied that they didn't/don't make any difference...

And she did so in that same tone with which she said (so long ago but so well remembered): Well, I guess I could've stayed home and baked cookies...

I was cooking dinner with the TV on in the background and the remark made me stop cold and look up at the screen in disbelief. I'm sure it went over like a lead balloon to those listening in Louisiana, Washington, Nebraska and Maine!

[Name removed]

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[guruoo]

43. What exactly is it that you teach? n/t

[hedgehog]

46. "You know my husband didn't win these caucus states like Washington, Nebraska, and Maine."

Why is Hillary comparing herself to Bill?

[kikiek]

55. Because he went on to win the nomination? Just happens to have been her husband.

[pdxmom]

65. No kidding! Cause he did win those states. N/T

[Diane R]

49. Thank you for posting this. As a Washingtonian, I was offended by her scorn, too.

[rodeodance]

61. I know your posts. The clinton name is mentioned and hate comes forth!!

[JVS]

53. She needs to behave in a more gracious manner.

[rodeodance]

56. be honest--Did you hear the clip?

[SaveOurDemocracy]

70. You, rodeodance, are a trooper.

I really admire your passion, and dedication, to your chosen candidate. I wandered into the HRC support forum last night and saw how you've doggedly posted information and items of interest, in spite of very little response from other HRC supporters.


Maybe, instead of fighting all the non-stop Hillary-hate in GDP, HRC supporters should stop in there for real discussion of the issues.


Anyway, if I was wearing a hat ... I'd take it off to you.

[rodeodance]

74. hey thanks, and glad you are on board. I thought so too but ......Keep strong:-)

[SaveOurDemocracy]

57. OK ... just watched the clip ... where was the contempt?

Un-fknin-real!! People so blinded by their OWN contempt and predjudice they bend, twist, and squeeze everything to fit it into thier she-devil mold.

Get. Help. Now.

[rodeodance]

67. there have so many threads with these glaring headlights lately. I used to

think it would fade--and obama is pulling even and it is getting worse. I shake my head.

[saracat]

59. But Obama's scorn for Baby Boomer's and John Edwards stance on poverty doesn't bother you at all doe...

it? Talk about a double standard. Not a peep is heard about how the contempt implied when both Barack and Michelle separately state that they would have to "think about voting for the nominee if it wasn't Obama" What about Obama's statements that Hillary's voters would vote for him but that his voters wouldn't vote for her if she were the nominee?

[cbayer]

63. And what exactly is the point of this post? Really, I want to know. nt.

[MagsDem]

66. The voters in those states don't matter

That's why they have caucuses instead of primaries. The caucus system is specifically designed so that the average joe doesn't get a voice. Which explains to me why those are Obama's targets and why he has spent a record amount on "campaign salaries" that are buried in temp agencies. That is exactly how rethugs have bought caucus wins for decades.

[rodeodance]

71. I have to admit that i have not given caucuses much thought at all before

the last few months--except nievly to assume they were good.
But having read of the problems and antedotal evidence--i really have to say now that there are serious problems with them.
best.
rd

[hill08]

69. thank god,

public at large doesn't watch so much political TV and examine clips under a microscope like you are

[rodeodance]

73. Another thread giving Obamacicda crickets to come out and agree with an OP sliming Clinton!!

[mtnsnake]

75. WTF are you talking about?? She sounded gracious. Clean out the wax, dude

[AJH032]

76. yeah, and I'm sure you're a completely unbiased listener, right?

:eyes:

[McCamy Taylor]

80. GE picks clips of Hillary looking like a B word. CNN shows clips of McCain looking O-L-D.

It is because GE/NBC is stumping for the Republicans and CNN is stumping for the Democrats.

Do not let the propaganda writers of the TV news influence you.

[apocalypsehow]

82. I saw that too, earlier. I think her tone reflects her mentality, which boils down to contempt

for those who would dare to interrupt her coronation. It was quite striking.

[jackson_dem]

84. This is utter BS. I saw the clip and she was talking like she always does

Where is the resident DU hypocrite (not the one who whines about things she does. I am talking about the school marm) in this thread?

[TexasObserver]

86. Hillary thinks she has become Royalty. Queen Hillary I, ruling by divine right

[DemGa]

88. Wow a Hillary hate thread based on nothing....yawn...nt

[caligirl]

89. she also said the caucuses don't represent the electorate. thought it was a low point for her, again

[Az_lefty]

90. Hillary is an extremely vindictive person...

a side that most people either don't notice or excuse away.

[BenDavid]

91. Democrats had this election won, until obama decided to save us

[yardwork]

92. If you think that this helps your candidate....you're wrong.