Maverick McCain 26 years in Congress v. Obama 2

[candice]

Why does the so-called "most important job" in the world not require experience?

Is Obama bored with learning the ropes in the Senate? Wouldn't he have more to offer us if he weren't so eager to move on to the next job?

Will the media give him a free ride when he encounters the Maverick who has 26 year in Congress to his 2?

People want "change" and change is inevitable. Even Nixon ran as a candidate who promised to end the war in Viet Nam.

--One never steps in the same stream twice. Heraclitus (approximately 500 B.C.)

[hill08]

1. Obama is so impatient

that he risks ruining any chances for another viable black candidate for President in the near future.

[anigbrowl]

2. Ah, the old...

'you'll mess it up for everyone else!!!' argument. Well, look at it this way, by letting him win now it creates a real opportunity for a woman candidate in 2012. Why do you want to screw that up so much?! It's so selfish!

[democrat in Tallahassee]

3. That "maverick" is a war-monger. I think we DO need new ideas

and fresh faces in Washington; It's time to pass the torch to the next generation; if you want more of Bush then vote for McCain. The decision is that simple.

[rpannier]

4. He can run as an "outsider" of sorts

I mean, look at the number of people who hate professional politicians.

One of the biggest complaints about Congress is that they've lost touch with 'real people' -- although this is true of the media as well.
It can turn out to be a plus in the end.

Exdample: When was the last time a Senator beat a Governor in the race for the White House?
How many men have gone from being governor to being president? Quite a few.
The last three sitting presidents that lost in their race for re-election all lost to men whose previous job had been governor:
Carter-Ford, Reagan-Carter and Clinton-Bush.
Gore who was VP also lost to a governor.

Many people distrust Washington DC career politicians

[jackson_dem]

22. Obama is a career politician and can't get away with pretending he isn't in the general

[cottonseed]

26. He's a career politician with no political experience?

You guys can't have it both ways.

[jackson_dem]

27. No experience that qualifies him for the presidency

Being on the city council for three decades is a career in politics but it doesn't qualify one to be president.

[cottonseed]

28. He was elected city council at age 8?

That's actually phenomenal and more than a reason to be elected president.

[Cha]

5. Why are you so fucking disingenous, candice?

That's what you should pondering instead of pushing fucking mccain on us.

[griffi94]

jmho

the free ride from the media will stop as soon as he gets the nomination.
then the differences in their level of experience will be broadcast 24/7 till the day before the election....jmo again but should obama get the nomination and lose in nov...he won't get this close again....should he win in nov...i'm expecting another carter like flameout and he'll be a 1 termer.
sorry to piss on any obama supporters parade....i just don't think he's ready....and no amount of slogans will change that.

[high density]

6. Clinton hasn't been in the senate for much longer

So I think the "experience" thing isn't going to fly here, unless you're planning on supporting McCain.

[jefferson_dem]

7. Whaaaaaaaaa... It's her turn! ...Whaaaaaaaa...

He does have "experience," silly. Just not as much "experience" stewing in the washington sewage as Hillary or McCain. That, to me, is a beautiful thing.

[griffi94]

10. well that's cool

or it would be if you were the only one voting....i'm starting to get a bit nervous because i see people here dismissing mccain out of hand....much like they did to shrup back in 2000...he could never win...he was too dumb......and besides gore wasn't any better....vote nader....like i posted in another thread...i'll bet a lot of those nader supporters wish they had that vote back

[Eric J in MN]

8. Obama will have been a Senator for 4 years by January 2009. NT

NT

[Danger Mouse]

9. It won't be hard to puncture the 'Maverick' bubble.

The MSM pimps that sad little meme like nobody's business, but once we put out attack ads, all people will see on their tv screens is this:

Which pretty much sums up how much of a 'maverick' McCain was under Bush.

[sniffa]

11. I'm trying hard to figure out what you're saying besides, "I HATE OBAMA!"

So I guess that's probably what you mean.

[earthlover]

12. Obama beats McCain....McCain beats Hillary

Why?

Well, polls indicate independents will vote for Obama. But if hillay is the nominee, indepedents will vote for MCCain.

Speaking of experience....McCain would be able to ENJOY using his vastly superior experience as a campaign theme against Hillary...he would be able to use her own words against her! Not so much with obama, who obviously knows how to win against a candidate who touts her own experience!

The saddest thing about a Hillary-McCain matchup is that Hillary could not use the Iraq invasion as an issue against McCain. She would just come off as someone who patterned her views on Iraq to fit the political winds.

A vote for hillary in the primaries is a vote for McCain as president.

Hillary. Can't. Beat. McCain.

[Unbowed]

13. McCain belongs to the politics of Dinos: old, white men running the world.

Being a lawmaker does not necessarily equate with leadership. Senate experience can actually be a liability in a Presidential candidate because of the mindset that comes from too many years in Congress. That's McCain's greatest weakness: his Senate experience is the sum total of his entire resume, while the same cannot be said for either Clinton or Obama. There is also the combination of experience and judgment. It doesn't matter how long you have been doing something if you have been doing it wrong.

McCain could have a hundred years experience as a Senator and it still wouldn't give him the sense to know that lying a country to war and keeping them their out of a sense of false pride is wrong.

McCain sees only enemies when he looks abroad. He only knows other countries from the perspective of "the enemy" which he learned a long, time ago. It's sad. It's wrong. He's wrong. That isn't experience, it's a rut.

[Capn Sunshine]

14. So Congressional experience is important to you?

Wow, that's fucking brilliant.

I guess decades of experience with state legislatures is meaningless. I guess Civil rights attorney experience counts for nothing. I guess anti poverty work is pointless.

Yeah, Obama should have more experience like MCCain, because the longer you're in congress the better you know how to be president. :crazy:

Electroshock going well, is it?

[Orangepeel]

15. Why is 26 years in congress a GOOD thing?

McCain is part of the problem. McCain is status quo. McCain is old and tired and more of the same.

Why would people vote for that?

[griffi94]

20. hahahaha

because plenty of people get a bit worried about change for the sake of change....and i'll ask again...how the hell did bush ever get elected.......so i don't think that i would assume that a majority of the voters will vote for change just because you and everyone you know would....plenty of people won't vote for a liberal....or a yankee....or anbody different from themselves

[Orangepeel]

23. bush got elected because people thought they would like to have a beer with him

and, because he wasn't the incumbent party. Even though things were going fine, they wanted a change. Do you think bush got elected because people thought he had more experience than Al Gore? :silly:

[Orangepeel]

24. ...

[LyndaG]

16. 26 Years

McCain's been in Congress 26 years and claims he needs to be "educated" about the economy??!! What has HE been doing all those years, besides collecting a nice paycheck? Is that the sort of "experience" people want?

[boppers]

17. Maverick McCain 0 years as President v. Obama 0

I think that might even be a different branch of government!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

18. Dupe.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

19. Obama's held office for about a decade.

And Dick Cheney has 35 years of experience, last time I checked.

[jackson_dem]

25. The Cheney argument makes no sense

One guy with experience messed up so suddenly experience doesn't matter? Can I apply to be CEO of a company tomorrow and tell them experience doesn't matter? Cheney did what he did precisely because Bush was inexperienced. If Bush had experience Cheney would be neutralized like he was under Bush 41.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

29. I didn't say it didn't matter.

I'm saying it doesn't always guarantee success.

Besides, the OP was flawed to begin with, considering Obama has actually had a good deal of legislative experience.

[tammywammy]

21. I would think that being in Congress for 26 years, McCain would have

at least learned how the economy works. :eyes: I don't think being in office that long is necessarily a good thing.

He's not bored with the Senate, Obama understands that America is ready for him, his message and what he believes in.