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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:43 PM
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For proof Obama can manage, look at his campaign
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/02/07/2008-02-07_for_proof_obama_can_manage_look_at_his_c.html

For proof Obama can manage, look at his campaign

By ANDREW SULLIVAN

Thursday, February 7th 2008, 4:00 AM

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Perhaps the most telling critique leveled by Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign against Sen. Barack Obama, to my mind, is that he lacks executive experience. Clinton considers this a potent contrast. She misses no opportunity to remind us that she is the roll-up-her-sleeves, detail-oriented manager, while he's the academic orator with the messy desk (Of course, as far as executive experience goes, Clinton's record is nearly as slight as Obama's, if you don't count the First Lady period, when she insists her husband was the President.)

I understand how effective the critique can be, particularly if Obama should make it into a general election. Despite all their failures, Republicans miraculously still manage to project some can-do competence to many voters.

And so, last year, I asked Obama directly why a voter should back someone who has never run anything bigger than a legislative office. He responded by pointing to his nascent campaign. He observed that he was up against the full Clinton establishment, all the chits she and her husband had acquired over the years, and the apparatus they had constructed within the party. He had to build a national campaign from scratch, raise money, staff an extremely complex electoral map, and make key decisions on spending and travel. He asked me to judge his executive skills by observing how he was managing a campaign.

By that standard, who isn't impressed? A first-term senator - a black urban liberal - raised more money, and continues to raise much more money, than Sen. Clinton. More to the point, the money he has raised has not come from the well-connected fat cats who do things like donate to the Clinton library. His base is much wider, broader and Internet-based than hers. It has many more small donors.

Now look at the strategy he laid out last year, as he explained it to me and others. Iowa was the key. If he didn't win Iowa, it was over. But if he could win Iowa, he would prove the principle that a black man could transcend the racial issue, helping in New Hampshire, and then also helping him peel off what was then majority black support for the Clintons in South Carolina.

Then his strategy was meticulous organization - and you saw that in Iowa, as well as Tuesday's caucus states. Everything he told me has been followed through. And the attention to detail - from the Alaska caucus to the Nevada cooks - has been striking.

Now consider the psychological and emotional challenges of this campaign. It has been brutal. It has included many highly emotional moments - and occasions when racism and sexism and all sorts of hot-button issues have emerged. Then there was the extraordinary spectacle of a former President and spouse bringing the full weight of the Democratic establishment and the full prestige of two terms in the White House to dismiss some of Obama's arguments as a "fairy tale" and dismiss him as another Jesse Jackson.

How did the candidates deal with this? The vastly more experienced and nerves-of-steel Clinton clearly went through some wild mood swings. Obama gave an appearance at least of preternatural coolness under fire, a steady message that others came to mimic, and a level of oratory that still stuns this longtime debater.

In the middle of this very hot zone, he exhibited, and continues to exhibit, a coolness and steeliness that is a mark of presidential timber. He played tough - but he didn't play nasty. Keeping the high road in a contest like this, without ever playing the race card or the victim card, is an achievement.

Building a movement on top of that is more impressive still. So far, he has combined Mitt Romney's money with Clinton's organizational skills and Ron Paul's grass-roots enthusiasm.

No other campaign has brought so many dimensions into play.

And, lest we forget: He won Missouri.

Sullivan is author of the book "The Conservative Soul." A version of this Op-Ed ran on his blog, andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:44 PM
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1. Not hiring Mark Penn = +1
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:38 AM
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17. Plus Triple "Did Not Hire Terry McAuliffe" Bonus: Net +7
;-)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:40 AM
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30. That vulture is still around?
No wonder she's on a losing streak.

How long before anyone in that circle finally sees how much of a useless ass he is?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:47 PM
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2. He's right. Hillary's claim that she is experienced and ready to run government is disproved
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:58 PM
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6. It is amazingly disproved now that we know
she did not know her campaign was running out of money.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:16 AM
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11. she picked people not up to the job, she didn't manage them, they feared telling her the bad news
That is a recipe for disaster.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:24 AM
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13. And she wants us to trust her with our economy during a recession
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:41 AM
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And I don't remember "Mark Penn" as being on the list of staffers willing to go without payment...
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 12:43 AM by VolcanoJen
... during her financial crunch after Super Tuesday.

Patti Solis-Doyle stepped up. Where is she now?

The more I look at this, the more I feel as though Mark Penn & Co. are taking the Clintons for a political cash cow, and it really should upset all of us.

Edit: Oh, and Tex? Here's a heart from me to you, since we're March 4th Primary Partners. :loveya:

Ohio-Texas Alliance For Obama!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:46 AM
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22. Cool!! Thanks!! And yeah, Penn is mining the money.
When the cash cow goes dry, suddenly THEN everyone starts looking to see where the money.

From the mid 1980s song by Robert Palmer, "Simply Irresistable": "there's no tellin' where the money went!"
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:49 PM
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3. And here's a couple of things that are remarkable about his campaign
1) They obviously have lots of superstar campaign managers/geeks/strategists and you see them from time to time but they work very hard to keep their candidate in front, not themselves.

2) There are no leaks from this campaign, I mean none at all unless it is a designed move.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:55 AM
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27. his website is impressive, too. State of the art. n/t
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:50 PM
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4. From a republican no less.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 AM
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14. Because hes a republican (if he even is) that means he can't write about how a campaign
is managed?

Damn.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:51 PM
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5. I am blown away by Obama's leadership skills
Building an organization like his takes more than money, or knowing the right people. It takes true leadership. I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about his ability to lead this country.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:03 AM
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7. Great post. His leadership skills are convincing so many people he's
the right candidate. I have no qualms about Senator Obama either. :thumbsup:
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:40 AM
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19. I am blown away by the followership skills of some of his fans
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:51 AM
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25. LOL!
:evilgrin:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:10 AM
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8. If they way the Obamarites treat Hillary supporters on DU
are a clue of his leadership, and he gets the Democratic nomination.........well, then, he will losse the General Election because hate and abuse it all they really pack.

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UndergroundEcoHound Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:27 AM
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15. come on now...
The same can be said for a number of supporters of almost any candidate. The vitriol spewed on here has wavered back and forth from sexism to racism to elitism and so many other -isms, but no matter which of these two candidates emerges we will be better off for at least the next four years after they place a beating on Sen. McCain. Here's a little something extra to lighten the mood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs&eurl=http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:49 AM
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24. I am wild about that nurse joke, never saw that one before, (inactive nurse).
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 AM
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28. Nursing is all about working with nothing now a days.
Patient teaching is only on paper...........never really have time to deliver real care anymore. The tune reflects how many of us feel "challenged" or threatened actually by the business of it all.

Tomorrow is another day. Glad to see nurses on the DU Board and active in the election process. I do nursing legislation in Ohio as an ONA Liaison. O8) :hi: :patriot: :loveya:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:12 AM
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9. Obama's campaign is probably the smartest one I've ever seen. n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:37 AM
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16. True, his campaign is the best ever.........
I just know nothing of what the man can do as a leader. He has never lead.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:41 AM
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20. I don't want to bump heads with you over this.
It's not important enough. :hug:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:54 AM
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29. I love you too.
Wejust disagree today and that's okay.:banghead: :pals: :hug: :loveya:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:13 AM
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10. I Don't Care Very Much For Andrew Sullivan...
But he does make some very valid points.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:22 AM
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12. Not hiring Joe Trippi +2
Good article. Bookmarking.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:39 AM
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18. Bush's campaign proves it says more about the followers than the management of the "leader"
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:43 AM
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21. She's still on the process of reloading after Super Tuesday, and he's rolling
Ready to Lead on Day, Take 2. This time it's changier.

Someone's getting outplayed, and it ain't the newbie.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:47 AM
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23. Praise from Andrew Sullivan?
You realize don't you, that Dems don't like Sullivan?

Quoting him here certainly isn't going to win Obama any points.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 AM
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26. All are great points
I honestly never expected Obama to make it this far. My dad had said several months ago that he thought it would be close (though he said Edwards would do well too). My mom and I were dismissive. I figured Hillary was the establishment choice and she'd walk away with the nomination and that Obama would end fizzling out like the Dean campaign (he too excited people and built a great fundraising base but could not get people to come out for him in the end). Otherwise, I was worried that Obama would simply rely too heavily on younger voters who aren't particularly reliable as evident by the '04 results.

He's accomplished something truly extraordinary. He's gone against the most successful Democratic president in some fifty years and had to convince the entire party establishment that he's up to it. He understood his strengths better than anyone and capitalized on it (small group settings and stump speeches). Pretty amazing.
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