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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:12 AM
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If HRC wins I will not vote for her
I will vote against John McCain and the party of hate. I think we could do with a little reminder of what we're fighting against.

Hate for immigrants
Hate for other religions/atheism.
Hate for science.
Hate for those less fortunate.
Hate for peace.
Hate for global cooperation.
Hate for the environment.
Hate for idealism.
Hate for intellectualism.
Hate for labor.
Hate for the constitution.
Hate for public works.
Hate for homosexuals.
Hate for women.
Hate for other races.


I could go on, but suffice it to say that Republicanism has come to stand for the belief that the worst in all of us is the best that any of us can do. The belief that Greed, Xenophobia, Bigotry, Ignorance, Violence, Malice, and Blind Faith are the best that we can achieve as a species. This isn't as often overtly stated so much as subtly pounded into the heads of half of the country by a conniving investor class that only remains in power so long as we are distracted from who our real enemies are.

The strategy is as old as history itself: Divide and Conquer!

The vast majority of working Republicans are not the enemy! They are by and large the unwitting pawns of an Oligarchy who plays the age old trick of "Look there, they are the cause of your troubles. We will protect you from them if you only give us more of your rights, your money, your free thought, your souls." They cast the world in black and white dichotomies, and cry "You're either with us or against us!".

As this sort of hateful divisive tactic is as old as history, so is its antithesis: expose the lies for what they are. Raise the rhetoric and call people to a common cause. Slowly disprove the lies for the divisive distractions that they are. Remind people that we all face the same dangers. Remind them that we are strongest when we stand together to lift each other up. Remind them that there are battles as old as the stones that have to be won. Remind them that injustice to one is injustice to all, that slavery to one is slavery to all, that hatred corrupts us all, that fear is to be feared in its own right, that greed is murder, that a dead heart begets death.

I could go on with this clumsiness, but suffice to say that the future demands a leader who calls us to be better than our fear and our hatred.

Further I know that Obama isn't perfect, and what's more I know that no great leader in history was ever perfect. But I believe with all of my heart that ALL people decide with emotion and justify their choices with rationale. This may well be the darkest hour in American history, and is likely the darkest hour in human history.

We don't need a perfect leader, and truly there isn't one to be found. What we desperately need is a leader who reminds us that though we will never be perfect, and though there will always be greed, and hatred, and fear, and indeed no perfect solutions to our problems, no perfect victories - We have to try!

The great people in history were neither perfect nor generally accountants (no offense to accountants). And further what they did, they never did alone. But what 90% of these great individuals shared was the ability to speak to the heart and soul of all.

What lasts after we are gone after all? Mostly words and the words we speak and write that give rise to action. The Constitution and the Declaration are after all just words! But they are more than that. They are collections of words that compel us to believe in the nobility of the human spirit, and to then act on that belief.

Give me your high handed rhetoric, make my soul sing, and let us all act as though we are better than our baser instincts! Don't believe in Obama, but you have already lost if you do not believe in our ability to every once in a generation rise above our baser instincts. Though there are many good reasons to support Obama, perhaps above all is his ability to make people believe again that we can be better than we are.

"A person will worship something, have no doubt about that. We may think our tribute is paid in secret in the dark recesses of our hearts, but it will out. That which dominates our imaginations and our thoughts will determine our lives, and our character. Therefore, it behooves us to be careful what we worship, for what we are worshipping we are becoming."

- Ralph Waldo Emerson

But finally, I do believe that HRC is not so bad as Democrats go. And after all she IS a Democrat. The hour of history is far too late to allow another complete hate monger into the whitehouse. It will be the death of us. No matter what happens PLEASE vote in the GE.

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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:24 AM
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1. How will you cast your vote against McCain?
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 AM
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2. By voting for the Democratic Candidate
Whoever the hell that is!
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:30 AM
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6. Thanks for clarifying
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:32 AM
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Whatever trips your trigger. I will vote in my primary for Hillary and against Obama. So I guess I
know where you are coming from. My heart will always be with Edwards!
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 AM
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19. You think Edwards will vote for Hillary???
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 AM
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3. Good post.
Eye on the ball!

:applause:
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:28 AM
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4. This is not going to be an issue...
Because Clinton is not going to win the nomination! ;)
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:32 AM
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9. Of course it is an issue
Because there are Clinton supporters here at DU who have also said they would not vote for Obama if he gets the nomination.

I believe this post was intended for supporters of both candidates.
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:29 AM
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5. Agree 100%
Voting for either Democratic candidate is voting against McCain, et al.
It's hard to fathom how anyone on this board can even contemplate not voting for either Democratic candidate come November. This country can't stand another 4 or 8 years of Republican tyranny. Both Clinton and Obama are a far greater choice. Not voting is akin to giving up and giving in to these true "evildoers" I'm an Edwards supporter who is now supporting Clinton. If Obama wins the nomination he will get my vote come November.


It bears repeating:
Voting for either Democratic candidate is voting against McCain, et al.
Thank you for posting this.

:patriot:
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:31 AM
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7. Great post

Probably one of the best since the primary season started. I will vote for who ever is the dem nominee, we have to stop McCain, our country depends on it.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:32 AM
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8. my last K & R for tonight. Great post. n/t
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:34 AM
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10. ignore this post.
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 12:35 AM by alittlelark
:P
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:36 AM
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11. Are you sure you understood the post? The post is positive.
You're the one being negative.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:26 AM
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20. That's why I deleted it w/in 30 seconds of posting it....
I'm having a fine Pinot this evening, and there is not much left in the bottle.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:53 AM
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21. We are all under a bit of stress lately, aren't we?
But it's chocolate, not Pinot, for me.

:hi:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:36 AM
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12. Insane McCain is my Senator, I'm sorry to say.
And as an Obama supporter, much as I deplore the Clinton's campaign tactics, and as many times as I've sworn up and down I won't give her a dime or a drop of volunteer sweat while holding my nose to vote for her, if she got the nomination my built-in forgetter will probably kick in and I'll be pounding the pavement for her in 115 degree heat come this summer.

Hillary Clinton is not my idea of a perfect Democratic candidate, by a longshot. But John McCain is batshit crazy. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't do everything in my power to make sure he doesn't ever get near the White House.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:37 AM
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13. Another vote for Cynthia.
She's really cleaning up tonight! :thumbsup:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:43 AM
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15. The writer is clearly advocating for a vote for HRC, if she's the nominee.
See the last paragraph if you're not clear.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:40 AM
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14. Great post! But I'm afraid the beginning is a little too subtle
for some of the people here.

I hope everyone reads to the end. Is it too late to do something to highlight the end, please?

"But finally, I do believe that HRC is not so bad as Democrats go. And after all she IS a Democrat . . . No matter what happens PLEASE vote in the GE."

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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:57 AM
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16. Thank you
And thank you all for the recs and kind words.

It's my opinion that those who don't read to the bottom of posts but speak anyways should let themselves be known ;)
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:11 AM
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17. This post rocks!

Nicely said!

:donut:


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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:16 AM
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18. Well Said!

Nicely done. K & R.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:05 AM
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22. I'll do the same if Obama wins. /nt
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