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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:47 AM
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Obama truly IS a cult of personality
Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
Ive been everything you want to be
Im the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
Im the smiling face on your t.v.
Im the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
Im the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your gods name
Im every person you need to be
Im the cult of personality
Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
Ive been everything you want to be
Im the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
Im the smiling face on your t.v.
Im the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
Im the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your gods name
Im every person you need to be
Im the cult of personality
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:48 AM
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1. Let it go, Mags
let it go.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:03 AM
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18. Obama is all glitter that does not glow. He is phony.
Can not trust him.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:10 AM
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23. I Agree With You And Mags
All flash, no substance, a totally canned product. I can only hope the glow will wear off before we're stuck with a feel-good but ineffectual glamor boy, or worse, he demonstrates that hasn't the backbone to stand up to the GOP. I really think he's in way over his head.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:18 AM
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26. Indeed he is.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:48 AM
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2. Great song by 'Living Color;' thanks for posting it.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:22 AM
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46. Like, you know, Hillary ...
isn't a "cult of personality" ???

Edwards wasn't a "cult of personality" ...

McCain or Huck aren't "cult of personality" ...

PAUL or Kucinich aren't "cult of personality" ...

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:49 AM
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3. You're truly obsessed.
There's still a little foam on your mouth. :freak:
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 AM
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7. LOL, shes sounding like a crazed beast.
Its laughable and alittle sad. Its sad when democrats can be worse than repugs.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 AM
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12. LOL - you're supporting a guy that brags that rethugs like him
Or haven't you noticed that?
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:02 AM
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15. at least people like him
:shrug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:02 AM
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17. That's the point!
You're supposed to expand your majority. The point of politics isn't to lose so you get nothing done, and then lose some more.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:30 AM
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33. Why is that a bad thing?
You can't win a presidential election with just the most hardcore members of your party voting for you. You need to be able to win the votes of independents and people from other parties. That is not going to happen with Clinton.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:52 AM
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9. I am -- I'm watching the dem party fall for the biggest sham
in my life time. It's like watching us go the same route the rethugs went with Bush. And it defies my life time conviction that dem party voters would never be so stupid as to fall for the same crap that brought us Bush.

You're voting for a guy who brags that rethugs like him. What else do you really need to know?
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:00 AM
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13. I guess I've lived longer. We have super delegates 'cause we've
been here, done this. I understand the yelping ... but for anyone who didn't know there were supers before this election cycle - I heard a great line on Comedy Central presents:

"Twenty somethings are good at one thing: looking better than thirty somethings. So, if you're a twenty something ... strike a pose and shut up!"
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:04 AM
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20. That's A Great Quote n/t
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:00 AM
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14. OMG, Does He Know?
Does he know why rethugs are saying they like him? Half are saying they know they can beat him. The other half are saying, well, maybe McCain won't beat him, but they can get rid of him more easily after four years (than Hillary).
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:04 AM
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22. Dude, you've got to be kidding. Every repug out there wants Hillary to be the nom
Have you seen Pat Buchanan kissing her ass lately? He even admitted he wanted her to be the presidenet so she can lose congress after 2 years. Hes foaming at the mouth hoping shes the nominee, every other repug has said so as well. Duh!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:04 AM
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21. We want pukes to like him.
The more republicans he sucks in, the bigger he wins. The more we get done in congress. That's the actual point. And let's not get started with what I think of who you support (unelectable DINO that will never actually be president).
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:16 AM
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36. You are either stupid or naive he will not win with republican voters, got it, never! nt
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:48 AM
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44. THAT is totally stupid or navie. He most certainly will -
he's already doing it. I can't believe how many republicans I know crossed over to vote for him in Georgia and will do the same during the GE. I think this is over folks.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:20 AM
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27. We are being played, big time!
:spank:
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:11 AM
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35. you don't think very clearly
Bush got 51% of the vote in 2004. Now somewhere around 33% approve of the job he's doing.

So who are those 18%? You think those 18% are all hard core George Bush, Karl Rove Republicans?

You don't want anybody who ever voted Republican to change their mind and become a Democrat?

What about John Dean. He worked for Richard Nixon? Do we hate him because he once was lost, but now he's found?

What about Bruce Fein? He is/was a Republican. He wants W impeached.

Other American's aren't the enemy. Why would you disregard every voter who ever voted Republican.

Geez, Hillary Clinton was a Republican. You didn't want her to be convinced to become a Democrat?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:47 AM
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43. lol, Sarah Heartburn
simplistic, melodramatic and no argument- nothing but baseless speculation and hate.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:49 AM
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4. Now that song is stuck in my head. nt
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 AM
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5. "i tell you one and one makes three"
yup

:scared:
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 AM
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6. Cult
Any lyric that equates Ghandi with Mussolini doesn't strike me as profound.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 AM
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10. Then you don't understand the term Cult of personality
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 AM
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11. It means the flip side....good/evil....perspectives....
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:08 AM by jus_the_facts
:think:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 AM
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8. It's over man. Meme tried and failed.
Sorry... time to come up with something else.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:02 AM
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16. If Only It Were Just That n/t
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:03 AM
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19. The OP is correct...nt
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:10 AM
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24. Somebody please put this Hillbot out to pasture. n/t
n/t
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:11 AM
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25. The reason you are hearing from the Obamatons and not the
Clinton supporters is that the Obamatons are like born agains, hysterical, loud, evangelical and self-righteous.
Clinton supporters are logical, intellectual, results oriented and operate from a mind place.

What really scares me is when obama loses the nomination are some of these younger folks with unstable minds going to be able to take his loss and not do something irrational? Now that is what concerns me the most.....
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:22 AM
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28. "Obamatons"?
Still calling people names because they support a candidate other than your own?

Get a life!:crazy:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:25 AM
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31. Your are insulting others...
How do you know that they have unstable minds?
Thousands and thousands of people have voted for Obama - they are all nuts?

You do know what the definition of insanity is?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:23 AM
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29. From your posts, you have a cult of hatred.
You are seeing only what you want to see, and much of it is incorrect.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:29 AM
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38. Geezus, I guess so
I couldn't post as much hate in one day as this person has without blowing a giant aneurysm in my head. At least a dozen threads all dripping with pure toxic hatred. That shit just isn't healthy :evilfrown:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 AM
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30. I only see the politics of hate in your eyes......
cause that is all that is there.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 AM
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32. Everyone else has already left stage IV
Stage I When you do not have the best position on the war - prevaricate

Stage II When you do not have the clear voice of leadership - triangulate

Stage III When you do not have the momentum - trivialize the election just lost

Stage IV When you do not have anywhere to go - instigate a smear on the supporters as unthinking cultists

Stage V When the supporters embrace the slur and turn it around - start backing up the dump truck and release a load
against the leader who has sparked a fire across the country.

Stage VI When this desperate tactic is reviled - step aside as the great locomotive of history barrels by you and you turn to watch history pass you by.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:31 AM
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34. You need to get away from the computer for awhile. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:26 AM
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37. Topic subject Obama's first coming

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Obama's first coming
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4540643#4540643
4540643, Obama's first coming
Posted by rodeodance on Mon Feb-11-08 04:55 PM




I think this Oz author raises some valid questions that we should all critically think about.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23182456-28737,00.html

Obama's first coming

Washington correspondent Geoff Elliott | February 09, 2008
IT was early 1994 when Nelson Mandela gave a speech in a slum outside Cape Town and spoke in grand terms of a new beginning and how when he was elected president every household would have a washing machine.

People took him literally. A few months later he became South Africa's first black president. That's when clerks in department stores in Cape Town had to turn people away demanding their free washer and dryer.
.......
How does a cult figure, in the eyes of some something akin to a messiah, make the transition to a political frontrunner - president even - where disappointment will soon crush what seemed to be a journey to a promised land?
Looking into the faces of a more than 16,000-strong crowd in a basketball stadium in Hartford, Connecticut this week, the Mandela magic I'd seen before was there too. Black and white, and the youth; they appeared in a state close to rapture watching Obama speak. Here and there one could see women crying and the some men wiping away tears too.
.......
In the US today there are echoes of that Rainbow Revolution. Through the media and on the streets people are getting a bit giddy over Obama. In this man they are projecting a new course - one that he says he will lead - where the US buries the culture wars, charts a new course in bipartisan politics and heralds a new dawn for America. ......
........
And therein lays the danger for Obama. The Obama shuttle has made it into orbit but at some point he's going to have to land this thing back on Earth.
.........
But the danger remains for Obama in managing the cult-like fervour. Obviously, he's no messiah and lofty expectations of his supporters is something that Obama is also acutely aware of. In stockmarket parlance, Obama's share price is soaring on expected future earnings. Clinton, 20 years in the public eye, is like the industrial conglomerate: steady share price and reliable dividends. Think of Obama as Google and Clinton as General Electric.
.............
"We can do this," he told ecstatic supporters on Tuesday night. "It will not be easy. It will require struggle and sacrifice. There will setbacks and we will make mistakes."
But then Obama, in the next sentence, in attempt to appeal to more voters out there, didn't even mention the Democratic Party but instead his "movement" saying: "I want to speak directly to all those Americans who have yet to join this movement but still hunger for change: we need you. We need you to stand with us, and work with us, and help us prove that together, ordinary people can still do extraordinary things".
.........
In his Super Tuesday speech Obama said "we are the ones we've been waiting for", attempting to make the case the time was now to get some "change" in Washington: a post-partisan world where politicians reach across the aisle for the common good. "This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different," he said. "It's different not because of me. It's different because of you."
.......
"Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause - other than an amorphous desire for change - the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is."
I hear that too in the voices of Obama's staff constantly, themselves referring to this "cult of Obama".
"Even if he doesn't go all the way, and I'm not being defeatist, I'm so thrilled to be a part of this and see the size of the crowds turning out," one staffer tells me.
.........
. He may well build an unstoppable momentum. And then the giddiness might evaporate and be replaced with something else. In marketing they call it post-purchase disappointment. If he gets the Democratic Party's nomination another test begins anew: how to turn the narrative which is all about striving for what is possible, to one where people are suddenly asking how are you actually going to do it?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:30 AM
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39. "Funny Vibe" by Living Colour.
No, I'm not gonna rob you
No, I'm not gonna beat you
No, I'm not gonna rape you
So why you want to give me that
Funny Vibe!

No, I'm not gonna hurt you
No, I'm not gonna harm you
And I try not to hate you
So why you want to give me that
Funny Vibe!

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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:35 AM
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40. Now that's the right idea.
Living Colour did have more than one great song, after all.

Let's try one to lighten the mood in here a little.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxOXBMA7Rro

When it hurts to be out there
Where no one will care
I've got the solace of you

Frustrated by people's lying
But I keep on trying
I've got the solace of you

When I can't think straight
And there's no escape
I've got the solace of you

Gotta go inside back where it started
Back to the beginning
'Cause that's where my heart is

They can hurt me, jail my body
I'll still be free
I've got the solace of you

They can take my land
Tell me I'm not who I am
I've got the solace of you

A wise man said to know thyself
'Cause in the end there's no one else
Just the solace of you

Gotta go inside back where it started
Back to the beginning
'Cause that's where my heart is

Gotta go inside
Back to the beginning
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:38 AM
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41. Whatever the Clinton people are paying you, they should ask for a refund...
...all you're doing is making the same mistakes Bill made in South Carolina with the same lame, simplistic arguments. But, from an Obama supporter, "Keep up the good work!"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:43 AM
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42. Cult of personality--SQUAWK!! -- Not vetted -- SQUAWK!! -- Too black to win -- SQUAWK!! nt
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 07:15 AM by Kahuna
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:49 AM
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45. You are far too childish...I have a red x to hit
BYE BYE
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