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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:33 AM
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TIME Mag: Sixteen Underappreciated Obama Advantages
Obama’s February momentum, favorable press coverage, surging delegate totals, immunity from “Obama Fatigue” (particularly when compared with the unexpected, intense levels of Clinton Fatigue and Clinton animus within the Democratic Party), and still-viable donors are getting a lot of attention, but what else does he have going for him (that campaign watchers are not appreciating to the fullest)?

1. A clear, consistent, constant message frame — change — that is patently inspirational and plays most favorably in the current media and electoral environments.

2. A strategic vision of how to win that hasn’t changed since day one – almost exactly a year ago.

3. The ability to arouse unqualified pride, excitement, and righteousness in his supporters (new voters, old voters, and superdelegates alike), who enjoy feeling fashionably forward-looking and passionate about politics.

4. A coalition no one has ever put together before in a Democratic nomination fight – the most loyal Democrats (blacks) and the least loyal ones (Volvo suburbanites).

5. A candidate with the skill to both write and deliver moving, eloquent, historic-feeling and momentum-inducing speeches at pivotal moments (victory speeches, major rallies, crucial battlegrounds).

6. A tight-knit staff that never fights with each other publicly and rarely in private – who respect and like each other.

7. No single, dominant strategic thinker who sets the campaign agenda, inspires eye-rolling and resentment among colleagues, and whose decisions are second-guessed.

8. A candidate who trusts his staff — and never wonders if they are working hard enough on his behalf, or questions their devotion.

9. A candidate with an uncanny natural sense — rare in someone so new to national politics — of timing, pacing, rhythm, and tone.

10. A candidate who generally has fun on the campaign trail — and shows it (even when he is tired).

11. Less bureaucracy.

12. The ability to control most leaks, and roll out endorsements and other announcements on the campaign’s own terms.

13. The ability to raise millions without requiring precious time from the candidate.

14. True grassroots organizing, often without direction from headquarters — both on the Internet and in real life (including canvassing and “visibility” activities).

15. A home base in Illinois–there are far fewer political distractions in Chicago than in Washington.

16. An electorate that seems oddly indifferent to conventional norms of preparedness for the job of commander-in-chief — and which appears even more indifferent to the existence (or absence) of detailed policy prescriptions despite the grave problems confronting the nation.

http://thepage.time.com/halperin%E2%80%99s-take-sixteen-underappreciated-obama-advantages/
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:49 AM
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1. very good esp on the staff issues I would add
that as a community organizer he

17) knows how to add people to the voting rolls and get them to vote

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence/
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:50 AM
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2. I would be embarrassed if my candidate had these "advantages"
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:52 AM
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3. And I'd be embarrassed to be a candidate to have you on my side.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:25 AM
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7. Thank you! Please someone tell me how to put that person on ignore. nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:38 AM
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10. follow this link
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:25 AM
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13. LOL!
I don't have anyone on ignore, so I've never seen that page. Too funny. I just don't go anywhere near a thread by known PIA's.


Peace:thumbsup:
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:40 AM
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15. here's another link:
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:55 AM
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21. That's the only person I have on ignore
lol
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:01 PM
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24. The word is "JEALOUS", Proud2BTombstoned!
The sooner you get that through your head, the sooner your sanity might return. You disrupted very poorly.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:37 PM
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27. They are GONE! Best News I've heard in a LONG TIME! -nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:19 AM
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4. K & R
Should be seen far and wide.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:22 AM
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5. 16 VERY weak points
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 03:22 AM by Cronus Protagonist
Most are about speech making abilities, his staff, his organization, his... fill the blank, and the rest is sheer claptrap.

It is sad to see that not one of the claimed "advantages" is that he has a compelling position on health care, the economy, foreign policy and none of them are about how he will accomplish this "change" thing of which he speaks. Nothing, in fact, at all that really matters to the general population. This is not to say that he doesn't have such positions typed in secret on an index card held tightly against his very fuckable left butt cheek, but the writers at time.com must be drinking coolaid to think these 16 scratched up "advantages" are any advantage at all.


K&R to show the Clintonites that Obama has nothing but vaporware to sell.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:25 AM
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6. Last week I posted why I think his agriculture policy is the best out there
Edwards' was better, but sadly that's not an option now. The packer ban is a huge, huge winner in cattle and pig country (yes, it was Edwards who pushed it first, but Obama picked up on it).

I also posted why I think his education policy is better than Clinton's, particularly the AOTC. Also the jobs program centered on a green economy (which ends up falling under the education rubric because it's mostly vocational training).

The "no policies" thing is crap. He has them, he talks about them. The media don't snippet those parts of his speeches.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:35 AM
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8. You know, I don't have a lot of time to dig stuff up
I know almost nothing about Hillary's health care plan or any of her positions and as for Obama, the only think I've heard him say is "change", which I also hear every day from bums on the street, but they seem to think that I would have some to spare.

It's sad when you have to do work to find out the positions of the candidates. I knew where John Edwards stood. I knew where Dennis stood, how come I don't know where Hillary or Obama stand? I did the exact same thing with each of them, basically picked up a few news snippets here and there and read a few newspaper articles per week. I think that's a sad reflection on journalism these days, and also something the candidates, all of them, need to work on.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:36 AM
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9. Maybe Obama has figured out...
...that people who vote on issues will do the research for the details, and people that vote on personality don't really want to hear that stuff?
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noac7 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:38 AM
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11. 16 Obama Advantages, not...
16 reasons why Obama is better than Hilary. These are clearly outlined to be campaign advantages, since even you acknowledge all the points are "about speech making abilities, his staff, his organization". Advantages = explanations as to why he's leading.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:52 AM
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12. errr did you actually read the report?
only 1 item is about "speechmaking"

But you see what you want to see ...
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:58 AM
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23. I don't know about that
many of those advantages are the reasons I voted Obama over Clinton.

They matter to us weird people...the voters.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:29 PM
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25. They're talking about CAMPAIGN advantages. Not policy advantages. nt
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:19 PM
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28. And? Wouldn't having a solid platform and a way to achieve it be a campaign advantage?
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 10:20 PM by Cronus Protagonist
Ooops, sorry, that wouldn't fit because that's not being overlooked, or is it? Hey, that would also be an electability advantage, and a campaign advantage and a lot of other advantages too... I guess... it (solid achievable platfom) must... be... being.... overlooked... no wait, it can't be... because that would surely have made this inane list, wouldn't it? I mean look at the title of the article.... hmmmmmm....

Hey, his platform IS being overlooked, or perhaps there isn't one.... I wonder which? No way to know from media coverage, and this fluffy "article" is a prime example of the poor coverage that passes for journalism or commentary or editorial today.

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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:31 AM
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30. I agree with you about the fluffiness of the article.
Don't ever expect the MSM to go into depth about the candidates' platforms. That was kinda my point.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:36 AM
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14. Good, then let him open a political consulting firm
We're looking for a president.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:41 AM
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16. tough. he's in it. he's fighting hard and
unlike JE, he's not all talk. Unlike Hillary, he's not whining. Don't like it? Waaaa. Isn't that just too bad.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:41 AM
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17. kick!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:03 AM
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18. Another myopic exercise with a corporate lacky so called news outlet
The reason they give of "No single, dominant strategic thinker who sets the campaign agenda" is because no one in the watered down corporate media would have ever believed the actual candidate had any substantial brain power.

It's really all getting kind of silly :-)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:49 AM
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19. K & R
:thumbsup:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:11 AM
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20. K&R
:kick:
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 AM
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22. Yeah...this kinda puts down in writing all I've felt is missing on the Clinton side
The Clinton campaign sounds like sour-grapes, political opportunists. Slipping and sliding, bobbing and weaving, and changing their campaign to fit the political winds.

There's just an authenticity to Obama that I cannot find in Clinton.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:31 PM
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26. Mark Halperin is a rethug shill
Gawd, what's next -- the unrivaled beauty of Obama by Rush Limbaugh?
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:30 PM
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29. I think you forgot "bald faced liar"
I almost didn't recognize your post without it.
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jasonkrueger Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:38 AM
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31. The same Time magazine that said the 2006 victory meant American is moving towards the center
And when Republicans won in 1994, said America was moving right.
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