EffieBlack
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:59 AM
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Don't buy the newest "Obama can't win" argument - it's a setup! |
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Isn't it odd that yesterday, the same day that Bob Novak ran a column saying that "some Democrats fear" that Obama can't win in the general because of the "Bradley effect," Pat Buchanan and other right wingers took to the airwaves, quoting Novak and advancing the same argument? Isn't this rather suspicious?
First of all, just who are these "some Democrats" and why in the hell are they pouring out their hearts to the likes of Novak and Buchanan?
Second, isn't it odd that just a few weeks ago, these same guys were all over the place saying that Obama couldn't possibly win any primaries, then he can't win primaries in predominantly white states and then, once he started cutting a swath through red and blue states across the country, they switched their argument to "he's not doing well with Hispanics?" And since that doesn't seem to be working, pivoted again to wringing their hands and bemoaning, "Oh, Lord! White people won't vote for him in the general!!!"
Don't you find this all a little suspicious? Doesn't it make at least one eyebrow go up to see how the right wing machine is marching out with the same talking point - one that is supposedly based on what "some Democrats" have told them?
I think it's clear as day what's going on. These guys are getting scared to death because they have spent the last four years gearing up to run against Clinton and think they know just how to do it (I beg to differ with them - no matter what they have thrown at either her or Bill over the years, they've managed to eat their lunch and move right along, so these people don't need to be so cocky - but that's another point). They are scared to death that they won't get the Hillary they know but the Barack they don't. And they don't have a clue how to run against him.
They're scared to death of Obama.
So, PLEASE don't fall for the okey-doke. If you're planning to vote for Hillary, by all means vote for her. But if you're planning to vote for Obama, DON'T back off of him because of this right wing bullshit. And if you're undecided, please don't let the fact that Bob Novak and his ilk have warned that he can't win anywhere in the United States weigh into your decision. It's a lie designed to sow doubt and fear among current or potential Obama supporters.
DO NOT GO FOR IT!!!
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:01 AM
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1. This country is more sexist than racist. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:12 AM
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4. That's one possible explanation. If Hillary were ahead, there would be plenty claiming |
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the opposite.
Gender and race obviously play a role in some voters' choices. We each arrive at our own conclusions as to how much.
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Tue Feb-12-08 09:13 AM
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11. At least DU is more sexist than racist - and the college towns seem that way |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:05 AM
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2. He most certainly can win in the general election. |
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He's a very capable candidate. But, there are obstacles which are obvious and particular to Obama which need to be faced and overcome. I intend to be that base of support if he get the nom, even though I'm pulling for Hillary Clinton to win. I think we could win that fight. The desperation of the opposition gives me pause when I consider either of these two in the general, but they both are excellent representatives of our Democratic party, and both should do well in the general, if nominated.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:09 AM
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3. Of course, he'd have challenges - challenges that no other candidate has ever faced |
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But that's very different than saying he can't win.
I so agree with you about them both being excellent candidates and wish more people around here approached this the way you do.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:30 AM
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but he can also lose....the repubs aren't going to roll over and die...i fully expect that should obama......win the nomination the media will began their steady everyday whisper campaign yill it reaches a really loud roar.... the sniping between obama and hillary is nothing compared to what he'll get should he hang on to win
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:38 AM
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7. Of course he can lose. So can McCain. So can Clinton. Anyone can. |
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That's not, in my view, a good enough reason to justify someone not being the nominee.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:57 AM
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10. i think at this moment he'll be the nominee |
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but i think there's a decent chance he won't win in nov...and from all i've seen from his more vocal supporters they don't allow for the possibility that he can lose
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:32 AM
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6. It's a coordinated effort |
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on the part of the republicans who recognize that Barack Obama would not only win by a huge margin over McCain, but that an Obama candidacy would help bring a substantial number of democratic victories in the congressional elections.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:43 AM
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8. Not to mention that an Obama presidency could be truly transformational |
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in ways that scare the bejeesus out of them.
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H2O Man
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:56 AM
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with that. This nation has a choice -- "real change" or "more of the same." And there are many who are too comfortable with he way things are, and would like things to stay the same in the future. But that is not a real choice: for no matter who wins the presidency, this nation will change. The only question is if it will change for the better, or for the worse.
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