MrsT
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:24 PM
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Fellow Clinton supporters: is there any reason to think she won't lose by 10-20% today? |
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I have been looking around for any evidence that any of today's elections will be close, and I am not seeing any. Does anyone have any good news, or should I start warming myself up for another string of big losses today?
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 PM
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1. Get out the keys. HRC's losing big today |
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The weather is the only thing that MIGHT keep her from losing by at least 15% in every race. She really needs to drop out for the good of the party/country.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:27 PM
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Are You A Clinton Supporter? |
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After all, that was what the poster asked for.
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:36 PM
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21. Another pop-in who just dropped by for some Hillary bashing |
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Didn't read the subject header or you're just trolling?
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Dinger
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 PM
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2. Clinton Supporter? Yeah, Right (nt) |
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 PM
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3. At my polling place... |
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9 out of 10 voters voted in the Democratic Primary. 8 out of the 9 were elderly. 7 out of the 8 were women which could mean lots of support for Hillary. We won't know until it's over.
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:12 PM
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Women aren't 'that easy'. I'm not in today's voting population and I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I am female, and I have female friends, and we pretty much aren't all in the same camp.
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:33 PM
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18. Duh......all the polls show that older women are going for Hillary... |
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it has nothing to do with stereotyping, it's polling.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:27 PM
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4. yes. because these are primaries, not popularity contest caucuses |
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where people badmouth the clintons on end, scaring people to vote for obama. also, we may be able to get the white vote out in VA as well.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:27 PM
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She's going to win Virginia, and don't be surprised by Maryland.
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MrsT
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:29 PM
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6. But why do you think that? |
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Have you seen evidence, or is it just a hunch?
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MrsT
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:30 PM
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 12:30 PM by MrsT
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:30 PM
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8. I'm technically on the Obama side but sanguine enough to comment I hope |
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I suspect she'll be within 20 and probably even 10 in MD, but probably not in VA. The delegate advantage will not be huge in either case however, and premature celebrations or mourning should be avoided. Now if Obama wins TX or OH she's screwn.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:31 PM
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9. Virginia is an open primary state, so she'll lose there |
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:38 PM
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10. I have to LOL every time I hear or read the media... |
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Including Stephanie Miller, Randi Rhodes, et al, talk in terms of how Hillary is losing so badly... yet she still has more delegates than Obama... interesting, isn't it?
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:44 PM
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11. God damn - that is one idiotic argument to make |
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Clinton was leading by 30-40% not 2 months ago, so some superdelegates / early voters simply went with name recognition. Obama is kicking HRC's ass by double digit margins in every race now. Do you honestly think that superdelegates are going to overcome the will of the people?
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:32 PM
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17. No, yours is the "idiotic" argument... |
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Since I wasn't arguing, but merely stating fact.
Get a grip, read the rules of this place, and back the fuck off.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 PM
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13. Today will end that once and for all |
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:55 PM
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14. Ohio and Texas will give Clinton back a commanding lead. nt |
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:59 PM
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15. God, and PA -- why do people keep forgetting that state? |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 12:59 PM by LostinVA
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:38 PM
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22. One way or the other... |
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And as an Edwards voter, I don't give a flying rat's ass which one comes out on top because short of some genitalia and melanin, these two aren't much different at all. I'm just sick of the stupid in-fighting!!!
All y'all are nutty.
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:34 PM
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19. She might have more including super delegates |
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But she is losing pledged delegates by around 60
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:49 PM
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12. "Speaking as a lifelong Democrat" nt |
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:35 PM
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20. No. I fully expect it. |
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Especially since western Maryland and western Virginia are getting really horrid weather today. Those are the areas where HRC has stronger support.
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:46 PM
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23. I'm an Obama supporter, but I do think you've got silver linings a-plenty. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 02:55 PM by SteppingRazor
Yes, Obama will likely win today, and by a pretty good margin. He'll probably also pick up WI and HI in a week.
However, I'm not convinced that the momentum that buys is necessarily enough to counteract the several-week head start that Hillary will have campaigning in Ohio and Texas. I find the Rudy-Hillary/Florida-Texas comparisons to be, to be blunt, ridiculous. After Feb. 19, I think Obama will likely have the delegate lead even when superdelegates are taken into account. But I think Hillary will retake the lead March 4. And unlike the gap between Super Tuesday and March 4, which saw 10 primaries and caucuses, the gap between March 4 and the Pennsylvania primary on April 22 includes only two primaries, and of those, only Mississippi is almost assuredly an Obama win.
Come April 23, it's quite possible that Hillary will once again have a pretty good lead.
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