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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:30 PM
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Attn Hillary supporters: Hillary campaign needs your help...
There is new established double speak that needs to be spread around. The new talking points are that Super-delegates should now be called automatic-delagates.

In a sign that the spin war over the significance of super-delegates is underway in earnest, Harold Ickes told assorted Hillary supporters on a private conference call yesterday that the campaign wants them to start referring to super-delegates as "automatic delegates," according to someone on the call.

The person I spoke to paraphrases Ickes, who is spearheading Hillary's super-delegate hunt, this way: "We're no longer using the phrase super delegates. It creates a wrong impression. They're called automatic delegates. Because that's what they are."

The worry appears to be that the phrase "super-delegates" implies that "they have super-powers or super influence when they don't," the source says, describing Ickes' thinking. In other words, the phrase suggests that they have greater than average clout and that they have the power to overrule the democratic process, giving it the taint of back-room power politics.

The new term "automatic delegates" appears to be ostensibly a reference to the fact that these folks are super-delegates automatically, by virtue of their office or position...




http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_adviser_harold_ickes_t.php
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:32 PM
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1. already got the message via mind control device.

but thanks!

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:33 PM
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2. Another dirty trick from Team Obama at DU
They'll do anything to win.

Then they'll blame Hillary.

--p!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM
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3. I didn't make this up.... see the link? nt
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:57 PM
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10. You're right. I apologize.
I should have said, "Another dirty trick from Team Obama" and not implicated you specifically.

--p!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:00 PM
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12. Do you have proof that this is from Team Obama?
Because if I hear Hillary use the term "automatic delgates" I will come to you to get an apology.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:00 PM
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13. Duped again!
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 02:02 PM by Pigwidgeon
I need a debouncing keyboard that won't drive me crazy.

--p!
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM
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7. what is the dirty trick, explain please
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:39 PM
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4. The term "automatic" seems to imply they wont be free to move to Obama
I bet that doesnt go over well with super delegates either still uncommited or currently on Hillary's side.

It sounds like she is taking them for granted.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM
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6. I actually think they are doing this to get rid of the word super.
Super implies something special. Automatic implies that these delegates are here first and the pledged delegates come later.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:46 PM
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9. That's what it sounded like to me
They are 'automatically' in your pocket. I'm pretty sure this tactic will not work anyway.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:58 PM
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11. It definetely won't work since it has been leaked out. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:43 PM
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5. Your subject heading is dishonest.
It is intended to make the reader think s/he is responding to a legitmate call for donations or time and instead it is just another one of your pointless rants.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:46 PM
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8. This is what Hillary told her campaign supporters....
No different than a call for donatinos or time. She would like her supporters to donate, work, and call super-delegates "automatic-delegates"
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