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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM
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Sandra Tsing Loh, SoCal Public Radio: "I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter and really unhappy about it."
Hillary in a Handbasket, Part One: Barack-orama
February 11, 2008
Sandra Tsing Loh defends her backing of Senator Hillary Clinton for president.

....I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter and I'm really unhappy about it. I have indigestion, I feel surly, I sleep badly at night. Compare that to all of my Los Angeles friends, and my husband, who are high on Obama! They all look great – their cheeks are flushed, they've started running again, blending up veggie shakes in the morning. For Democrats, Obama is like a tonic, a stimulant.

In fact, it was the third time I was invited to an Obama party. Note how no one has Hillary parties. Oh no, we punch our ballots grimly behind our dusty curtain, in silence. Anyway, it was the third time I was invited to an Obama party – you know, the kind where attractive singles meet other attractive singles for hiking! And biking! It was then that I perversely solidified into a sullen lump of Camp Hillary.

I have nothing against Barack Obama. The guy seems articulate, impassioned, intelligent. I'm just sick of his supporters beating up on Ms. Clinton! Okay, so she voted Bush the authority to go to war. She was one of many. She didn't start the war. But no, to hear my friends tell it, it's as though Hillary rode the first tank in, legs akimbo, possibly oiled, waving a cowboy hat and hooting, while Obama bravely stood Tiananmen Square-like in front of the tank! I recall no such photo. I don't recall him saying anything at all. It was that 90-year-old Democratic senator, going on at length!

No, to me it comes down to a woman of a certain age making a tough call in a difficult time. And you know as a woman, if she didn't, the Republicans would call her soft. And even though people keep trashing her right and left, this woman of a certain age keeps gettin' her hair done, putting on her blazer, showin' up for work. As a mother, I too made unpopular decisions that all the little Democrats living in my house whine on about, and yet I still put a big smile on and start that minivan every morning....

http://www.scpr.org/news/stories/2008/02/11/09_loh_life_hillary_1_0.html
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:42 PM
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1. She exxagerated the with the IWR vote analogy a little too much...
No one accueses Clinton of being an architect of the war. But she damn sure supported it...and MANY other Dems who had voted for it has now said that they regret ever making that decision and apologized the the Democratic Party. Not ol'Hillary...she maintains that BS "If I had known then what I know now" excuse which has never really flown with a majority of people I don't think.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM
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6. This is, I think, a humor piece. Poking some fun at supporters of both candidates, and herself. nt
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM
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8. her and edwards both trusted a bit to much
It happens to humans from time to time.
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:42 PM
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2. HRC is getting a bum deal.
I am sick of hearing how wonderful Obama is and how horrible Hillary is.
MSNBC has certainly showed their colors. The disrespect for women over there is worse than anything that Fox News Channel has put out.
:puke:
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM
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12. Yeah
I've been an Edwards supporter from the beginning and if I do end up voting for Clinton on March 4th, it will be an anti-Obama vote.

I would be perfectly happy with Clinton as the nominee. I will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee. And I can do that because I live in a state that will vote 80% D - if I lived somewhere that counted, I'd vote for whomever the nominee is.

I am so sick and tired at the shit the Obama campaign and his supporters and surrogates are slinging at Senator and President Clinton.

I am sick to death of the 24/7 Obama lovefest in the media and on the net.

I met Obama and I thought he was a prick. I will never vote for him. Ever.
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:00 PM
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17. He's a schmuck.
And we will all see just what a schmuck he is when the media turns on him after they give him the nomination.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:43 PM
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3. Parties are bad, m'kay
Strange article, it's like she gets it but won't accept it. I think that's sometimes called denial.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:46 PM
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10. I actually think the point of the article was humor -- poking some fun...
at supporters of both candidates, and herself.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:50 PM
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14. I also thought that (n/t)
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM
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4. awsome
Hilarious.


I love Hillary

Go Obama!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:48 PM
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11. That's how I saw the article -- I support Obama, but like Hillary, too. I saw humor. nt
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM
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5. She exxagerated with the IWR vote analogy a little too much...
No one accueses Clinton of being an architect of the war. But she damn sure supported it...and MANY other Dems who had voted for it has now said that they regret ever making that decision and apologized to the Democratic Party. Not ol'Hillary...she maintains that BS "If I had known then what I know now" excuse which has never really flown with a majority of people I don't think.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM
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7. "my Los Angeles friends, and my husband, who are high on Obama! They all look great – their cheeks
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 02:02 PM by Pirate Smile
are flushed, they've started running again, blending up veggie shakes in the morning. For Democrats, Obama is like a tonic, a stimulant."

I know what she means.

Funny article.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM
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9. ...
:nopity:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM
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13. "And you know as a woman, if she didn't, the Republicans would call her soft."
I thought the #1 reason to vote for Hillary was that she was tough enough to stand up to Republicans. If standing up means not giving them the ammunition to be criticized for her decisions, then it's not much good at all. Perhaps Hillary sees the presidency as a position of moral or political authority which puts the incumbent a level above the members of the house and senate, therefore lowering the impact of their attacks by 50%. To be sure, Bush has run it that way. But I don't think that super caution and carefulness in the senate is proof of dynamic forceful leadership in the White House - more like she's spent her time in the Senate being Very Careful not to make any political mistakes.

To me that's not leadership, but ladder-climbing. I don't remember any big fights where she was willing to get into a showdown with Republicans. Others may have different opinions.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:53 PM
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16. I was going to post the same thing.
Because "if she didn't, the Republicans would call her soft." is no excuse. It's cowardice.

Others voted for the IWR and apologized. But oh no, not Hillary.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:53 PM
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15. What was it Edwards kept saying over & over again?
Something like "the powers that be ALWAYS defend against those who try to shake things up"? Not his exact words, but I think that's the essence. Hillary thought she was the inevitable nominee and assumed the power associated with the assumption of being the front-runner. As dedicated supporters do, the assumed some of that power too. Of course they feel threated by what's happening now, with this fresh, new incredibly strong new energy intruding on their presumed position. Can't blame them for being disgruntled, it's all part of the territory.


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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:23 PM
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18. Handbasket...
Under the guise of humor, she is making the same lame arguement that so many feminist supporters of Hillary make: she can't be blamed for her wrong decisions because if she hadn't voted that way, she would have been called "weak." So what? Anyone who doesn't vote for war is always called "weak," male or female.

The whole idea behind electing women to office was that they wouldn't get caught-up in these kinds of pissing contests. You can't then turn around and say: "Well, she has to play with the boys, so she must follow their rules." If that is true - which I doubt - okay. But you have then sacrificed the right to argue in favor of a candidate simply because she is a woman.
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