I don't recall the outrage when KO used the term "pimping" to describe a republican

[itsrobert]

Double standards for certain DU members?

[niyad]

1. please cite when he did so, and in what context

[LSparkle]

3. A "Special Comment" about Petraeus

He claimed Bush was hiding behind Petraeus' skirts and that Petraeus was being "pimped" to cover Shrub.

[niyad]

4. which special comment? link, please

[Political Heretic]

7. Hey, I saw it too.

Go search yourself for the special comment in response to the Petreus report to congress.

[niyad]

12. why? I asked the person who made the claim to provide the link.

it is really quite simple, and not my job to do so. you saw it too? fine, provide the link. it isn't MY job to go look for it.

[Political Heretic]

28. It's right below you. And it was right below you when you responded.

Anything else?

[northzax]

10. Petraeus is, I have noticed, male

and while men can be pimped out in a sexual manner, it is more often used to infer that the man is a lapdog. For women, being pimped out connotes that they are a whore.

saying a man is on his knees in front of someone implies he is a coward.
saying a woman is on her knees in front of someone implies she is performing fellatio.

it's a different standard.

would you mind if I pimp out your daughter?

[panader0]

2. I don't remember that.

[Forkboy]

5. Just tossing this out there....

But just maybe there's as many left wing hypocrites as right wing hypocrites. Perhaps, just perhaps, ALL of us at one point or another. And perhaps (perhaps perhaps...sorry, song flashback) some don't see it in themselves so they never try to change it.

:shrug:

[seriousstan]

6. Here it is....And in **pimping** General David Petraeus, Sir

"And in **pimping** General David Petraeus, Sir, in violation of everything this country has been assiduously and vigilantly against for 220 years, you have tried to blur the gleaming **radioactive** demarcation between the military and the political, and to portray **your** party as the one associated with the military, and your opponents as the ones somehow antithetical to it."



http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/20/372833.aspx

[TooBigaTent]

8. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general - even if the "child" is an adult.

And we all remeber the crude remarks made by countless pukes about Chelsea when she was a child.

[niyad]

16. and perhaps there is a difference in selling out your soul, and

doing something perfectly legal and aboveboard that the adult children of male candidates do? I have never heard anyone use those words in describing the adult children of any other candidate speaking on behalf of their parent.

[TooBigaTent]

9. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general - even if the "child" is an adult.

And we all remeber the crude remarks made by countless pukes about Chelsea when she was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

11. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general - even if the "child" is an adult.

And we all remember the crude remarks made by countless pukes about Chelsea when she was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

23. SORRY for the triple posting - computer is acting up. nt

[Garbo 2004]

13. Special comment Sept 2007. Crooks & Liars has text and video:

Excerpt:

Mr. Bush, you had no right to order General Petraeus to become your front man.

And he obviously should have refused that order and resigned rather than ruin his military career.

The upshot is — and contrary it is, to the MoveOn advertisement — he betrayed himself more than he did us.

But there has been in his actions a sort of reflexive courage, some twisted vision of duty at a time of crisis. That the man doesn’t understand that serving officers cannot double as serving political ops, is not so much his fault as it is your good, exploitable, fortune.

But Mr. Bush, you have hidden behind the General’s skirts, and today you have hidden behind the skirts of ‘the planted last question’ at a news conference, to indicate once again that your presidency has been about the tilted playing field, about no rules for your party in terms of character assassination and changing the fabric of our nation, and no right for your opponents or critics to as much as respond.

That, sir, is not only un-American — it is dictatorial.

And in pimping General David Petraeus, sir, in violation of everything this country has been assiduously and vigilantly against for 220 years, you have tried to blur the gleaming radioactive demarcation between the military and the political, and to portray your party as the one associated with the military, and your opponents as the ones somehow antithetical to it.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/20/countdown-special-comment-the-president-of-hypocrisy/

[itsrobert]

18. And I think I applauded him for saying that

Now I know I was wrong as having been educated by the DU masses.

[niyad]

24. I applaud him for saying it, as well. the difference is, petraeus is covering up

illegal and immoral activities of the bushcos. he sold his soul, forgetting what his uniform is for.

chelsea, on the other hand, was doing something perfectly legal that the adult children of male candidates have always done, and none of them have ever been said to have been "pimped out" by their MALE parent. there IS a difference, and context is everything.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

27. Forgetting what his uniform is for...

That is precisely it. He put his career above the well-being of his troops.

He's a disgrace to every man and women who honorably served their country.

In Petraus' case, the word "pimping" isn't just slang. It's an accurate description of his behavior and his character.

[TooBigaTent]

14. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general - even if the "child" is an adult.

And we all remember the crude remarks made by countless pukes about Chelsea when she was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

15. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general - even if the "child" is an adult.

And we all remember the crude remarks made by countless pukes about Chelsea when she was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

17. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general.

And we all remember the countless crude comments by pukes and pundits when Chelsea really was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

19. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general.

And we all remember the countless crude comments by pukes and pundits when Chelsea really was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

20. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general.

And we all remember the countless crude comments by pukes and pundits when Chelsea really was a child.

[TooBigaTent]

21. Perhaps it is thought that a child of a politician deserves a little more

protection than an army general.

And we all remember the countless crude comments by pukes and pundits when Chelsea really was a child.

[dcindian]

22. of course there is a double standard

It is a sad day when politicians can use such feigned outrage to shut up the media. Very sad indeed

Yet it is even sadder when America's so called news has become a cesspool of divisive opinion nearly devoid of any news at all due to our appetite for such.

And in our rush to defend of "our" side we do not realize the real enemy of democracy comes from both situations. Our willingness to smash it and our willingness to look past it.

[mitchtv]

25. Keith meant it in a derogatory way

Shuster tried to say it was just Slang, and since it was about Clinton , it was just fine with about half of DU'rs. Yeah there's a double standard

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

26. If you came here to pick a fight with KO

You REALLY came to the wrong place...

But just to be clear, there's a massive difference between an Army General fudging the truth before Congress to perpetuate the War in Iraq and Chelsea Clinton campaigning on behalf of her mother. I'm not even a Clinton supporter, and I get that much.