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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:16 PM
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Obama needs Hillary to stay in the race in order to avoid the media
search light. Once he is on his own, it will be swiftboat 24/7 and it will be all downhill.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:18 PM
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1. lame.
gfy.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:21 PM
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2. Thank you for that trenchant analysis.
I suppose it wouldn't help to point out that, if he wins the nomination, he won't have Hillary around, so even if he thought that his nomination would be sunk were he to get the sole place in the spotlight, it would be useless to keep her hanging around. Kinda invalidates the whole point of your argument, no? :shrug:
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:23 PM
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3. IMO, if she leaves shortly, he will toast by the convention. n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:29 PM
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20. I'm willing to take that risk
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:24 PM
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4. More lame assertions that Obama will get slaughtered by media attention
We get it. That's today's spam topic. Thank you guys for the forty fucking threads to that effect.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:39 PM
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14. how soon you forget 04!!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:48 PM
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15. Right, sure
I forget that Kerry was a weak ass candidate from the git go, and could do just about anything but wake up an audience.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:30 PM
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21. and obama is weak candidate from the git-go
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:32 PM
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23. So weak that he's tied/ahead in the middle of February?
Explainy.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:25 PM
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5. If the dreaded Hillary couldn't vanquish Sir Barack, then I doubt Old Duffer John
will be able to either.

No matter how much you hope the GOP avenges the dreaded Lady Hillary!
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:26 PM
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6. McCain will never be their nominee. n/t
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:27 PM
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7. See, now we know you're full of it.
McCain is already their nominee. It's all over but the crying. He could come in second place in every other primary and still be the nominee.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:33 PM
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10. I have posted many times they will bring in a ringer at their convention. So many times that
I decided to give it a break, but if you believe Cheney will let this happen, so be it.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:37 PM
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11. mmkay. I'll look you up after the RNC when McCain's nomination is official.
:hi:
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:30 PM
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8. I would prefer Clinton drop out sooner than later....
The right wing is already going to quote the Clinton campaign's attacks on Obama.


Remember Bill's "Obama = Roll of dice"
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A_Titanic_Mess Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:31 PM
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9. RE: Obama needs Hillary to stay in the race in order to avoid the media
Just wait til the GOP start with the black separatist-church stuff. Hope Obama is ready for the assualt.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:37 PM
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12. I have a feeling that a lot of DUers don't remember 2004
The Dems looked good poll-wise against Bush all during the primaries.

The swift-boating against Kerry didn't start until after he was chosen as the nominee.

So, I think that the person who started this thread does have a good point.

It seems to me that Obama has the better chance of being the nominee. It also seems to me that he is trying to gain the votes of independents and Republicans. It's easier for him to do that while Hillary is in the race. Once the contest is between McCain and Obama, then it becomes obvious that Obama is the "liberal" that so many independents and Republicans hate.

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:58 PM
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16. yup, Obama is uber liberal-GOP machine will be unstoppable
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 05:38 PM
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13. love it---that is true. ho ho
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:06 PM
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17. I wouldn't have put it in those exact terms...
... but you can't say they haven't been warned. I've been trying to tell folks to buckle up because it's going to be a very bumpy ride. They ain't seen nothing yet, as the saying goes.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:25 PM
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18. Right. And he needs her to keep fundraising, so he won't be inundated by donations now going to her
Say, wanna buy a bridge over the Potomac?
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Franks Wild Years Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:28 PM
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19. Obama has....
...the right mixture of magnatism, of self belief, of arrogance & ability that is required by anyone who wants to win an election cleanly and clearly. If you think he'll meekly recline and play nicey-nicey as soon as the predictable adverts and comments start emerging from the self-proclaimed 'Gook Hater's campaign, I think you're very much mistaken.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:31 PM
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22. If BHO frightens some DUers so much
Just think what he'll do to the GOoPers :scared:

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:37 PM
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24. Good chance of being true
Right now the swiftboaters are piling behind the dem Hillary haters (shame on them). But once they her taken "care off" watch out for the attacks on Obama.
Look - we have TWO great candidates. pick whichever you want. But the Hillary-hate is beyond the pale. it will only come back to haunt Obama in the fall. And no-one wants that.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:32 PM
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25. Agree
I think that Obama has huge momentum now and will likely win the Dem nomination.

But I think that there is no way that there won't be bumps in the road.

Anyone else remember the huge numbers of people who went to anti-war demonstrations when McGovern was running for President as the anti-war candidate. Remember how that turned out?

Just saying that people should not get so arrogant that they cause Obama to lose the general election.

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