Obama Voted Against Giving The Telecoms Immunity

[Me.]

I bring this up because I read on DU he had voted for it, so in the interest of fairness...

“The vote also provided an opportunity to showcase the key differences on national security between presidential candidates, as Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), voted against immunity for telecoms, and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), voted to keep immunity in the bill. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) did not show up for the vote. All three candidates were in the Washington area for the region's three primaries today.”

ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/12/politics/politico/thecrypt/main3821504.shtml

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Notice how that one is being framed. Obama might as well have

put up the white flag.

[H2O Man]

2. Nominated.

Thank you.

[IndianaGreen]

3. Biden, Kerry, Kennedy, Feingold voted for the people against the telecoms

and more importantly, they stood up for the Constitution!

Where was Hillary?

[Me.]

4. It's Not Over Yet

"Senate passage will set up a contentious conference committee negotiation with the House, which voted against retroactive lawsuit immunity. The Bush administration has warned that it would veto any FISA bill that does not grant immunity."

[Leopolds Ghost]

9. But both bills permit the warrantless wiretap program to continue

According to a magazine (Vanity Fair?) expose, things like massive dragnet of domestic calls/emails
are being redefined narrowly to "an unspecified number of flagged targets linked to overseas targets
of surveillance" by an indefinite chain. Roving wiretaps simply skip around the data already collected,
deciding who to focus on and whose data is irrelevant.

[sellitman]

5. I wonder how much $$ Verizon & att gave her champaign?

This was a very bad mistake on her part.

She was in the DC area too. Its not like she wasnt available

[Me.]

7. I Am Not Going To Assume That

I do know they gave Reid and others a bundle. But I agree with you that where a lot of progressives are concerned, this is a huge deal and she should have shown up.

[Indenturedebtor]

11. Heres an accounting of the contris from telecoms

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/5/4/144406.shtml?s=ic

Enjoy :hi:

As much as I'm not a fan of NewsMax, it's kinda hard to make up numbers.

[Me.]

12. Thanks

Didn't know

[sellitman]

21. Their numbers aren't worth spit

Nothing from that site is worth repeating.

[PDittie]

16. Campaigning in San Antonio n/t

[democrat2thecore]

6. Seriously, if she was in town --- WHY didn't she vote???? -nt

[corkhead]

13. NPE

Not Politically Expedient

[johnnydrama]

14. look who's working for Verizon

and you'll figure it out.

[PDittie]

18. She wasn't

She was in Texas campaigning (San Antonio, specifically).

[TheDonkey]

19. She's needs big telecom money to help her in the texas and ohio primaries

[Bread and Circus]

8. K and R

[sonias]

10. K & R

:patriot:


Sonia

[yeswecan08]

15. Obama is the most courageous man in the U.S. Senate - read his Iraq speech

[cooolandrew]

17. This is the thing he does put the bill of rights first good on him .God bless you barack.

[Me.]

20. Those Dems Who Voted To Stop Immunity

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Casey (D-PA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Tester (D-MT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

[RuleOfNah]

22. Obama must really want my vote.

Simply on the basis of that one vote I look to the top of the DU page and think 'Go Obama! Get McCain! Beat Clinton to the punch!'.

I'll leave it at that, neither side wants to know more about my basis.

[RuleOfNah]

23. Thanks for the heart anonymous!

I appreciate it.

I'll guess that the post above is why I received one. My Primary vote can't be bought (I already voted) and my November vote is (D) and yet I still feel a little like a politician. A few kind words here, a heart kickback there, it's how the game works, right? Now, how do I get a bridge to nowhere...