Kerry, Kennedy, Obama , Biden, Dodd - YEA; Hillary: not voting

[NJSecularist]

We see who the true progressives in this party are when the Senate votes on matters such as these.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015

[fenriswolf]

1. Feinstien let a real progressive into your seat you POS

[Renew Deal]

3. The House can save us on this right?

Don't they have to approve as well? I hope our 231 does the right thing.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

6. Apparently the house is more hostile to the immunity portion of the bill

So hopefully it will get dropped from the bill after all.

[Renew Deal]

9. I hope they do their job,

I have to bug my critter.

[corkhead]

2. She's still thinking that her votes could come back to bite her in the general

:shrug:

[gateley]

5. Oh - I'm afraid you may be right. But wouldn't it be smarter, at this point,

to worry about not alienating potential voters while she's still not been named the nom?

Politics. Thank god WE'RE all sane and not involved in this racket! :crazy:

[hisownpetard]

14. Bite her in the general? You mean, bite her in the ass!

:bounce:

[gateley]

4. Was this today's vote? I haven't gotten caught up yet.

If so, I' surprised Hillary didn't participate - it's the right thing to do, for us and politically.

What say you, Clinton supporters? Thus far usually they ALL show for a vote, or they all don't,

[Bread and Circus]

7. Endorse that, John Edwards.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. Remind me. We have a majority, right?

:banghead:

[aquarius dawning]

10. This is a representative Democracy. Senators exercise the will of their constituency...period.

That's how we roll in America. So you can't really blame the Senator for his or her vote because it isn't him or her voting, it's the people that voted him or her into the office you need to blame for not being progressive enough.

[Jack Bone]

11. from my understanding..The US House of Rep's was meant to reflect..

the will of the people. In contrast, The US Senate was meant to be a more deliberative body. Weighing both the will of the people and the good of the nation.

but then again, what the hell do I know?? :shrug:

[aquarius dawning]

12. No, the Senate was meant to get small states to sign onto this idea called the United States.

A truly representative congress would be unicameral and would be completely proportional and it would represent people, not states.

[Jack Bone]

15. yes, I agree w/ you on the small states...partly

But to further prove my original point, please look to the term limits. House is 2 years, Senate 6 years. That was instituted to make the Senate a deliberative body, free from the control of emotional issues that tend to occur within truly Representative body.

[aquarius dawning]

16. That's true. I would still be happier with a unicameral congress representing people, not states.

Any named party that could assemble at least, oh say, 100,000 supporters nationwide would be seated in the unicameral house with voting power proportionally equal to the number of members nationwide. If there were 20 partys in the house each with exactly 1,000,000 members, each party would wield exactly 5% of the overall power. If a simple majority were needed to pass legislation, at least 11 partys would have to agree to vote together. If there were 20 partys and they each had 1,000,000 membersexcept one had 2,000,000 (call it the gay party if you will), that party's vote would be equal to about two of the votes cast by one of the other partys. In this way, everyone in America receives representation, nobody gets left out in the cold, two party democratic dictatorship is avoided, and lobbyist types have little chance of influencing legislation. It is a more perfect union. It's pretty much my favorite made up form of government.

[Auntie Bush]

13. Is Hillary copying Obama by not voting?

Has she learned if you don't vote or vote present or hit the wrong button...
That no one can accuse you of voting for or voting against a controversial
issue. Good move Hillary...I always knew you were intelligent and a fast learner. Go Hillary Go