Is PA more Red than VA? Which state do you think white men are more unlikely to go for Obama?

[thepurpose]

Not a poll. I heard the PA Gov's comment and it makes no sense to me.

[Occam Bandage]

1. I'm proud of Virginia. They're proving the racist shit wrong--dead wrong.

[Coexist]

6. YES, they did.

Dems are walkin' the walk this year and I am exceedingly proud of them.

[WCGreen]

2. PA is really a blue state that swung a few times for the GOP....

Usually when the rest of the country swung that way...

[TwilightGardener]

3. PA is more racist, in a very hidden way, than anywhere I've ever lived.

[K Gardner]

4. Well, 55% of white men voted for Obama in VA today. We'll see..

[bigdarryl]

5. I live next to PA in Jersey and was listening to talk Conservative radio

and most of the callers from PA disagreed with the Governors comments.

[thepurpose]

8. Thanks bigdarryl. I'm in Houston and never lived in PA, but I still find it hard to believe

the Gov is on the pulse of a significant portion of the people in PA.

[rinsd]

7. Claiming 5% of the electorate is racist makes no sense to you?

HARRISBURG, Pa. - Gov. Ed Rendell, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most visible supporters, said some white Pennsylvanians are likely to vote against her rival Barack Obama because he is black.

"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday's paper.

To buttress his point, Rendell cited his 2006 re-election campaign, in which he defeated Republican challenger Lynn Swann, the former Pittsburgh Steelers star, by a margin of more than 60 percent to less than 40 percent.

"I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann been the identical candidate that he was — well-spoken, charismatic, good-looking — but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so," he said. "And that (attitude) exists. But on the other hand, that is counterbalanced by Obama's ability to bring new voters into the electoral pool."

[TheDonkey]

9. PA is less educated

overall I think that is the point. In VA there are more college and post graduates. In PA more blue collar high school only that gravitate to Clinton. I do not think based off of race though but familiarity.

[Freedomofspeech]

10. I can't believe Rendell said that...

Lynn Swann didn't win because he had no platform he was even running on. The Repugs picked him because he was a football hero and thought people would vote for him. We live in the redneck part of the state (SW), and I'm sure there are some people who won't vote for Obama because he's black, but so many of these idiots don't vote anyway, so I don't think it's an issue. I am really insulted by Rendell's statements. Why do all politicians think we are so stupid?

[Kahuna]

11. PA is not more red than VA. They're considered a toss up state - ish..

[fujiyama]

12. PA and OH are somewhat similar

with OH being more conservative of the two.

Both are rust belt states, that have been hit hard by the job losses in the manufacturing sector. VA has a large number of college educated white collar workers, especially in NoVa. VA was also the first state to elect the first African American governor. I'm not sure if either PA or OH have had African Americans win a significant statewide office, though I believe that hack that lost in OH was elected as SoS...

PA has two major liberal areas - Philly and Pittsburgh. Considering the demographics, I think Obama will carry Philly, not sure about Pittsburgh. As for the rest of the state, it's kind of rural and like the south in many ways (didn't Carville call it Alabama but with Philly and Pittsburgh?).


Ohio has Cleveland...Much of the state is conservative. But while it seemed to be the case that Hillary did well among moderates, Obama has shown a better ability to get crossover voters.

It's interesting to note that both PA and OH had African American republicans running for governor last year. They both lost by a significant margin, but that was a largely anti-republican election and it's hard to say whether race played a major factor or not.

[grantcart]

13. I didn't get the memo are we or are we not counting PA???