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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:19 PM
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No Gloating here....I honestly think it is over if Obama gets 60% in Virginia
and half the white vote. It not only defeates the electability argument, but it is going to make the primaries vary difficult for Clinton in Ohio.


She can't simply score a victory in Ohio. SHe needs to win about 60% to start eating into the elected delegate lead and the assertion to donore that that is a possibiulity once we see the next OHio poll is going to seem far fetched.

If he gets 65% in Virginia. I would not be suprised if Hillary calls it quits because the mountain is just to steep to climb.


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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:20 PM
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1. Even if he won 80%, it wouldn't be over.
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yeswecan08 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:20 PM
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2. Hillary should do the noble thing and think of the party
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:20 PM
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3. It is getting tough for HRC, but there is no way she is dropping out before March 5.
And I'm an Obama guy FYI.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:20 PM
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4. you're gloating perky
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:23 PM
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10. I am simply looking at the numbers.... I have no real problem with her staying in
I just do not see anywafor her to keep up in delegate count or fundraising given what she has to do,

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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:25 PM
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12. It ain't over baby
It would be extremely foolish is she quit now and I don't see why she should.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:20 PM
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5. No way. She won't ever quit. She's got Chelsea begging superdelegates on her behalf.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:28 PM
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15. Not only Chelsea
But I'm sure the Big Dog is promising some pretty good perks to the uncommited SD's. Call me a :tinfoilhat: but I anticipate the Clinton family to pull out all the tricks in it's bag to secure this nomination.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:30 PM
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16. Exactly
NEVER underestimate the Clintons and what they're capable of.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:21 PM
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6. she has to go through Texas and Ohio
she'd be foolish not to.

I have no doubt she will. But afterwards...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:34 PM
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19. Absolutely, The longer the campaign runs on, the more excitement will build up.
DUers are thrashing & hashing, but this contest is really pumping up the electorate for a Democratic win in November.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM
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23. But, they may embarrass her too
How would that play for a future run?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:21 PM
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7. It's not over by a long-shot. Hillary will take this to the convention. n/t
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:33 PM
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18. Before then, a posse will visit her to deliver the news.. Hang it up Billary! nt
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:21 PM
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8. well it might be, but they will have to drag her out
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:22 PM
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9. I wouldn't be so quick to call Ohio if I were you.
And I certainly don't think that Sen. Clinton should be counted out at this point.

I appreciate your excitement, but it's still too close to call right now.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:25 PM
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13. Yes it is.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:24 PM
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11. It's not the vote, it's the money.
Though a chicken/egg thing can be debated. Look to WI. for answers.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:27 PM
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14. "It's not ova!! It's never ova!!" --- Hillary, quoting John Rambo
Even when she loses Texas, they'll have to drag her out of the race kicking and screaming "BUT I'M HILLARY!! HILLARY!!"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:34 PM
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20. Feministas! Why hast thou forsaken me? nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:48 PM
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24. She plans on seizing the Alamo with NY State NOW, and holding it until March 4th.
13 days of glory at the siege of the Alamo
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM
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21. She's a fighter. I admire that.
I'm not for her, but I don't think she's ever made it about her or her career.

Let's try and be grown ups in our moment of victory.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:32 PM
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17. It's not about gloating. I claim this victory for David Shuster!!!
Free Shuster!!!!
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM
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22. If he gets over 60% this is a huge victory. More to go but BIG win. Great job Obama campaign!
Thank you volunteers and staffers!
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