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Tue Feb-12-08 07:33 PM
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With Obama's win in VA, does Tim Kaine become the frontrunner for VP? |
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Personally, after tonight's victory, if I had to bet I'd bet that'd be the ticket. Southern governors are good luck, and Kaine would certainly help deliver Virginia again this November.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:34 PM
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1. Not necessarily. But I wish Obama would start floating some names. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM
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Richardson would be another strong choice.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM
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Military experience. Kaine will take over his Senate seat or appoint a Dem
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:36 PM
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5. Sen. Webb would be an excellent choice.... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 07:37 PM by RiverStone
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:38 PM
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7. Jim Webb is the best VP for either candidate. |
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Webb fucking kicks ass. The only downside is his age. He's 62 now and would be almost 71 at the end of Obama's second term. Not a logical successor there.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:39 PM
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I don't think Webb plays well nationally nor does he really comfort the base |
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I love having Webb as my senator, but he's a little on the edgy side.
If you want to bring in a Southerner who can a) help win a Southern state or two and b) not scare the hell out of the northeast, Kaine is a better choice. Or Bill Nelson.
I like Kaine because he only has one year left as governor anyway.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:05 PM
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35. Bill Nelson???? Please!!!! He votes with the Repubs half of the |
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time! I would not vote for Bill Nelson as VP! NEVER! He pisses me off on just about every vote!!!
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:39 PM
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9. I tend to agree with you on that one |
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Although Kaine is a nice guy, a VP with stellar FP exp. would be better.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:40 PM
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12. Webb is a little too loose-cannony for a Dem VP |
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Republicans can get away with crazy people as their VPs. It makes their base happy.
We can't.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM
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4. No--he needs a foreign policy/national security VP. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:42 PM
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:43 PM
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17. With Biden, I worry about a Lloyd Bentsen effect. |
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You don't want your VP pick to overshadow your Presidential pick.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:45 PM
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21. that's true -- who I'd really like is Wesley Clark but he's with Hillary |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:08 PM
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37. Might Clark be free after the votes are in? |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 08:12 PM by app_farmer_rb
I know that Clark endorsed Hillary quite a while back, but once a nominee (i.e.- Obama) has the primaries wrapped up, couldn't Clark accept then?
I would hate to think that everyone who has endorsed Clinton withhold their skills from Obama. Right now, this country of ours needs all the hope, energy, and cooperation toward progress we can muster.
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EDIT to add that Obama really needs a VP with foreign policy experience and the respect of the military. I think that Wes Clark would fit the bill ideally, and I also think his speaking style complements Obama's nicely. Richardson would also be a good choice.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:01 PM
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32. Bingo! That's the problem with Biden as VEEP -nt |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:44 PM
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18. I think Biden's a good choice too, and he'll help us win PA-- |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 07:44 PM by wienerdoggie
I think my fellow Pennsylvanians (I grew up there) would be attracted to a ticket with him on it.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:55 PM
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25. Obama/Biden '08 and America returns to the international community! |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:56 PM
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:38 PM
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6. I could live with that. Good call. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:39 PM
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because Obama/Kaine sounds like an anesthetic.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:39 PM
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11. Ooh, yeah, forgot the SNL factor. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:39 PM
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10. I think Bloomberg will be on his shortlist for VP. n/t |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:41 PM
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13. Too early to float names. But Kaine will be rewarded and was key in the victory |
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He was with Obama since the start of the presidential campaign when people wrote him off. Obama will remember that.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:42 PM
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14. He was one of the initiating factors, if I recall correctly. |
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If not, he was at least one of his first internal backers.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:57 PM
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28. Interesting, I do know he is a national co-chair |
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He will be on a short list, no idea if he will or should get tapped but loyalty like that is pretty important. Especially given how important VA might be.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:47 PM
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22. A cabinet post maybe, but not VP. I bet we'd take VA, we don't need him for that-- |
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and we do need to allay the radical-moose-limb-terra fears.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:58 PM
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29. I would be interested in seeing a general on board |
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Zinny, Clark-esque, someone with real military and foreign policy experience but they also have to be real good campaigners and have a good grasp on the economy. Clark being in Clintons camp will knock him out of the running though.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:04 PM
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34. I think Zinni is a silly suggestion. Does he know ANYTHING about politics, or policy? |
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Where does he stand on abortion and stem-cell research? What does he know about economics? It's as obvious as McCain picking Condi--"You've got a war hero? WE'VE got a war hero! You've got a black or a woman? WE'VE got a black woman!" I'd prefer to go with a tested politician, someone who knows how to fight back against smears and strategize and work with Congress--and foreign policy/national security experience would be great. I like Biden and Jack Reed.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:43 PM
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16. I've heard he's on Obama's short list n/t |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:44 PM
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19. I didn't know it, but Kaine endorsed Obama over a year ago. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:45 PM
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20. Kaine has been touring the country for Obama |
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I met him in Savannah at a rally and he seemed like a real nice guy
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:50 PM
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23. Jim Webb would be a good choice. Military background, |
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can attract Independents and maybe some Repukes.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:53 PM
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and a two-year Senator? No, that's not gonna happen.
The only Senators who have any chance of being VP are Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:07 PM
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36. Three wives. Barely beat Macaca. I don't know... |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:12 PM
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39. Like I said, I love Webb...but he can be a little scary |
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And he is more than capable of doing something insanely stupid on the campaign trail.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:17 PM
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40. I agree--I really like him, but I heard something from Tom Brokaw about him, when |
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they spent time visiting Vietnam together--he said Webb is hard to get along with, and not the most genial guy. I'm afraid he's not the right temperament for VP.
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Tue Feb-12-08 07:56 PM
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27. Nope. Obama should pick Richardson, Feingold or Napolitano. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:00 PM
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31. I like Richardson too. |
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It's a good fit when I think about it.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:03 PM
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33. Obama-Napolitano..........I can't see it. -nt |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:00 PM
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30. I REALLY like Kaine. But, I don't know if he's the best for VP. |
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He's almost too valuable as Governor of a crucial swing state.
Biden's been my top choice for Obama's VP.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:12 PM
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38. Mark Warner is the Virginian Govenerr that the Obama team has their eyes on |
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I have some inside information and if Virginians won't mind voting for Warner for both VP and Senator then he is going to be right at the top of their short list.
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:54 PM
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41. I think Mark Warner has his eyes on 2012 or 2016, personally. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 09:12 PM
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43. If he is invited to the big dance he ins't going to sit it out. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 08:54 PM
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It's a 4 year term. Kaine should serve it out.
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