Hillary yelling in El Paso MSNBC NOW

[Unsane]

[Joe the Revelator]

1. She looks weary.

[Maribelle]

19. This is getting a little too cute for words, how y'all are posting hate against hillary....

at the exact same time

like you didn't even take 60 seconds to open the op, read it, create your post, and post it.



give me a freakin break you frauds

[Joe the Revelator]

42. It takes you over a minute to open a one line thread and type two words?

Sorry about your typing speed, sport.

[Snotcicles]

78. wow. nt

[Maribelle]

79. Well, sugar, logic indicates that one has to refresh the GD-P first to find the new thread

I still think it's too cute for words.

[mckeown1128]

62. I agree with you....

I don't think Obama supporters should make posts like the OP's "yelling" is an unnecessary choice of words.

[rodeodance]

Look downstream--lots of demeaning --some sexist comments from this group.

[TexasObserver]

56. oooo, she may be weary

maybe she should try a little tenderness

[DaDooRonRon]

103. "wearing that same old shabby pantsuit"

Nah, that doesn't work.

Sorry Otis.

[racaulk]

124. One trick pony...again.

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

2. What issues is she talking about?

[high density]

5. How much she loves retroactive telecom immunity NM

[rodeodance]

can you be serious and answer my question?

[high density]

15. No, she's muted and I'm listening to Moody Blues music instead.

Sorry. :)

[Cha]

93. Moody Blues sound

good right about now!

[rodeodance]

114. ok

[greguganus]

130. Mute it and listen to Blue Oyster Cult "Don't Fear The Reaper"

Scary! :scared: :scared: :scared:

[southern_dem]

32. Standard stump speech n/t

[Aptastik]

30. Jim Beam ---> Monitor, ty

[high density]

72. hope it doesn't stain.

:hi:

[Darth_Kitten]

11. Yeah, like issues matter.

;)

[rodeodance]

60. FACT--Hillary talks issues while obama disses Hillary on his stump speeches although

he has changed his tune somewhat lately. he learns well from hillary I would say.

[nomorewhopper]

change and hope n/t

[peoli]

She says people cant afford health insurance so she needs to garnish their wages so they can get it

[Skip Intro]

50. did you expect an honest answer?

all the O crowd knows how to do is attack

[K Gardner]

3. I'm having deja vu. And I had to mute my TV again. Sheesh.

[Caribbean Eyes]

8. Geez !!!

Geez here we go again, not even with another win this nonsense against Hillary will not stop

[Whisp]

76. this great new idea about energy independence she is talking about...

I heard that from Carter back in the 70's.
Bill Clinton had an opportunity to work on that, he didn't.

Now Hillary is makin git sound like a fresh new idea, like George did last round?

what a farce.

[GoldieAZ49]

4. Its ok for her to yell tonight

she didn't even get 40%

yeah, she is part of the El Paso family starting RIGHT NOW

don't mention you never expected to need their vote

[Unsane]

17. no kidding

[Occam Bandage]

6. Poor thing. She looks and sounds exhausted.

[boricua79]

14. her voice is croaking... NT

[Joe the Revelator]

7. She's reading with a card in front of her face

[Joe the Revelator]

10. She's acting strange tonight....now she's going negative.

I don't blame her, but she is.

[boricua79]

9. let her scream...YEAAAARGH! NT

[rodeodance]

100. that is a sexist comment---When Obama talkes loud--he is on fire. ==never screams!

[tabasco]

105. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha.

GET. A. GRIP.

[rodeodance]

113. Its a term applied primarily to women in a demeaning fashion. YOU "GET. A. GRIP." and try be polite

[tabasco]

121. "Yelling" = sexist.

Got it.

[King Coal]

145. He's got ya there, Rodeodance.

[boricua79]

133. you can try that with me all you want

I don't get scared by PC feminazi talk. I've never seen Obama go "YEAAARGH". And that's human nature. if you tend to like a person, you tend to give them more of a pass. Nothing to do with sexuality.

[DeepModem Mom]

12. That is a large venue, I know it well. Everytime she speaks, someone accuses her of yelling --

I call sexism. Sorry!

[boricua79]

16. wasn't it a man who first lost his candidacy to a scream? (dean)

[DeepModem Mom]

35. Yes, in a manner equally unfair. nt

[boricua79]

40. ok, I'll give you that

frankly, I still don't get why that was such a big issue. Can't Americans take some enthusiasm from their leaders?

[Unsane]

41. it wasn't based on sexism, though

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

66. Truthism.

[Darth_Kitten]

29. A woman who won't give up............

They aren't used to a strong, articulate woman having the guts to fight the good fight.

:sarcasm:

[sandnsea]

36. I prefer her yelling

I can't stand when she goes into that soft fake voice that I've never heard until this campaign. I wish she would have just been herself and told the country to deal with it. That's what we're looking for.

[springhill]

122. Soft fake voice?

You fit right in with Matthews and the "I know what she's thinking" crowd. You ought to be a journalist, that's the kind of drivel I'm used to hearing and reading lately.

[sandnsea]

125. Maybe that's the voice she found

at 62 years old. I've never heard it before.

[TheDonkey]

38. because the dean scream was also blown up because he was female

[LucyParsons]

13. she's wearing a UTEP Miners lapel pin

ha ha ha ha

I hate the Texas pandering

As a Texan, it makes me sick.

[boricua79]

25. watch out, she might "cry" on you guys NT

[Bluebear]

28. Well, aren't you nasty?

[boricua79]

33. hey, I didn't cry twice for political gain and "find" my voice

right before a primary. Direct your anger at the plastic DLC mannequin running for the Democratic candidacy. Thank you!

[Darth_Kitten]

75. She's a full-blooded human being. Sorry if that bothers you.

At least Hillary can show emotion.

[DaDooRonRon]

108. On cue, even

Quite the talent.

(disclaimer: don't like either one of them - find them both to be panderers, but she is so fake and bought and paid for for she should campaign with "sponsored by" stenciled across her back)

[boricua79]

134. oh yeah...sure...she cried for real

and then she did it JUST before another primary...and it was genuine too.

You're a little naive about political theatrics.

[rodeodance]

102. do you know how utterly stupid you come across??

[boricua79]

135. in your brain.

When you cry twice right before primaries, it starts to sound like political theatrics and less genuine.

But I guess pointing that out makes me sound stupid. :sarcasm:

[King Coal]

146. He's got ya there, BlueBear.

[rodeodance]

104. no-brainer comment

[elixir]

61. You call it pandering. I call it smart campaigning. What would you say if Obama wore it?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

71. "Go Miners?"

:shrug:

[NoPasaran]

68. Sylvestre Reyes pinned it on her

As a Democrat, you make me sick

[judaspriestess]

111. oh and Obama isn't pandering?

from another Texan it makes me sick too

[springhill]

123. I have had it with this board anymore........

There is only hate and vitrol; everything she says and does is analyzed as fake and pandering. You are as bad as the republicans and extreme right wing in vilifying her. Why come here for this when I could just turn on Fox news? You make me sick.

[rodeodance]

148. Get used to it--as Obama is there also "pandering" Ha HA

[Renew Deal]

18. I actually agree.

She's getting loud.

[Levgreee]

23. Yeah, she's experimenting with her voice, and I don't know if it is working right for her

[boricua79]

27. she's "finding her voice"? NT

[Hieronymus]

57. A little late to experimenting with her voice and campaign, as well.

[Eurobabe]

26. I think subconsciously she is

crushed. Think about it.

[goodhue]

20. Last stand in west Texas

How fitting

[TheDonkey]

21. Is this sweeping oratory? What platform specifics is she talking about???

Hmmmmmmm

[Moh96]

22. Did you hear "I let the next President talk to you" get a reality check LOL

[Moh96]

31. maybe she should cry tomorrow on TV, it seemed to help her in NH

[Darth_Kitten]

37. I bet all the Obama supporters are looking forward to spring break?

n/t

[rodeodance]

101. immature, childish demeaning coments about Hillary tonight form so many

[SOS]

150. People over 45 go on spring break?

Maryland, 59% of Democratic primary voters over 45 years of age.
Virginia, 60% of Democratic primary voters over 45 years of age.

The "kids" crypto-insult is passé.

[Darth_Kitten]

49. It's not a GAME, kiddie.

Grow up and see a bit of the world.

[Moh96]

55. Kiddie?!!!!!! LOL

[Hepburn]

24. IMO....she sounds very desperate.

There seems to be a new edge in her voice....desperation? Or maybe just plain fucking PANIC!

[goodgd_yall]

106. Maybe your projection?

I don't know WTF you're talking about. I don't hear it.

[jefferson_dem]

34. I admire her sheer determination...

Not being a hater. But she looks and sounds like a beaten candidate.

[nomorewhopper]

48. she knows its over (sad) and it's a hard dream to let go.

she's going to tough it out for a few more weeks, give it all she can and hope for a miracle. but deep down she knows it is gone, and i think you can tell

[Tatiana]

39. Raise the minimum wage to $9.50?

Uh-oh, girlfriend is going POPULIST!!!!!!

She's doing pretty well, but she looks really tired.

[democrat2thecore]

43. She Just LIED about working for the "DNC" 35 years ago

She said she was in Texas 35 years ago working for the Democratic National Committee registering voters. Anybody that knows the history of Bill and Hillary know they went to Texas initially to register voters and then run George McGovern's presidential campaign in Texas.

The use of "Democratic National Committee" instead of "George McGovern" is so typical of the calculating parsing of words with her. Shame! George McGovern was nobody to be ashamed of!!

So typical.

[democrat2thecore]

59. I'm still stunned by Clinton's ability to misstate the facts to her advantage

That was so blatant.

[tabasco]

110. She was ashamed to mention George McGovern's name.

McGovern was a WWII war hero and would have made a great President.

Typical anti-liberalism from the DLC tool Clinton

[David Zephyr]

44. Where's Patti Solis?

?

[rodeodance]

92. as per PBS Lehrer news hr--she is still working in the campaign.

[stevietheman]

What happened to her delightful cackle? heh. n/t

n/t

[theHandpuppet]

90. Yelling? Cackling? Screaming? Crying?

Do I denote an unsavory pattern around here?

Shameful. I'm ashamed to see this kind of crap on a Democratic forum.

[CalGator]

45. I am ashamed

I had to turn to Fox News to get primary coverage that wasn't airing HRC's stump screech.

Sad...

[rodeodance]

67. I am ashamed at so many demeaning comments on this thread about about Hillary.

[King Coal]

144. He's got ya there, Calgator.

[JimGinPA]

46. Somebody Gave Her The "Clap Clap, Point Point" Memo Too

She threw a wave or two in. And that little boy with the flowers in the Mexican outfit - Come on!!!

:eyes:

[LostInAnomie]

47. She's following the typical Hillary speech formula.

1. Mention a topic
2. Say two sentences about the topic at a normal volume
3. Yell the next two sentences
4. Wait for applause
5. Repeat steps 1-4

It's the same EVERY speech.

[Caribbean Eyes]

69. Oh well

Maybe she should just drop out and go hug Obama, if she did not speak tonight most of you would of said something negative, she is speaking and it still is negative, I would of thought some of you would of been partying in the street rather than watching Hillary on Tv, guess even with all the Obama success some of you are still worried of what tomorrow will bring, be very careful of what you wish for because in the end you will have to live with the results if it does not come out as some of expect it.

[Unsane]

51. aaaaaand MSNBC cuts out. The speech is bogus.

[ellisonz]

52. She looks angry.

[theHandpuppet]

115. No she didn't

Stop hallucinating.

[ellisonz]

128. Yes she did

If I was the anointed one and I lost 3 primaries after Feb. 5 I'd be angry too.

Stop being in denial.

[greguganus]

131. Bill's gonna get an ass whoopin' when this is all over.

Somebody's gotta pay. I hope he has an escape plan already set up.

[XemaSab]

132. You know what I think it is?

I think it's the "I should be planning my first hundred days in office and instead I'm yelling through a microphone in a gym in El Paso pretending like I'm happy to be in El Paso and wearing a stupid pin and talking in front of a crowd of 500 people who are looking at me like they've never seen a politician before and I have to spend the next three goddamn weeks in Texas where you can't even get a decent chardonnay" look.

She looks like she's really hanging on....

And meanwhile Barack is speaking to 17,000 people in a STADIUM in Wisconsin. :D

[sfam]

53. Did Hillary ever concede in this speech? I must have missed it...

Did she ever say congrats to Obama?

[TheDonkey]

65. The states do not matter why concede? Just a fairy tale

and all that other poor sport type jargin her campaign can shluck.

[rodeodance]

54. Why do so so many Obama folk start threads with such demeaning tones?

[Bluebear]

58. It's "hopeful" rhetoric.

[democrat2thecore]

64. No -- it's a primary campaign.

And it's both sides. One of Hillary's biggest negative thread starters (Proud2B) was finally tombstoned today.

[Bluebear]

73. Primary campaigns have to be so vile? What a shame.

[democrat2thecore]

80. Go complain here too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4562164

Or is it you're only outraged about the vileness of the anti-HILLARY threads?

[Bluebear]

81. I voted for John Edwards.

[psychopomp]

95. Really? That is great news

I rarely use the ignore feature but that user's obnoxious trolling was too much for me. There are one or two more users that I am waiting to see meet their fitting end, here...

[rodeodance]

85. oops--I forgot

[NoBorders]

63. So what was that all about?

Just an opportunity get some prime-time TV coverage I suppose? Nice play I guess.

[rodeodance]

70. What a shameful thread--demeaning comments.

[democrat2thecore]

74. Do you post the same anger about the threads so demeaning towards Sen. Obama? -nt

[DeepModem Mom]

83. I am the proposer of the DU Obama group and continue to support him and I am sickened...

by the fact that every time Hillary speaks in a large venue a thread pops up saying she is yelling or screaming. It is clearly sexist to me; if others disagree, that's fine. Once, a thread popped up saying she was shouting at Tim Russert.

[rodeodance]

99. it just goes on and on. never changes.

[rodeodance]

97. no that is your job.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

77. Yet you kicked it 6 times.

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

84. irrelevant---

[JNelson6563]

143. That just cracks me up

If I see a thread that turns my stomach I resist the temptation to comment rather than kicking it back to the top of the page again and again and again and.....

Oy.

Julie

[milkyway]

82. She's pissing all over Wisconsin. I thought she was a fighter?

[rodeodance]

87. How is she doing that. Bill will be there, chelsey is there. she is there Sat and ads on her

health care plan runing in major markets.

[milkyway]

120. She won't be there until Saturday? It's Tuesday now. 74 delegates in what should

be a competitive state. Well, it won't be anymore. She just told Wisconsin they're too small to matter to her.

I thought she was running for President of the United States, not President of the Selected States.

[theHandpuppet]

86. I actually watched the speech. She wasn't yelling.

And if you think that was "yelling" then Obama is yelling through my TV screen right now.

[rodeodance]

89. thanks, nice to hear as I am not able to watch.

[theHandpuppet]

94. There' a certain language peppered throughout this thread...

... that many women will recognize all to well. It's really telling and incredibly disappointing.

[rodeodance]

96. I noticed--like the OP--yelling.!!--note there is now a Obama is on fire thread!

[theHandpuppet]

98. Oh, it's much more than just one word...

Yelling, screaming, crying, cackling... yeah, the language is very tellling.

[rodeodance]

107. you got em.

[rodeodance]

109. here is another : "maybe she should try a little tenderness".........

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56. oooo, she may be weary

maybe she should try a little tenderness

[OzarkDem]

88. Geaux Hillary!

You must be doing well, the right wingers are complaining!

[EndElectoral]

91. Yelling, or crying after the MD, DC, VA results?

[robbedvoter]

138. Yesss! Crying! You kicked her ass and she's crying - like a girl! yeahy us!

Now let's get a keg and measure our penises....

[SaveOurDemocracy]

112. Is it possible for Obama Supporters to enjoy his...

victories without the constant attacks on his opponent?

He just finished saying that this great change has to begin with all of us ... that we ARE our brother's keeper. I don't see his supporters here living up to his words, and professed ideals. I don't see his supporters here rising above the hatred and division that he insists is so necessary. What I see are cheerleaders, serial bashers and some who simply enjoy being cruel.

[rodeodance]

116. nicely stated

[krabigirl]

117. No, it seems as if some of them embody the politics of Hate.

disguised as Hope and Unity, of course.

She wasn't yelling, btw. She just isn't as good of a speaker as Obama is.

[rodeodance]

118. yah--who woulda thought--the obamacampers not following their leader on HOPE.

[robbedvoter]

141. Always lack of grace - throughout the campaign. They are better than us -

cus Tweety & Schuster told them so.

[robbedvoter]

139. It is NOT actually. MSM told you for months you are good, we are bad. You feel superior

You got the GOP treatment - you are now acting like GOP-ers. It's human nature - and you shall remain bullies untill they'll kick you in the nuts.

[my3boyz]

119. She had a large crowd though. That surprised me...

I don't like her and I would never vote for her (did not feel that way before but changed mainly because of the way they attacked Obama with lies) BUT I have to give her props for going in there and at least pretending to be into it for her supporters. I would have been at home in a dark room sulking. She does hold her head up and keep going.

[Tarheel_Dem]

126. it was a huge crowd, but I don't think it was necessarily a Hillary

event. I heard on MSNBC that it was some sort of celebration, but not necessarily a Hillary campaign event.

[robbedvoter]

142. Of course. There are no Hillary voters. It was all smoke and mirrors.

All America adores Obama. Everyone elese - simply doesn't exist. I know so, because the teevee told me so.

[Tarheel_Dem]

147. Way to distort what I actually said, but then that's par for the course

for the Clinton campaign these days. :eyes:

[AtomicKitten]

127. She does better in smaller venues when she can use her inside voice. (nt)

[robbedvoter]

140. It's the lack of a penis that causes yealing. and screaming. and crying.

[AtomicKitten]

149. sexist!

[kerstin]

129. I put much more stock in debates than in speeches.

That's where her fluency with the issues and nuanced approaches to them really come through.

[Orsino]

136. But is she *screaming*?

Or shrieking shrilly, maybe? :eyes:

[robbedvoter]

137. keep hate alive! it's how you got those voters after all...the indies, the GOP-ers