Hillary worries me because she seems to win in only very blue states

[Quixote1818]

what good will that do us in the General election? :shrug: Obama is going to win those states anyway. And if Hillary gets blown out in purple states like Virginia then she may get blasted in November. Obama seems the safer bet for the General Election by a mile.

On Edit: If Obama could only win in red states we might have a problem but he has shown he can also take states like Minnesota, Connecticut, Delaware, Washington and swing states like Missouri and Iowa.

[Radical Activist]

1. But your post makes sense.

Aren't we supposed to be counterintuitive about this?

[Cant trust em]

2. Obama pulled in more votes in Virginia tonight

than all three of the GOP candidates combined. Quite a statistic.

[MADem]

3. And Obama wins only in states that McCain will take without breaking a sweat.

That's a problem, even if you don't see it. He hasn't proven that he will win those blue states, even if he asserts that all of Clinton's supporters will follow him like lemmings. They just might not. Especially if he doesn't bother to ASK them for their vote.

[Quixote1818]

7. Sorry, both Hillary and Obama would crush McCain and his 100 year war in Iraq. nt

[MADem]

17. Like Kerry couldn't lose?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/03/elec04.prez.main/index.html

(CNN) -- Building on his momentum, Sen. John Kerry picked up five of the seven states holding contests for the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday. Sen. John Edwards kept his White House dream alive with a win in South Carolina and a surprisingly strong showing in Oklahoma.

[thunder rising]

8. That makes no sense. For the Bush 29% to even acknowledge a Dem is blasphemy.

They will not even speak the "devils" name much less vote that way. Not even in jest.

This is real, it's across party lines and those voters will vote Obama in November.

[MADem]

16. We'll see. I saw this same kind of Kerry Hubris around this time four years ago.

And we saw how that worked out.

[Quixote1818]

11. Actually Obama has done very well in many blue states too

as I listed below. If he only won in red states you might have a point but he seems to win all different types in all parts of the country.

[thunder rising]

4. Veeeerrrry Interesting!! (Shults would say) good point!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

5. You do realize these are democratic primaries, right?

With this line of reasoning, why even run a candidate?

John McCain has won more Blue States than Hillary or Obama.

What happens in primaries is not especially predictive

[Quixote1818]

10. But Obama has shown he can win in very blue states too

Minnesota, Washington, Connecticut, Maine, Delaware and swing states like Iowa and Missouri. If all he was winning was red states you might have a point but he has shown he can win north, south, east, west, red and blue.

[Sparkly]

21. Among Democrats, yes. nt

[Sparkly]

6. I don't think the "red/blue" divide matters much in the primary.

It's about the number of people who'd vote Democrat vs. Republican in the general election that matters.

[IDemo]

12. Would comparing the numbers for the winning Dem vs Rep in each state be useful?

I'd like to see a table comparing the total number of voters for the frontrunner of each party, by state (since we can't assume all members of either party will vote in the GE).

[meow mix]

9. showing strength behind enemy lines is horrible!!

i guess?
i dont get that one...

[Quixote1818]

13. LOL!

:rofl:

[AJH032]

14. she'd be running against McCain

not Obama. Don't compare two quite different things.

[Quixote1818]

15. Having less support among Democrats in purple states will most certainly

carry over to the general to some extent. If voter X didn't vote for Hillary in the Democratic primary are you seriously suggesting voter X is more likely to vote for Hillary over a Republican than he/she would vote for Obama over the same Republican? That is very unlikely!

[MADem]

19. You're assuming all those "crossover voters" -- the GOPs and the Indys--

are going to stay with the Dems in the general. That is a major error, to make that assumption.

Sometimes, those guys like to "shape the field" for the opposition, and then they go back to their own preferred team.

Remember, most of the GOP primaries are closed, so the only place a right leaning Indy can play the "Fuck YOU" game is in OUR primary.

[cottonseed]

18. Bingo - this stuff about treating primaries like a GE was nuts.

Obama gets the BLUE states, hence, their bluishness. Obama's appeal in red/purple states is the kicker.

[Bonobo]

20. B-But I thought this was "black is white and up is down forum"!? nt