Is Hillary going to concede VA and DC? Right now she's only going negative in Texas.

[Joe the Revelator]

Hasn't conceded, congratulated or even mentioned tonight's primarys.

[Kittycat]

1. That's her MO. Nothing new.

Did you expect a concession?

[Olney Blue]

2. I'm listening to the speech, and she is talking about the American dream.

[Joe the Revelator]

8. She's mentioned "All hat no cattle" "the RIGHT decision this campaign" "You can't dream for change"

and still no concession on tonights primarys

[stahbrett]

27. So she is talking about Barack Obama? ;-) (eom)

[stahbrett]

28. After Obama wins nomination, Clintons will say that they predicted it all along, wasn't a surprise

:D

[lisa58]

3. She did the same thing in Tennessee...

...after South Carolina - it borders on delusional

[babylonsister]

4. When was the last time she conceded anything? I honestly don't

remember.

[K Gardner]

12. If she conceded everytime she lost, that's all she'd be doing. Much better to continue acting like

she's winning everything.. kind of like the faux Florida Victory party.

[rodeodance]

51. oh crap--Do you make up the rules of the primary season. WHO says anyone has to give

a speech and concede.

Get real!

[JTFrog]

71. The last time? Probably when they brought out Monica's blue dress.

But she only conceded because it was her husband's indiscretion, not hers.

[Maribelle]

73. Some people have been accused of having their noses stuck in Clinton's zipper.

But by dragging out the blue dress, it leads me to believe one's appetite might be enticed by something on the dress.


Of course, I am sure you would not fall into either category.

[JTFrog]

74. I was just stating a fact. I have never seen her concede at any other time.

She stood up and lied for her husband until the proof was presented to the public.

I don't give a fuck where Bill put his penis. I did, however, care how they dealt with the situation at the time.

She stood up and lied for Mr. Bush and the proof has been presented to the public. She certainly hasn't conceded when it comes to her IWR vote.

[Maribelle]

75. You're wrong again. Hillary did give way to her IWR vote saying she would not have voted that way

had she known then what she knows now.

Perhaps you do not know the definition of 'concede"?

[JTFrog]

76. I understand perfectly. Do you?

When she said these words, I knew exactly what she meant. It's a direct quote and she was speaking directly to me:

"If the most important thing to any of you is choosing someone who did not cast that vote or has said his vote was a mistake, then there are others to choose from," Mrs. Clinton told an audience in Dover, N.H., in a veiled reference to two rivals for the nomination, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

[Maribelle]

78. I believe I understand even better than you, by far.

Arguably, the worst airline accident in history, where hundreds were killed, would not have happened had the pilot of the Pan Am jet as it taxied along the runway been given accurate information.

This pilot did not make a mistake. But if he only were given a chance at a redo, he certainly would not have done what he did at the time.


http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetGOJG/270377.htm

[JTFrog]

79. I'm sure you do believe you are right, but why don't you believe her? Why would you present

an analogy when she already spoke on the matter directly herself?

[Maribelle]

80. lol The analogy was for you.

Sheesh

[JTFrog]

83. The analogy was quite faulty.

It appears to be given more as justification to discard Hillary's own words.

That pilot had to make split second decisions based on his lifetime experience and under extreme conditions.

Clinton did not have to act on a split seconds notice. She had access to far more information about the situation in Iraq and had been witness firsthand to her husband's tactic to use the hyped-up threat of weapons of mass destruction to justify his sanctions. I have no doubt in my mind that Mrs. Clinton cast a vote for war, not for more inspections. Some proof of that can be found in her floor speech wherein while calling for more inspections she discredits the inspectors as possibly having their own motives to skew information.

I guess you do understand it better than me, because I'm still just sitting here shaking my head.

[Maribelle]

84. Wrong. The pilot made his decision on the info from the tower.

And it was incorrect. And it is proven that this is the fault of the accident.

[JTFrog]

85. Again,

that was information he had to process without time or means to verify the information from any other source.

As stated above, I do not buy into faulty intelligence as her justification for her vote for war.

[chascarrillo]

5. Haven't heard anything neg... whoops.

Typed too soon!

[Skip Intro]

6. How is she going negative?

[Eurobabe]

7. Oh, she's slamming hope

Not good. She does sound very shrill. I think she is boiling inside.

[WolverineDG]

10. Yes, hope is bad

very bad

dg

[Cha]

21. Especially when the damn Hope

has won Virginia!

[Renew Deal]

25. Hopeless Hillary

is at it again.

[bigtree]

33. she's transcending hope.

[Eurobabe]

42. how does one transcend hope?

that sounds negative. :hi:

[bigtree]

47. by working to make it a reality

[Eurobabe]

50. I look forward to Obama as the president who will do that.

C'ya.

[IDemo]

55. You must let the hope transcend you first, Grasshopper

[DJ13]

9. Concession speech = admission of being wrong on IWR

Not her style.

[Franks Wild Years]

15. She is....

....one of the most false people I have ever heard. I love her 'concern face/voice' that she put on a few minutes ago when talking about the concerns that people up and down the country bring to her. I could actually *see* the insincerity drip from her face.

[Cha]

24. I'm so disgusted with hilary

and have been for the last 6 years that I can't even watch 'er.

Welcome Aboard the DU, Frank~

[polpilot]

59. Her head bobbing reminds me of those bobbing heads on dashboards.

[Skidmore]

68. LOL! My husband said that last night while we were watching.

Ask me why she does that all the time.

[HeraldSquare212]

11. "I would require Congress can't raise it's own salary without raising min wage"

Has she introduced a bill like that in the Senate yet?

[Thrill]

13. Nothing new from the sore loser

[rodeodance]

49. nothing new from you either--other than your usual demeaning crap!

[Blue_In_AK]

14. How do you get going negative out of it?

She's offering up the usual "American dream" stuff and working hard to make things happen. So she said we've got to do more than "hope" for it -- do you disagree?

Ed. Ooops, sorry, I didn't realize this was a "hate on Hillary" thread. I take back everything I said. :blush:

Disclaimer: I am not a Hillary Bot -- I don't care at this point.

[emilyg]

19. I fully agree. She sounds good.

[Cha]

26. hilary has earned her crap..

even though you don't care.

[Blue_In_AK]

30. No, I realize that...

She's far from my favorite Democrat -- I just don't get all the Obama hoopla, but that's just me. Carry on.

[Cha]

58. I guess you'd have to be there

from the start or for a few months in my case. I'm excited as all get out!

[Eurobabe]

29. Blue, she got in her pot shots

albeit subtley. Sorry to say. I am willing to listen to her, but she is increasingly sounding negative.

[Blue_In_AK]

34. Maybe I left too soon.

I got kind of bored and returned to the ever-amusing DU for a spell. :) Seriously, I AM NOT A HILLARY BOT. I'm not just not an Obamaton, either, so I feel it's my duty to go around taking potshots at everybody.

I will support your candidate if he's our nominee. I just would have much preferred Edwards/Biden/Dodd/Richardson/Kucinich/Gravel. Once again I'm a "looser."

[Eurobabe]

35. well

notice my avatar. :hug:

I too, will vote for whomever gets the nomination.

[Blue_In_AK]

36. Joe was my FIRST choice, actually.

I KNEW we were on the same side, 48. :hug:

[Eurobabe]

40. great minds and lens toting camera lovers

think alike. :hi:

[Blue_In_AK]

60. Love ya, 48...

We've still got months until November -- maybe I'll catch Obama fever before it's all over. Can't make any promises, though. We'll still be friends, though, right?

[Eurobabe]

63. Friends 4EVA!

No matter what. :hug:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. But those states don't matter. after all, having her campaign headquarters in

virginia was just a mistake. Had she known then what she knows now, she would have picked a non-caucus, non-black, non-male, non-white collar, non-blue collar, non-independent, non- switch-over GOP state.

[Kahuna]

17. She's grabbing the headline for tomorrow's paper in TX from Obama's wins..

Or at least she's trying.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

48. She's trying nt

[TexasObserver]

61. She didn't get the headlines. She'll get a mention, but Obama gets the headline.

Front page, top story, Houston Chronicle:

Feb. 12, 2008, 9:28PM
Obama, McCain sweep Potomac Primary


By DAVID ESPO
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama powered past Hillary Rodham Clinton in the race for Democratic convention delegates Tuesday, scoring outsized primary victories in Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia on a night of triumph.

[Cha]

18. She won't either...if she doesn't mention it..

it doesn't exist. Oh, she'd be quite the little president wouldn't she?

[Joe the Revelator]

20. That was really just pathetic

No class at all.

[kypp]

22. Agreed.

[Blue_In_AK]

23. You guys crack me up.

:rofl: Catty, catty, catty.

[goodgd_yall]

31. I don't hear anything negative---She's talking about what she's going to do.

Why are you misleading people? I know you support Obama, but can't you at least make an attack that's truthful?

[sfam]

38. We aren't talking about her being negative, we're saying she should have...

conceded that she lost VA at least. Normally, the candidate who loses the night comes on first and says, "congrats to the winner" or something to that effect...

[rodeodance]

43. seems to me no one concedes unless it is called

[sfam]

54. Exactly. Virginia WAS called...nt

[rodeodance]

57. she is on a stump speech. get real.---There are no rules saying any candidate

has to concede--this is primary and goes for Obama also

[rodeodance]

41. Several threads on her speech tonight--majority either demeaned or mocked her. shameful

[bigtree]

32. campaign speech. movin on to Texas . . . . . . .

right on!

[WinkyDink]

37. It's primary season. What's all this about "conceding"??

[rodeodance]

52. Its the Obamacamp new meme--Did you see how many threads today about conceding? Bizzare!!

[MonkeyFunk]

39. She's giving a campaign speech

the notion that each and every primary gets a concession speech is a fiction made up this year by Hillary-haters.

[rodeodance]

46. yes, --but thread after thread and post have been belittling her about this--or her voice or

or hair. I think I have had it.

[Drunken Irishman]

66. You don't have to concede, but at least congratulate the person.

It's called class. I think Hillary has it, but she's letting this campaign get in the way of it. Don't gloss over something because you got your butt kicked.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

69. I agree with Drunken Irishman here

She could at least congratulate him on winning the Potomac Primary. If she did that, she could look a little bit better going into Texas (if she still chooses to ignore Wisconsin and Hawaii).

She's not so that makes her a sore loser, IMO.

[HeraldSquare212]

44. She wants to repeal NCLB, which she voted for.

"I have years of experience being wrong."

[rodeodance]

53. She said that long time ago. She is smart and knows it is not working.

[TheWraith]

45. She never admit losses, she just runs to the next state. NT

[rodeodance]

56. so you all make up rules that she is suppose to follow? Where does it say that

candidates have to concede?---This is a primary. get real!

[kurth]

62. It's a cult rule: The vanquished must kneel and submit to The Anointed One

[rodeodance]

64. gawds--I do not know those rules. guess i leaned one tonight.

[comtec]

67. IF that were teh case Barak would have been on his knees

Since the M$M and the like, had decided that they preferred having Hilary in office, over Mr. Obama.
Thankfully that is not the case.
I started out most enamored with Hilary, then I kept ONLY hearing Dennis Kusinich saying the things >I< was thinking that needed to be done. Simple, but painful things that would in the long run to great things for our country. Hell all we have to do is ENFORCE the tax codes on the rich and corporations and we'd be solvent very quickly. (not paying down the debt, but at least no more deficit spending).

It's not that I'd think MRS Rodem-Clinton (sorry can't spell, and I'm sick of seeing her name as MS, when she IS married! THAT is really disrespectful imho) would suck as a president, it's that I think Obama would have more radical, sweeping ideas. That that's something we NEED desperately right now.

The Clintons are good "mostly stable but could be better" administrators. Bill did amazing things in the 90's but he also did some very stupid things. i don't blame the DOT COM bust on him, that was stupid investors who thought money would magically appear and make them billionaires. The reality is that new tech and ideas take time, and the DOT COMmers were not given that time. great things came out of that boom, but the expectations were unrealistic, and the reality that it WOULD take time for many of these ideas to come to fruition is what caused the investors to pull out and collapse the economy like they did.

The fact that our jobs were sent whole sale to India and beyond did not help, especially when * practically made it mandatory for that to happen, all the "21st century jobs" that were supposed to replace working at McDonald's evaporated overnight, literally in some instances.

Hilary would have been great to clean up the mess of the 1st term of *, but I don't think she really has the vision to properly clean up after him now. maybe as a VP, or in 8 years she'll make a fine president,but she's come off as corporatist and we can't afford that right now.


I'm not crazy about obama either. But since I have to choose between the two, I suppose i am supporting him.

[FrenchieCat]

65. I watched her speech......and although, like McCain, they have attempted to

syphon off whatever each felt might work for them from Obama's message, it ain't really working.

She's trying to articulate about dreams and hope and using "we" now........but her style looks forced and fake....and unauthentic. She said she found her voice, but she lost it again....and her message keeps changing based on what Obama is saying and doing......leaving him to look like the leader, and her; a cheap imitation that is almost laughable.

I kind of feel sorry for her, because it is painfully obvious to anyone paying attention, that she just isn't affective in the format.

This just wasn't her time, like she thought. It was ours.

[Mezzo]

70. The people of Nevada are still waiting on Barack Obama's concession speech

does that mean they're even?

[hayu_lol]

72. Yet another DU thread that would get by the mods at...

freerepublic.

The Obama party in full-throated cry: A party of independents, Republicans, evangelicals, and conservative voters.

[goodhue]

77. She will ignore them because they don't count in her desperate calculus

[GoldieAZ49]

81. concede?????? LOL

she doesn't even acknowledge that they VOTED.

She was SPANKED! Couldn't even get 40% of the vote, hell she doesn't need to concede she can just go home.

[cooolandrew]

82. Would Hillary snub Barack.Tell me HRC supporters it's not true, I refuse to believe it...