How many Obama supporters also voted for Bush or Reagan?

[OzarkDem]

Just curious as to how many of you have drank the kool aid before.

[XemaSab]

1. I drank the Howard Dean kool aid.

In retrospect, it was the taste of 50-state VICTORY. :D

[Alexander]

2. As did I. Never voted for Bush or Reagan, though.

[OzarkDem]

7. 2000 or before

[OzarkDem]

5. Before then

[XemaSab]

9. Lemme think.....mmmm...going WAY BACK....wait... here's something...

I drank the Al Gore kool aid too! :D

[lligrd]

13. I Miss Gore And Dean

loved both of them. Remember how Gore used to roll his eyes at Bush. I loved it. How right he was.

[OzarkDem]

22. Not old enough to vote before then?

[XemaSab]

35. Hold on.... you're making me pull out teh time machine here.... ummmmmm....

1996... 1996... let's see... I'm seeing a short Lebanese consumer advocate....

Holy shit! It's NADER!

Why would I have voted for Nader?

Whoa... I'm REMEMBERING! :cry:

Back when I was 14 I was a precinct leader for Bill Clinton, and he was *SO* not the Liberal I thought I was campaigning for, that I got really, really ANGRY....

Angry enough to lodge a protest vote in the California election in 1996! Wow.

Thanks for bringing up old memories. :toast:

[democrattotheend]

41. Me too

Drank the Howard Dean kool-aid, and was afraid to get involved with Obama's campaign for a while because I was afraid I'd get my heart broken again. It wasn't until after Iowa that I felt ready to get myself emotionally invested in the campaign. I know that probably sounds bad, but I work in politics and have to be able to support the eventual nominee, so I was afraid to care too much about the primaries for fear of having a hard time doing my work once we had a nominee.

I wasn't old enough to vote for Reagan, but can't imagine I would have. Definitely never voted for Bush!

[angie_love]

3. I voted for Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, this will be the first time

a candidate I actually like has a chance at winning. yay!! BTW, I also voted for Hillary for Senate 2x.

[TSIAS]

4. OK Hillarite

I see you're painting Obama as a Reaganite again.

FYI, I voted for neither. Wasn't eligible to vote, but I despise the politics of both Bush 41 and Reagan.

[wake.up.america]

31. Obama should scutinized as should every candidate. What does he bring to the table is I want ...

to know in terms of tangibles. Bush and Raygun talked about lofty goals, goals for which I didn't care Obama has good ideas, if he can bring them to fruition. What exactly does he want to do? All I hear is hope and change. Many people want action now!!! Like most politicians, Obama talks too generally for me.

[lligrd]

6. I've Voted Democratic Since I Was 18

Straight ticket so far. Any more questions?

[OzarkDem]

8. When was that?

[lligrd]

10. More Than All My Fingers And Toes

put together. And I have had no amputations.

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. I did vote for Hitler in 33 but regretted my vote

An Edwards supporter would never throw shit out like you did
if you really understand corporate power and who is involved with it.

[OzarkDem]

17. Like this?

A list of Obama's economic advisors....

Austan Goolsbee: U. of Chicago neoclassicist and “single payer universal health care critic claiming "it doesn't follow free market principles"
David Cutler: Harvard economist who believes that high health costs are good for the economy
Jeffrey Liebman: another Harvard economist and former Clinton adviser who favors privatizing social security

http://www.economicpopulist.org/

Having worked in corporate America for 20 years, I understand corporate power far more than you do.

[lligrd]

20. I Must Have Missed The Memo Where Hillary Is Supporting

Single Payer. And when did Obama say he supported privatizing Social Security?

Hillary, on the other hand, DID vote for the IWR. How do you support that?

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. Edwards economic advisor was not much better or worse.

I myself didn't like him and I supported Edwards.
HIllary's is even worse.

http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Leo_Hindery

I'm afraid they are all in that camp of neo-liberalism

[OzarkDem]

27. Obama's are much worse

There's a big difference betweeen neo-liberal economists and free market economists.

There's a big difference between reforming our health care system and letting the free market rule it.

Don't pump sunshine up my skirt. You know the difference too.

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. I'm glad you took you Edwards sign off during this thread

Hillary's advisors are worse than Obama and Edwards put together in my studies
But you know that is another thread and it is late.


It is an important issue that you brought up that needs a discourse.

[newmajority]

12. Dean in 2004. Gore in 2000

Some guy named Bubba something or other in 1992 & 96.

Dukakis in 88, though I knew he didn't have a prayer.

Mondale in 84 was my first vote. Didn't think he had a chance either, but I was proud to use my first vote against Ronald Reagan :patriot:

My only "Republican" vote in a presidential election was for McCain in the 2000 primary. It was a strategic vote against the Chimp, nothing more.

[donheld]

14. Are you saying If we voted for Obama, we must be repubicans?

[lligrd]

18. I Think That Was The Implimication

We must be trying to coexist peacefully with fish or something.

[OzarkDem]

23. No, just political impulse buyers

People who just want to align themselves with the most popular media candidate.

[lligrd]

25. I Prefer That To Being A Sucker

and voting for the one that has already proven to be a lemon.

[Yossariant]

15. All who crossed over to vote for him in the 5 out of 6 open primaries he won

on Super Tuesday. *

He's "reaching out" to them and they're laughing their asses off at him.

*Not including Illinois and Arkansas, due to home state advantage.

[JI7]

16. many Obama supporters were not old enough to vote for REagan or Bush

but regardless, if you want to win we need people to vote for us over them. and if they are voting for Obama then it's a good thing because it shows he can get more voters.

[OzarkDem]

29. But what if he's just another Republican in Dem clothes?

[JI7]

32. he has been a democrat his entire life unlike Hillary

[ClayZ]

19. I have never voted republican.

My first vote was for George McGovern.

That election broke my heart.

I keep trying to patch it up!

[bowens43]

21. How should one respond to this kind of asinine attack?

Grow up.

[OzarkDem]

28. Answer honestly

Its not an attack, just a simple question.

[southern_dem]

24. Too Young for Reagan, but

I did vote for Dole (meh) at the age of 18. Blame my parents since they're die-hard Republicans and I still lived in that echo chamber. Moved away at age 20, became a D in 1999, voted for Gore and Kerry. Will vote for either Democrat this year.

[StClone]

30. I voted for Bill Clinton twice

And Reagan (Iwas 18 and living under the influence of my parents) but no Bush.

[Bicoastal]

34. Let me ask you something, OzarkDem...where do you think NEW Democrats come from?

Sure, the straight-down-the-ticket people tend to breed more straight-down-the-ticket people, but you're playing a losing game if you only count the Dems who pass down their political leanings from generation to generation as REAL Dems. Or if you say--"Voted for Reagan, did you? We don't want you here!" once too often or too loudly.

As a party, we NEED to attract new people--Independents and yes, former Republicans, or we lose every single time. And where do you think the most pro-Democrat Independents come from? Why, from the people who voted for Bush I, II, or Reagan and (pardon my French) got FUCKED up the ass because of it. Many of them even turn into die-hard liberals. Some of THOSE people are even here on this site, and would be happy to share their story with you if you care to listen.

Jesus, and you wonder why Hillary is losing Independents to Obama in every race. She ignores them at her peril--and yet ignore them she does.

(BTW, 2000 was the first year I could vote, and voted Gore, then Kerry.)

[southern_dem]

37. Impeachment actually turned me

away from the GOP. Good post btw. :)

[Sanctified]

36. Shit I was too Young to Vote for Reagon or Bush 1...

But I did vote for Clinton, Gore and Kerry.

[blogslut]

38. Not me

:hi:

[MadHound]

39. You've been in the Ozarks way too long, you're starting to think like those folks

Not everybody who is an Obama supporter is a kool-aid drinker. They are your fellow Democrats. Nor, unlike much of the Ozarks, is there a large contingent of Reagan Dems.

One more reason I left the Ozarks, the politics down there was all about the backstab and the cutting insult, even if you were nominally on the same side. Grow the fuck up and knock off with the sour grapes, we're not in Springfield anymore.

[OzarkDem]

42. I've lived in Ohio the last dozen years

Nice adhominem attack, I must have struck a nerve. So you did vote for Reagan or Bush?

[MadHound]

43. LOL, neither sweetums!

Hell, I'm so far left I've gone Green and Socialist before. But how long were you in the Ozarks? Your home stomping grounds? Given your attitude and snark, it very well could be. I recognize it from four miserable years spent downstate a couple of decades ago. Hell, you want to talk about Reagan Dems, they had them by the score.

Yes, I respond in such a manner, only because you offered up the first insult in your OP. Yeah, OK, your candidate is losing, deal with it. You don't have to try and insult everybody else around you. Doing so makes you look childish and petty, hence the Ozarks remarks, where that seems to be a specialty. I've never seen more backbiting and backstabbing anywhere than down there. Like I said, it must have rubbed off. Take a chill pill, look around you, are your fellow Ohioans backstabbing each other? That's the way the normal world operates, why don't you imitate.

[OzarkDem]

44. As we like to say in Missouri

Mind your own business.

[earthlover]

40. Could you explain how (mathematically) we can win without attracting these kinds of voters?

Hint: if you subtly look down on them, you are not going to attract them to our side....

So my response to that is: is there any evidence that Hillary can attract voters who voted for Bush or would we just be stuck with not enough voters to win the election?

I think it is obvious Obama has more strength among independents. He is the stronger candidate.

[Orsino]

45. I voted for the elder Bush in '88.

So this is all my fault. :blush: :banghead:

But it was cherry Kool-Aid.

[Raine]

46. Nope voted for Carter & Mondale against Raygun

voted for Clinton, Gore, kerry against Pop Bush and Chimp Bush.