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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:44 AM
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So Clinton and Obama want us to be united?
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 07:45 AM by RestoreGore
Obama states he wants unity with our adversaries? So that means he or Hillary Clinton will also just allow Bush and his criminal accomplices to go free? Sorry, but that Kumbaya rhetoric is not what we need now. Maybe some of you mesmerized by Obama's speeches and those who cannot admit as well that Hillary Clinton has been wrong to also not call for impeachment as he hasn't want to sit at the table with the Neocons who shredded our Constitution and voted to kill the Bill of Rights, but I don't. And only candidates who are part of them would suggest that now. Only someone who really DOESN'T CARE ABOUT JUSTICE would want us to sit at a table with the same people who killed our children in an illegal war and caused us all such pain and the people who voted for them to give them the power to do it. It certainly doesn't make you sound credible then if you say you are against an illegal war of lies, when you don't even want justice for those who waged it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/12/AR2008021201202.html?hpid=topnews

They also just voted to kill the Bill of Rights AGAIN, the SAME Congress those now running on both sides who don't want Bush impeached for his crimes are members of. There will then be no unity from me with them. I am an AMERICAN first and I don't unify with traitors to my Constitution.

So get behind what now? More of the same? The Democratic "majority" cannot even stop the killing of our Bill of Rights or our children. Is there really any hope that there will be this sudden "epiphany" in the halls of a corrupted place as Washington Dc? Do people honestly believe that after all these traitors have done to get this far and this war that they will just give it up because Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton or anyone else says so? Where are peoples' heads?

So no thank you on your "unity" rhetoric, because to me right now it has a very subtle deceptive ring to it. The only thing I get behind is the Constitution in calling on them to call for Bush's impeachment and for this Constitution to be made whole now. Not as an election promise to get votes after they gave it away, but NOW because it is the moral thing to do.

What will we tell our children was the reason why that didn't happen after what they read about? How can you say you are for change if it does not include justice? That party right or WRONG comes before country? BS! So yes, go sit at the table with Bush and kiss his ass after all that has gone down. That goes off real well with those of us who have been living in reality all of these years and not in the ivory towers of Washington Dc where it appears real honor is nothing but an illusion.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:57 AM
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1. uniting the PEOPLE...
...not the politicians.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:01 AM
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3. yeah, good luck with that.
And again, I WILL NOT UNITE WITH ANYONE WHO VOTED FOR BUSH OR ENABLED HIM. So are you saying they HAVE stated that they will seek justice for Bush and his criminal regime to coincide with their talk if they are elected? Anyone got a link to that? I sure haven't heard it.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:47 AM
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10. Hillary never advocated uniting with Republicans...
Obama is not only bi-racial, he's bi-political!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:50 AM
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13. OK, but will she hold them accountable?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:11 AM
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17. I wouldn't be supporting her, if I thought she wouldn't do it!
yes, I'm as wild as they come when it comes to Justice!

http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/hillaryclinton_wideweb__470x308,02.jpg
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:59 AM
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2. What? No comments? No truth?
Where are the people out in the streets defending this constitution? Where are the young people out in the streets protesting this war? Are they only good enough to go to rock concert rallies now? Is that the extent of the outrage?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:04 AM
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4. Obama doesn't support killing the Bill of Rights.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:06 AM
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6. he does if he doesn't hold the ones doing it accountable
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:21 AM
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8. Hey, at least Obama voted against telecom immunity
Hillary couldn't bother. She also voted for the original Patriot Act, you know, the bill that originally started this run on shredding the Constitution.

Sorry, but your arguments fall flat in the face of reality.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:27 AM
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9. And? Will he call for justice for the Bush regime?
Why can't anyone answer that?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:50 AM
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11. Obama announced early on he wouldn't prosecute Bush or his cousin, Cheney!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:50 AM
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12. And what about Hillary Clinton?
will she?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:04 AM
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16. Hillary agrees with Obama on very little..
The fact she hasn't said, she won't; speaks like Thunder to me!

How far has Kucinich gotten taking that tack?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:53 AM
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15. He prefererred to poison it by voting to continue the Patriot Act.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:22 AM
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19. And He's Such a Great Leader He Got the Full Senate to Back Him ...
Right?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:06 AM
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5. gee, its a good thing you spent months trying to convince folks who
wanted Gore to get into the race that it was such a bad idea. :eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:14 AM
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7. This is about our constitution
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 08:16 AM by RestoreGore
Do you care? And yes it was a bad idea for Mr. Gore to get back in this crap now because this system hasn't changed at all, so I was right about my beliefs on that. Even he saw that which was why he gave such a brilliant speech on this and wrote such a truthful book on it that everyone seems to have forgotten. So again, where is the link stating that Clinton and Obama will seek justice for the criminal Bush regime should they be elected? If you can't comment on the substance of that then I don't really see a need to go at this with you back and forth. Americans who have seen the deterioration of all we hold dear want REAL CHANGE. That doesn't include more platitudes, empty promises, and saying you care about the Constitution but then not seeking justice for those who abrogated it for their own benefit.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:51 AM
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14. Obama is wants 'Unity' with republicans who dont do unity
but says nothing while his 'supporters' endlessly attack his political rivals. There is no unity with this guy.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:18 AM
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18. Obama is sucking the Oxygen out of this campaign by pretending to be the "do gooder"
If he gets the Nomination...the Rezko Trial will cast reasonable doubt with the public fearful of electing another Bush/Nixon! Step right up, President McCain!

The first thing Fitz is addressing for the Trial is Rezko's Campaign Donations...

OBAMA!

BINGO!
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