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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:02 AM
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I Love Hillary, voted for Hillary, but with all the advantages she had,
if she can't close the deal, I can't wait to watch Obama and McCain on the same stage, Obama will eat his lunch. I don't think her campaign can make it a month with his momentum.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:04 AM
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1. Hillary is no longer a viable candidate
You can't call yourself a viable candidate if you continue to lose by 20+ points
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:08 AM
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4. We'll see how it goes in Texas and Ohio. nt
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:13 AM
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8. I agree - if a split the nomination is Obama's
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:28 AM
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12. Depends...
...if O. wins Ohio by 1% and HC somehow has a gigantic lead in TX, then we are back to square one.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:29 AM
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13. Sorry. Hillary needs both to even stay in this race. If Obama wins one, it's over.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:33 AM
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14. Um, this is about delegates, not states.
Texas is gigantic while Ohio is merely big. If HC loses either outright, she will probably not be able to recover. If she wins both by a respectable, but not huge margin, we are back to a neck and neck race. If she wins either by a large margin while still carrying the other, she will have a lead but not a great one. If somehow HC has a landslide in both (unlikely) then we will be asking if O. will drop out.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:37 AM
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17. But more than that, it's about perception. These are her firewalls; her last stands. Obama
has advantages in every state before and after. If Hillary collapses in OH or in TX, she'll look like a sinking ship, even if she wins the other one strongly. Already superdelegates are wavering. If she loses her party backing--as she will if she goes down in OH or TX--she won't be able to win it.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:34 AM
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15. ... and ignore primaries. She will regret not trying in WI. n/t
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:04 AM
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2. That's dem really encouraging words you have there.
Just what we need!

Not.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:07 AM
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3. I think either Dem would make a great president.
But I'm much more excited about Obama.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:10 AM
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5. It's about the war. That faint rustling sound is the pigeons coming home to roost.
Hillary thought that the Left and the Base would have nowhere to go but with her, and that was a catastrophic miscalculation on her part.

But there is always 2016. Maybe by then people will have forgotten her votes for the torturous, murderous wars.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:30 AM
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7. I was thinking 8 years might be enough time for me to forgive
But will she be a viable candidate at 68?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:20 AM
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10. I think at 68 she would be very viable.
She seems healthy and the age may create a certain air about her that would serve her well.

You just don't fuck with Grandma -- you just do as she says -- because she's been there before and knows what's best.

Anyone crossing the street in an inundated and utterly over-trafficked European capital knows that you wait for an older-looking woman to just start walking out in the street, then you stay as close to her as possible as you cross. Every car, bus, train and motorcycle stops, and no one so much as taps the horn -- lest they incur her wrath.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:36 AM
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16. She'd make a GREAT Sec'y of State and then '16 would be a
cake walk for her. :bounce:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:16 AM
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9. THIS "faint rustling sound"?


I'm giving you a heart for understatement.
:)
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:27 AM
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11. Aw, that is so sweet.
You don't have to do that. In fact, I can't believe anyone would give me a heart, and now I have two?

:blush:

Peace.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:38 AM
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18. But ... but ... No one could have KNOWN that invading Iraq was a terrible idea
And those millions of people protesting in the streets and calling Congress don't count because they are all, to a person, LATTE SIPPERS! Even the lactose intolerant ones -- they suck down the lattes and pay the price later.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:21 AM
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6. "speaking as a life long Democrat" nt
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