For anyone who thinks that Obama has this thing all but wrapped up

[mtnsnake]

I suggest that you pack your bags, move out of Illusion Park, and take up residence in Reality Acres for the next month or so

...because the Goddess of Peace has not yet begun to fight.

That's not just for the Obama supporters, but it goes for any Hillary supporters, too, who think it's in the bag for Obama.

Don't say I didn't tell you so. :smoke:

[goldcanyonaz]

1. You're the best, mtnsnake!

[Kittycat]

2. Goddess of Peace?

:rofl:

I'm not putting it past her to pull something out of her bag of tricks. I expect a lot of sewage to start flying, kind of like a scene from the Exorcist, really. But I digress...

[zabet]

11. Just go away...

there are plenty of
Obama threads that will
welcome your 'unifying'
gloating and Hillary slams.

[Kittycat]

14. Not gloating.

I'm just saying - she is no goddess of peace. If anything she is known for being ruthless when her back is against the wall. Which is exactly why I'm not taking her for granted, unlike many of my Obama-supporting friends.

[zabet]

23. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

:hi:

[Alexander]

38. Note the initials. Goddess Of Peace = GOP.

I think mtnsnake is not really a Hillary supporter. :-)

[mtnsnake]

40. Yeah, but everyone knows the difference between the lovely Democratic GOP & the Repukes GOP

It's just one of those coincidence abbreviation things.

I think mtnsnake is not really a Hillary supporter

You're right, Alexander, I'm actually her daughter, Chelsea, but don't tell anyone :)

[hell-bent]

41. Perhaps you can't see the truth

through the cat litter! :rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

58. Welcome to DU hell -bent.

:hi:

[Aussie leftie]

56. you sound like a shock jock from fox

[still_one]

3. NO ONE HAS IT IN THE BAG, and not only could it go to the convention

undecided, there is also a possibility that someone other than Clinton or Obama could end up our nominee

[salin]

4. while possible, highly unlikely.

[Armstead]

13. Hi Salin

Haven't seen you around lately.

[salin]

17. crazy schedule

but I am home this morning - and couldn't resist visiting. First time in a while I have had a block of time to read long enough to get sucked into multiple conversations... like old times :D

:hi: Hope you are well!

[Armstead]

19. I've been spending too much time here....Strangely addictive at the moment

Since I work on the computer, I keep getting sucked into checking out DU during the primary.

This whole primary process is fascinating this year. Frustrating in some ways but hopeful in others.

It sure adds some caffine to DU's discussions.

[salin]

26. this is the most interesting political season since

the summer I worked for a DC (dem) consulting firm that had several senate and house candidates and shared office space with other consultants working on other campaigns. That year the senate flipped dem and took a nice margin rather than the razor thin edge currently held. This is certainly the most interesting presidential primary season that I can remember.

In the late eighties folks kept talking about political pendulums and swings and I kept thinking... when? I didn't realize that folks were talking about much longer eras (rather than an election or two) - I think we are in the beginning of a serious pendulum swing - and have come to view this heinous bush era as the peak of the swing to the right - one striking high enough (on the extreme side) to bring enough momentum not just to swing back to the center but to carry it leftward for quite some time. Unfortunately a pendulum goes through the middle before reaching the left. I think that we will see tepid centrism for awhile until there is recognition that the public itself is pushing the political envelop further to the left. Never thought I would be writing/saying that.

[zabet]

5. I don't think it's over yet either.

Thanks for an encouraging
post after seeing so many
'she needs to drop out'
posts from the Obama supporters.

:hi:

[babylonsister]

6. Bookmarked to send you to Reality Acres after March 4.

:smoke:

[mtnsnake]

15. Take it to the bank, Sis

:smoke:

[mkultra]

7. i dont think any obama supporters

But maybe 3% think he has it in the bag. On the contrary, it is still very much up in the air.


Nice straw man argument. Try harder to contain your acrimony.

[mtnsnake]

16. Yeah right

:eyes:

[mkultra]

21. another straw man

HRC supporters are full of hate.

[mtnsnake]

37. You wouldn't know what a straw man was if it looked you right in the eyeballs

HRC supporters are full of hate

No we're not, we're full of love, and better to be full of love than full of shit! (snicker)

[underpants]

8. I agree-the smart money is still on Hillary

IF and I mean IF she does win Ohio Texas and Penn (and no not by 110% either-just win)

[Spider Jerusalem]

18. she can't pull out a credible victory in total delegates with mere wins there, though

they have to be blowouts on the level of what she's experienced in the last few primaries. Otherwise she goes to the convention with fewer delegates. The math is simple, here. Anything less, and the legitimacy of her candidacy, should she secure the nomination, comes into question.

[underpants]

22. Okay I haven't crunched the numbers

and I have to say the wide variety of totals from news sources is alarming


BUT

all I am saying is that if she can be close come convention time between her and Bill and McAuliffe and Rubin and Emmanuel and Ford etc wringing arms and the party's (convention types) high degree of uncertainty of picking Obama over the known product (race goes in here) Hillary gives her the edge.

Either way there are going to be a lot of broken hearts (and not just on DU) no matter what happens.

[Spider Jerusalem]

25. Yeah, well...I can guarantee one thing...

if she wins the nomination due to backroom politics, arm-twisting of superdelegates, and seating the illegitimate delegates from Florida and Michigan, and not on the basis of a lead in committed delegates from primary contests, she's going to destroy the Democratic party for a decade or longer.

[underpants]

27. and then who gets to remake it?

DING that's right Hillary and DLC

I don't think that is the plan but that could be the result.

[Spider Jerusalem]

29. No, actually, it wouldn't be

the result would be President McCain.

You'd see a LOT of pissed off people saying things like 'I thought we only had to worry about Republicans stealing elections from us'. And I suspect there'd be a lot of people not voting as a protest against the inherently unfair selection process. Which, you know, is understandable; this is supposed to be the Democratic party, not the Royalist party.

[underpants]

30. I'm working on a post sort of about this

I think that what Hillary has run into (not that it explains the entire Obama thing) is a continuation of what we saw in 2006. From the Lamont win in Connecticut (not exactly a bastion of radicals) to the massive smashing of the ingrained rigged (98%) incumbent system in the national election this may all be a cry for change. I haven't heard a single pundit say this but then they were so clueless that they didn't see 2006 coming either (we picked up 3 seats in INDIANA?) because it wasn't polled on. Anyway I am working on it. I think Hillary, who is/was the establishment candidate, ran into something that none of her inside the castle walls political "Experts" saw coming nor did any of the DC cocktail circuit (same thing really).

What's the Brando line--What are you revolting against?
What have you got?

[Spider Jerusalem]

32. Part of it is likely...

a backlash against a perceived (and not entirely incorrectly perceived, either, I don't think) sense of entitlement to the nomination on Clinton's part. She expected it to be over bar the shouting on Super Tuesday, after all. And part of it is probably a general desire for change; Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton? It's seen, rightly or wrongly, as more of the same. Rehashed policies, old ideas. Not a way forward, but a step back. So of course it's a cry for change. And the DNC would be unwise not to heed the call, for the reasons I've given.

[underpants]

36. Not a fan of Brookins (local Rag cartoonist) but he played off the Super Bowl like this

[FogerRox]

47. IIRC Tx has 193 delegates, Ohio about 140.

It looks like HRC would need about 280 out that 340 that is Tx & Ohio. That means HRC needs to win Tx & Ohio by 75% or better, and that looks to be very unlikely.

We may see Obama go into the convention with a 200 to 300 pledged delegate lead.

[Auntie Bush]

60. I had been watching MSNBC but when they said Hillary couldn't possibly win

because if the numbers and Obama was a sure win...I left MSNBC and haven't been back. Now I have faith again. Good to see a positive thread about Hillary. Thanks...I need that!

[robbedvoter]

9. This morning I got pissed at some of the venom - and revelations - and posted this:

I I don't have a penis. Nor youth. What I have is a lot of friends - staunch democrats
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4570169
I was derided - that I was giving myself too much importance...But I am not just one person. I am one robbedvoter - of many - who don't want the Democratic party dismantled just yet

[BlackVelvet04]

31. And better insurance.......

;)

There's lots of us with ya!

[robbedvoter]

34. I know. They are called...democrats.

[DS1]

10. Goddess of Peace has not yet begun to fight

Love the irony in that statement, coupled with the idea that we're the ones living in illusionland.

[TwilightGardener]

12. Goddess of Peace!!!

:spray: That's so over-the-top ridiculous, I have to wonder if you're a parody of a Clinton supporter.

[Sadie5]

20. MSM is on this

They are playing up Obama every chance they get and MSNBC is a sorry bunch because they can't even hide their gloating anymore. Then you have the feel sorry for David Schuster crowd who like to poke fun at Chelsey Clinton who BTW has quite a career of her own. I don't feel sorry for Schuster he needs to find a way to cure his habit of running off at the mouth. Experience does count and puppet Obama will be just that to those running the show from behind the curtain. He will not have the experience to run things himself and his buddy buddy advisor's will steer him in the direction they thing more profitable to themselves. Not knowing enough to call a halt to their dirty deeds Obama will follow blindly and defend his actions to the American people on national TV just a GWB has in the past.

[TwilightGardener]

24. Hillary has less elected experience than Obama. And the rest of your post is too nutty for me.

[Sadie5]

51. wienerdoggie

You must be nutty yourself to insult other posters who are trying to point out various areas where BO is lacking. Prove to me that Hillary has less experience than BO. I'd like to see the proof. So, let me get this straight, when something is posted about the candidate BO and it is not to your liking, the post is too nutty to read.

[Auntie Bush]

61. He'll be another george Bush in a bluish purple limp suit. n/t

[IndieLeft]

28. Fight? Hillary Fight? Would She Even Show Up To The Ring? n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. Goddess of Peace?

Is that the name of her heavy metal band? At least she's always got that to fall back on.

[Lerkfish]

35. its classic 1984 doublespeak

since she's pro-war, call her the Goddess of Peace.

like the MInistry of Truth, etc.

[New Dawn]

43. lol

Exactly what I'd expect from the Clinton campaign.

[Scurrilous]

49. Bingo.

:thumbsup:

[MJJLWolf2]

39. The Goddess of Peace?

Shrillary voted for the war.

Ain't no peace with Iraq.

[WilyWondr]

42. giuliani 101

Giuliani, whose front-runner status evaporated last month, gave another tutorial on his big-state, late-state plan to win the Republican presidential nomination.

"We were not going to emphasize Iowa in the way that other candidates did," Giuliani said, insisting this was "absolutely no insult to Iowa at all."

Besides, Giuliani said, there'll always be Florida.

Deja vu.

[Jed Dilligan]

44. Goddess of Peace

:wtf: :spray:

[TheDonkey]

45. GOMAMA!!

yick

[HCE SuiGeneris]

46. G.O.P.! G.O.P.! G.O.P.!

:puke:

[Political Heretic]

48. LOL dude that first sentence of your post killed me.

Cheers to you my friend.... that made me laugh out loud! :)

[mtnsnake]

50. Cheers

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[goodgd_yall]

52. You're such a good cheerleader, mtnsnake

:hi:

[mtnsnake]

54. Hey there, goodgd_yall

good to see you!

:hi:

[amborin]

53. this will stay neck and neck to the convention

the media is acting as if the past week is some kind of surprise

but Hillary knew Obama would carry these primaries....she wrote them off....

nothing is a sure bet this campaign, for either candidate

[Spiffarino]

55. Not even close to "in the bag"

I read a piece on Kos the other day that should be read by all Democrats, regardless of which candidate they support. I'll do my best to paraphrase it.

If you're a touchdown ahead, think: It's the 4th quarter and I'm down by two touchdowns.

If you are up by five points in the most recent polls, think: I am 30 points down with no time to spare.

If you are way ahead in the race, think: I am behind and I must run faster.

The way we will win is by wanting it more than the other side. We must work harder; we must be more diligent; we must be more agile; we must demand more of ourselves. And when our poll numbers are perfect, and the press we receive is glowing, and if daisies are growing out of our butts, think: We are doomed unless we work harder and refuse to stop until we've won.

[Danger Mouse]

57. Goddess of Peace?

...
:rofl:
That's just absurd.
And no, I don't think he has it 'in the bag'...he will have to fight hard in Texas and Ohio...if he does well there, then it's pretty much over.

[Johnny__Motown]

59. Hillary has won approx. 48% of delegates so far, needs 60+% from now on

not impossible but not easy.

Already having money issues and will go for 3 weeks without a win.

Also having change over inside her campaign. that won't help.


She now sounds like Rudy, he was skipping smaller states to win in Florida. She is skipping smaller states to win in Texas.


Good luck