Why women Hate Hillary

[AGirl]

If you're a professional woman, it doesn't matter how smart you are, how much money you make, how many men you turned into sawdust to get to the top, Hillary is smarter, earned more, and mashed more men than you have. Professional women have started to hate Hillary because their roar of accomplishment sounds like a pathetic "tweet, tweet" when compared to the First Lady.

Of course, these are the same women who were supposed to be Hillary's natural constituency. But Hillary blew it: she turned out to be much too competent, too attractive, too savvy. I mean, how can a woman feel proud that she's the first female CEO of a Fortune 500 company when Hillary's out there managing 14% of the Gross National Product and being compared not to Eleanor, but to Franklin Roosevelt?

How can Hillary win them back? It's easy. She needs to make a mistake, a big one, preferably on national television. If she can look temporarily flustered or at a loss for words, all the better. She needs to stop appearing so damned competent and in control all the time. Bill Clinton can then schedule a prime-time news conference to say Hillary's still got his trust and confidence, despite her "errors of judgment." America will love Hillary again. Professional women will welcome her back as one of their own.

Why feminists hate Hillary.

I'm not talking about part-time suburban feminists -- you know, the kind that wear flannel shirts on weekends and pick up their groceries in four-wheel drive Broncos. I'm talking about women who know how to spell misogyny and have Anita Hill posters in their bedrooms. For them, Hillary is living proof that the only way for women to succeed in this country is to subrogate yourself to the white male power structure. They hate Hillary precisely because -- like most men -- she is willing to do whatever it takes to succeed, whether it means changing her name, her hair, her clothes, her values, or her disdain for certain members of the Republican party.

Why poor women hate Hillary.

Hillary who?

Why black women hate Hillary.

Does anyone remember Lani Guinier? She was the "radical" black woman that the media said wanted to relocate parts of the Bronx to South Carolina so there'd be more minority congresspersons. Lani Guinier, given her activist agenda and legal background, is really a black Hillary Rodham Clinton -- Hillary without the conservatism of Park Ridge, without the compromise of whiteness. She was also the black woman that Bill Clinton forgot to fight for. So while Lani got the rope, Hillary got the pedestal. Don't expect black women to sing Hillary's praises in the foreseeable future.

Why country-club Republican women hate Hillary.

These are the women with expensive degrees from Smith, Vassar, Mount Holyoke, and Wellesley who for years coasted along, living off their inheritances or their husbands, who joined a few community groups, dabbled in the arts, and thought they were making the most of their talent and education. Thanks most recently to Barbara Bush, it was fashionable to be a highly-educated female under-achiever.

Hillary's changed all that, and these women are pissed. A large number of them are doctors' wives, which explains the venomous hissing whenever Hillary's name is mentioned.

So who really likes Hillary?

The people who were supposed to hate her the most, as it turns out, have become her greatest fans. Of course, we're talking about white, middle-aged, middle class men.

It took a few months, but Hillary's proven herself and they like what they see. Cooped up all day in corporate offices, surrounded by incompetent young MBAs (male and female), these men love the ever-competent Hillary. She's the woman they thought they were marrying twenty years ago. As the joke goes, if they had married her, they would be President. And she's far less threatening than their wives, who not only insist that they help out in the kitchen, but are statistically likely to take off with their children, their homes, their bank accounts.

There's a bonus, too: Hillary is sexually appealing. Decency precludes too much detail about this. Let's just say that for these men, Hillary is a combination of Sharon Stone and Rebecca DeMornay, with brains.


http://www.hillaryclintonquarterly.com/womenwhohatehillary.htm

[Fredda Weinberg]

1. " if they had married her, they would be President" ... this much is patently true n/t

[papau]

2. funny - but actually not a bad analysis - but the over 40 women who have had a few years of

real life do - if not black - overwhelmingly vote Hillary - with the percentage going up the more years they have under their belt.

[babylonsister]

3. What a bunch of hooey. 2/3's of the men voting yesterday went for Obama:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4561137&mesg_id=4561137


According to exit polls, Obama won nearly 60 percent of the female vote, a demographic that has carried Clinton to success in past primaries.

Clinton even fared worse among men in Virginia – more than two-thirds chose Obama.

[SoFlaJet]

4. as a 52 year old (Obama supporting) man

I can honestly say I don't hate the woman-I dislike the people she has around her-the "surrogates" THEY make me not like, and made me NOT vote for her...why is that? I will always be grateful to the Clinton family for their service to this country-it's just not her time this time. I hope she goes back to the senate and makes amends for a few pretty bad and critical votes and doesn't turn into another Lieberman on us out of spite.

[blm]

5. How about the simple FACT that Clintons protect Bushes - and many Dems HATE THAT!

Said the smart female who happens to have paid close attention to the actual record of coverups the Clintons HAVE PERFORMED over the years for BushInc and Jackson Stephens and Dubai and Saudi royals.

[Doctor_J]

6. Actually, the polls have shown that women of about 45 years of age and older LOVE Hillary

and are voting for her overwhelmingly. This might be a false premise for the article.

[jmg257]

7. Save yourself all the cut & paste: "she is willing to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to succeed" says it all.

Honesty. Trust.

Then respect.

[PassingFair]

8. That's right! We're all just jealous.

PassingFair<------------- Flounces Off.

[HockeyMom]

9. I voted for her twice for Senator

I am what they would consider to be her core supporter; New Yorker, white, older, working class woman. Her stance on the war has always bothered me, but I voted for her for Senator because there really wasn't much of a contest among Dems in NY. Vote Republican? No way.
I also don't think she has really improved the state of NY very much. Her biggest postive, in my mind, was a vote against Bush in the congress.

I think this country needs change and electing somebody of my generation and a DC insider is not going to bring that. We need new blood and a new generation to fix what is wrong (a lot from Bush) in this country and our imagine around the world.

Besides, enough is enough of Bush and Clinton. It's time to move on.

[Arugula Latte]

10. Let me get this straight. Women hate her, and men hate her, and blacks hate her,

and young people hate her and rural people hate her and latte sippers hate her ...

[jmg257]

15. Yea - "women" was all she had left. Now they hate her too?? nt

[RoadRage]

11. You forgot: Why the Young hate Hillary...

It's because all we could remember when we were growing up was hearing about how her husband was walking all over her in the white house with an intern named Monica.

We assume if she's naive enough to allow that to happen, then Iran won't have a problem sneaking a few things by her as well.

It's a stupid argument - but one that lives on anyway.

[Arkansas Granny]

27. You're right. It's a stupid argument.

[bunnies]

12. This shit is so insulting.

Nobody has the right, just because I have a vagina, to pretend to know how I feel or why I feel that way. What a bunch of condescending sexist drivel. Fuck that noise.

[AGirl]

14. Its called social commentary and social psychology.

[theboss]

18. It's called "bad social commentary"

Let me have three or four conversations with some intimates and extrapolate a sweeping message out of taht.

[bunnies]

22. So its NOT insulting condescending sexist drivel?

Should I now be told how I should interpret those words and feelings as well?

[AGirl]

24. Its called social commentary and social psychology.

[bunnies]

30. Nice non-answer.

:thumbsup:

[Triana]

13. I am a woman and I DO NOT HATE Hillary...and I RESENT people...

...why try to SPEAK FOR ME telling me I do.

"women" DO NOT HATE HILLARY. Some do, some do not. And they CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES without an assinine pundit deciding to lump them all together in a "women hate hillary" broadbrush meme that is essentially bullshit on its face.


Not ranting at the OP but rather about YET ANOTHER ARTICLE declaring that "women hate Hillary".

I'll TELL YOU WHAT I DO HATE: People trying to DEFINE me. People trying to SPEAK FOR me. People TELLING ME who I hate.

I'LL DECIDE FOR MYSELF WHO I HATE and

I

will define that to others, not vice-versa.

I am a woman and I do not hate Hillary. Do I think she'd make a good President? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm undecided about that -- but regardless

I AM A WOMAN AND I DO NOT HATE HILLARY

[Avalux]

16. I don't fit into any of those categories.

I don't hate Hillary but I certainly don't like her; never have. I had a choice to make once - stay married to a man for money and whatever else or leave and do it by myself. I decided for my own peace of mind, it was better to give up the security than suffer the indiscretions. Hillary and I are polar opposites on personal choices; I couldn't support her because of it.

[krabigirl]

17. I'm a woman and I certainly don't hate Hillary.

[cd3dem]

19. as a former teacher... females fight with females all the time..

they fight over men

they fight over popularity

they fight over who is prettier

they fight over who is more gifted

they fight over what each other says

they fight over which way one looked at the other



It can be linked to a Darwinian theory of fighting over reproductive advantages but we must realize that when we choose to knock a woman off the hill... we do not gain any advantage.. .we usually fall down with them!

[AGirl]

21. women are hostile to other women.

[cd3dem]

26. the sad thing is... even liberal minded women get sucked into the rhetoric

[Bluerthanblue]

29. and?????

replace the word female in you post with "men"- and it is equally valid.

So????-

I just don't get this- prejudice does work both ways- as a single mother of sons, I have learned we all are human- we all bleed- we all laugh- cry- need- stumble- yearn- die- ....

We can't make things better by becoming the yin to their yang- If we want to be equal in all ways, we must BE the change we wish to see in the world-

I see people- in all colors, shapes, sizes, sexes, ethnic backgrounds, ages etc.

peace~

[cd3dem]

33. there is a big difference between young males and females in the schools

males will fight and compete over things and often move on... they get aggressive, yes... but it isn't so much about relationships..

females will fight over the stupidest things...

I am also the mother of 4 teenagers... 2B's and 2G's

research supports my post

[Bluerthanblue]

35. I still don't get your point?!

girls fight over men-

your sons have never fought over a girl?

girls fight over popularity

for boys this is demonstrated in many ways- sports/gangs etc

girls fight over who is prettier

boys do care about their looks- and they make fun of each other all the time

girls fight over who is more gifted

boys may not fight over academic 'giftedness'- but they have their own contests often physically orentated

girls fight over what each other says

boys do this all the time- "What'd you say!!???"- "Say that to my face!!??"

girls fight over which way one looked at the other

again boys do this every bit as much as girls.


I don't understand how this relates to the OP- The article encourages the notion that as a female, I SHOULD envy Hillary for qualities that quite honestly, are not my top priorities. It stereotypes women into pretty shallow, ugly categories. It encourages sexist thinking and action.

And can't support any of that.

peace~

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[cd3dem]

37. again, the research supports my post

[Bluerthanblue]

38. ?

ok-

:shrug:

peace~

[THUNDER HANDS]

20. meh

I've seen better analysis scribbed on bathroom stalls.

[AGirl]

23. wow the signature is ugly

there are some really insightful stuffs on the bathroom walls..

[Bluerthanblue]

25. wow- Why does Hillary always have to be connected to "Hate"?

Is it possible not to support her in this primary and not "hate" her?

Is it possible that a white middle age woman who has no interest in what her "accomplishments" may look like to "The Hillary Clinton Quarterly" may admire and respect Hillary as a person, but not want her as president, and not even need to come close to any feelings of hate, inferiority or envy as a result?

I can honestly say, I would not trade my quirky, sad, wild, stupid, incredible life for hers, for anything.

As a woman, I'm insulted by the comments in this article, and I reject the premises put forward here. IMO this argument is a perfect example of sexism.

And it isn't pretty.

peace~

[RichGirl]

28. As Bill Maher has said...

People who hate Hillary, hate themselves. You don't have to like her, or agree with her, but there is no reason to hate her. Jean Shinoda Bolen says it's the "self loathing" of women. This isn't just about Hillary. There are more women in this country, more women vote yet only 14% of our government is women. We always elect men to be president even though they have driven this country into the ground. I remember back in high school. You'd have plans with your girlfriends with an understanding that if you got a date with a BOY, even if he was a pimply faced nerd, plans with the girls would be automatically cancelled.

The same women who claim to be against Hillary because of her vote on IWR, worked vigorously for John Kerry.

We all want change. But the difference between a white man and a black man is only skin deep. The difference between a man and woman goes to the very core of the person, the chemistry, the way the brain is wired to the heart. Obama is not change. He's the same old thing in a pretty package. We are choosing the boy because we always choose the boy.

We ladies are not going to elect a woman for president until we value and love ourselves. It's not men who keep women down, it's women who keep themselves and each other down.

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits' end, but she has always risen, always risen, don't forget she has always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.
Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.
There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you're born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female. But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupies. Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country. Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to be what it can become.
She declares she wants to see more smiles in the family, more courtesies between men and women, more honesty in the marketplace. She is the prayer of every woman and man who longs for fair play, healthy families, good schools, and a balanced economy.
She means to rise.
Don't give up on Hillary. In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country the wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without sanctimonious piety and without crippling fear.
Rise, Hillary.
Rise.
--- Maya Angelou

[Thepricebreaker]

31. Hillary is sexually appealing? HAHAHAHAAHAH

This 34 year old male disagrees with you 100000000% percent on that line.

[whatchamacallit]

32. I'm not a woman and I don't hate Hillary, but if I were, posts like this might drive me away

This is just another "You've got to be fucked up if you can't see how perfect Hil is" post. Yawn...

[jpak]

34. Are you a Demcrat? - yes or no...

n/t

[JVS]

36. Wanting to turn people into sawdust is fucked up