Edwards Supporters: Get ready, because the attacks are coming...

[PresidentObama]

Looks like John Edwards is going to endorse.

Not sure who yet, but the media seems to be leaning towards him endorsing the candidate that none of us expected he would endorse. I certainly never thought when he ran, if he dropped out...he would endorse this person. But it may very well happen.

So get ready. The attacks are coming.

"He's a fake" "He's a phony" "He sold out"

And so on.

God, I wish John were still in this race. But he isn't. And he's about to give his endorsement, and we as former Edwards supporters have an obligation to get ready to stand up for the man we believed should be the Democratic nominee.

Are you guys ready? The bullshit is coming!

[AndyA]

1. Well, whoever he endorses I'm certain it's because he feels they'll be the best nominee.

Neither Hillary nor Barack is exactly a good match for Edwards supporters, as he is much more progressive then either.

No doubt he has access to information we don't, though, so it's hard to say at this point.

For me, I just have to decide which candidate is the least offensive to me, and that's a sad lot to choose from. :(

[ClericJohnPreston]

90. I'M RIGHT WITH YOU...

John is light years away from either Hillary or Obama in terms of progressivism. Obama talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

I assumed JRE would go Hillary, as the lesser of two evils. There is something amiss in the Obama campaign and I'm always suspect when someone downplays policy and substance, in preference to style and superficiality..

"Hope" and "Change", does not a platform make. They are mere semantics, not details.

Wisdom also says that Clinton gave JRE the heads up on Rezko, which is still lying in wait, even if the Obamites want it swept under the carpet. Taking their cues from their fearless leader, they dismiss it out of hand. Sorry, but that isn't the manner in which the real world functions.

Given a choice, I'd pick Hillary over Obama too.

[mkultra]

2. Fools

Anyone who doubts the character of John Edwards because he might endorse EITHER Hillary or obama is a fool.

They should take their right wing divisiveness to freerepublic.

[tyne]

3. Exactly

[PresidentObama]

16. THANK YOU!! n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

58. What a refreshingly adult thing to say.

You get a gold star for the day. :)

[Triana]

84. thank you mkultra (n/t)

[berni_mccoy]

4. The b.s. will come from Clinton supporters when Edwards endorses Obama.

[PresidentObama]

17. Not really. Most I've talked to have said they'll respect his decision.

I think Clinton supporters respect Edwards for the fight he put into this election, and the passion he used when speaking and presenting his case to the nation.

[berni_mccoy]

48. The proof is in the posts. Clinton supporters here can't let a positive Obama thread go.

[rurallib]

5. to be honest, I don't think his endorsement will make much difference

I was a staunch JRE supporter. I waited for the word on high, but he hesitated. So I am guessing many of us picked between the two left.
Even if he endorsed Hillary now, I doubt he could sway the 15% plus that she has been losing by consistently.

[liberal N proud]

6. This one comes close

Or it could be considered a put down.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4572615

[michaz]

7. I have already made MY choice so who he endorses doesn't matter to me. n/t

[PresidentObama]

18. As it shouldn't. But the bullshit against Edwards is still coming n/t

[Pathwalker]

8. Supposedly, he's already the biggest twinkie ever.

IOW - it's already started.

[Straight Shooter]

13. I saw that offensive post. And of course it was an obama supporter.

Mean-spirited, spiteful, condescending. It's amazing how quickly they turn on those who don't worship obama or give him every advantage.

[mkultra]

35. your hatred is from you

Take your divisive right wing crap elsewhere.

[Straight Shooter]

47. Me? Right wing?

You're way off base. Keep talking. I'm borderline sitting this election out because of the likes of you.

[mkultra]

82. Your rude and arrogant

[LostinVA]

50. The poster is not RW

Your username, however, is.

[Bread and Circus]

66. Your username is very fitting, considering what happened yesterday...

[NMMNG]

92. Homophobic bullshit *is* divisive RW crap

Sorry if you didn't get the memo.

[surfermaw]

61. Mean spirited supporters are hurting their candidates chances of winning

Know I am susre you know who you are.

[LostinVA]

49. Ugh -- I missed that one

[LostinVA]

68. Do you know what "twinkie" or "twink" means?

He's calling Edwards gay -- a f*g.

[PresidentObama]

70. I sure hope not. As a gay American, I sure hope not.

[LostinVA]

76. I don't know HOW it can mean anything else

Talk about "code words."

[PresidentObama]

78. If so, the poster should be automatically tombstoned.

[LostinVA]

81. It can't mean

"Chemical-saturated golden sponge snack cake."

[blondeatlast]

9. I've seen the attacks already and the news of the "endorsement" seems purely speculation

on the MSM's part.

Besides, this Edwards supporter won't be swayed solely upon his endorsement by any means.

[gaspee]

10. Like I said

When people were crowing that he was going to endorse Obama - his endorsement won't decide my vote.

I won't vote for Obama for personal reasons (his blatant pandering to African American Evangelicals on the backs of us LGBTQ folks and the fact that I really didn't like him when I met him) and I'm not prepared to vote for Clinton yet. I want to, but I was hoping for candidate more in line with my own views.

We all know what's going to happen if John endorses Clinton - we'll have hundreds of threads denouncing him. Each more vicious than the last.

Those that chant hope and optimism the loudest around here get the nastiest when disagreed with.

[greguganus]

11. Huckabee? n/t

[Bread and Circus]

12. Well, the truth hurts...doesn't it.

[PresidentObama]

22. The truth? You mean that Edwards can endorse whomever he wants.

It does hurt. That's why so many are attacking him.

[Bread and Circus]

42. The truth is that the guy is just as much a trimmer and triangulator as your usual

spineless DLC Dem.

[PresidentObama]

45. Stop talking about Obama like that.

:evilgrin:

[AtomicKitten]

14. Please don't encourage the Hatfield vs. McCoy thing.

I respect John Edwards, and I think he has missed his moment to endorse. I also think that endorsing Hillary, the #1 recipient of lobbyist cash of both parties, would severely damage his reputation. But it is what it is. I think waiting this long to endorse will in itself take the wind out of an endorsement coming now.

Please don't bait people over this.

[PresidentObama]

21. I'm not baiting anyone. Calling the troops together for a battle.

I think John is about to endorse.

And the attacks are just now beginning.

[AtomicKitten]

27. Okay then, I'm ready.

[DaLittle Kitty]

25. Hillary And Obama Are Tied w/ Wall Street CASH... They're Both Corporatists... This Entire Primary

Was "cooked" from the outset... The MSM "The Voice of Corp[orate America" has chosen our nominee... no matter which one it is... Sadddddddddddddddddd But it IS not my fault... It IS The Fault of all of the numb minded morons that drink the MSM KOOLAID! :puke:

[PresidentObama]

29. Now only that but Edwards isn't 100% on the same page with Obama on this issue.

Remember, Edwards argued that Obama would be too soft with them.

The corporations and lobbyists that is.

So no doubt, this is a tough decision for him.

[AtomicKitten]

55. they are not the same -- Hillary is unequivocally the #1 recipient of lobbyist cash

[AtomicKitten]

33. Jeez, talk about kool-aid propaganda. Here's some information for you:

http://whazgoinon.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/hillary-clinton-biggest-recipient-of-lobbyist-donations/
http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/12/news/newsmakers/healthcare_clinton/index.htm
http://www.alternet.org/story/65869/

It is not only ignorant but uncool to spread false information knowingly.

[jackson_dem]

96. It's the truth. The #1 recipient of Wall Street money is Obama

Just Google "Obama Wall Street".

[jackson_dem]

95. Obama is actually ahead and has been from the beginning of 2007 there

[DJ13]

15. Its really too late for his endorsement to carry any weight

Had he done it before Super Tuesday it would have meant a lot more to whoever got the endorsement than it means now.

[IDemo]

19. If he endorses Hillary, that will make me no less an Edwards or Obama supporter

I will respect whatever decision he makes, and admire him greatly for bringing the issues forth in this campaign.

[PresidentObama]

24. Agreed. No matter who he endorses, he's still one of the good guys fighting the good fight n/t

[theHandpuppet]

20. I would hope for HRC, but if not, that's his choice

And certainly one I don't have to support. I was an Edwards supporter before and I'm not going to engage in bashing him whatever he might decide. My best wishes go out to John and Elizabeth.

At this point, to be perfectly honest, my partner and I are considering just staying home this November. As a lesbian couple in this country, we have finally had enough of the GLBT community being tossed under the bus. We just can't take it anymore.

[COFoothills]

28. I don't much think it matters at this point...

...I don't think his endorsement means a whole heck of a lot at this point and I don't think it will do much for either candidate in terms of gathering new support.

Edwards had a chance for his endorsement to mean something in terms of moving numbers. That was right when he dropped out and right before Super Tuesday when he was news and he was relevant to the story. But he was too chicken at the time to take sides since it wasn't obvious who the winner was going to be. Once it is obvious, then Edwards will endorse to assure that he picks a winner and has a voice going forward. Can't say I blame him.

[gaspee]

30. I'm with you

I feel exactly the same way. The main reason I'd support Clinton over Obama is the use (or not use) of one word. And what word is that?

Tolerance.

I do not want to be "tolerated" - I don't care WTF you think of me and whether you "tolerate" me or not. I want full equal rights. Period.

Obama thinks he's being special when he "tolerates" us -- at least Clinton gets it about the tolerance thing.

They are both far to the right of this lesbian, socialist, atheist, radical feminist.

[theHandpuppet]

60. How does one survive as a lesbian, socialist, atheist, radical feminist in Indiana

Of course, I should talk. I live in WV.

:hi:

[gaspee]

65. RI

It kind of looks like Indiana... a little. But it's RI - which is one of the most gay friendly states in the country and IS the most liberal state in the country - we just don't get much press. RI has defacto equal marriage as well, since marriages in MA are recognized in RI.

Bush the lessor has a 14% approval rate in RI - I wonder how much lower it will go before next February?

I like my little state - though I've lived in San Francisco, South Texas and Northern Florida - didn't much care for Texas and Florida.

I don't know how people do it, living in such unwelcoming places.

[bunnies]

23. I respect JRE and will respect his decision.

However, If a populist candidate endorses one he previously called 'corporate and status-quo', no one should expect eyebrows not to be raised.

[PresidentObama]

26. He also said Obama would be too soft with the corporations and lobbyists.

This is a tough decision for John Edwards.

I believe he is legitimately torn between these two candidates.

He will get behind one of them, but I'm not sure it'll be 100% behind them.

Either way, I respect his decision!

[bunnies]

52. Good point. Id forgotten about that.

So he's going to take heat regardless of who he goes with. There is no way I'd want to be in his shoes right about now. If he's genuinely torn, which I expect he probably is, maybe he should save himself the headache and stay neutral.

[PresidentObama]

59. He may do that, or give a lukewarm endorsement.

Maybe issue a press release, and run and hide in Chapel Hill.

I wouldn't blame him.

[bunnies]

99. Me either.

:toast:

[IndieLeft]

31. It doesn't matter who he endorses now. He waited to long.

It just looks like a political move now. He has lost all credibility... Well, that which he still had after his Iraq War vote and the bankruptcy thing... yeah, he's for the people. That's why you are paying 30% on your credit cards.

[PresidentObama]

32. I never said anything about the impact of his endorsement, but that isn't stopping the attacks.

Which is the point of my OP.

To warn Edwards supporters to be on the look out for the immature and childish attacks on JRE!

[mkultra]

38. Ill stand with you

No matter who he endorse, ill be by your side. Tell them to take it to freeperville.

[PresidentObama]

40. Thanks. No matter who he endorses, the attacks will come. And it's unforunate.

[Mezzo]

89. it's true. I will respect his decision either way

and I don't think he should be derided just because he didn't cater to one or the other.

[enlightenment]

75. "It looks like a political move now."

umm - this is politics we're talking about, right?

All these folks are politicians.

Of course it's political.

good grief.

[Coexist]

34. as a former Edwards supporter -

having meetings with the two of them first, negated his endorsement for me.

And he waited too long - I had already moved on. He was a leader to me, and then failed to lead, "keep your powder dry"? That is not an option with the time limits of a primary.

[krabigirl]

36. Am I ready? Some Obama supporters have been attacking us for a while. I'm used to it,

You know, I'm sure they (not all, but the vocal minority) mean it in the best possible way, in the spirit of Hope (tm) and Unity(tm).

I don't see as many attacks coming from the Hillary side. If they are there, they aren't as blatant and in-your-face about it.

[hfojvt]

37. If he endorses Hillary, I will be bringing some of the bullsh*t myself

Seriously, that would be harder to overlook than the IWR, the huge house and the $400 haircuts.

[mkultra]

41. bring it to freeperville

We dont want it here

[PresidentObama]

44. Thanks for bringing up the house and the hair cut again.

Seriously, please take that Elizabeth Edwards avatar off.

John Edwards can endorse whomever he wants.

If you don't like that, sorry!!

[hfojvt]

56. certainly he can, and I can criticize whoever I want

I can feel like a fool for spending $300 or so of my own money supporting him too. I didn't think the house and the haircut should detract from his policies, but I never thought they were copacetic either.

[Blue_In_AK]

62. How can you have Elizabeth Edwards as your avatar

and spout such utter bullshit? I don't believe you are truly an Edwards supporter.

[hfojvt]

71. "Ogres are like onions"

"You mean, they stink?"
"No, they have layers. Layers."

I always liked his policies more than I liked his lifestyle.

[Blue_In_AK]

73. All righty, then...

Your complaints about his lifestyle still seem like right-wing talking points, but you can say whatever you want -- as you have.

Carry on.

[Kahuna]

39. All I say is if he endorses Hillary and she loses NC it's not gonna

look good for him.

[LostinVA]

51. Edwards isn't overly liked in NC

I liked there for 17 years, my parents still do, and many of my friends do.

[greguganus]

54. I've been living here for over 40 years and you are right.

Edwards is not liked here.

[LostinVA]

57. My mother is a good Dem and very tepidly voted for him

Both in the Senate and as part of the Kerry ticket. Of course, she would trade him for Dole, Myrick, et al in a second!

He was my strong second choice, but I know many in NC wouldn't agree with me.

[Independent-Voter]

88. This it true.

Edwards started out strong enough, but then started to run for president and forgot about NC.

[surfermaw]

63. Never fear , Hillary not about to loose North Carolina, remember

[Horse with no Name]

43. My guess is that it will be Hillary

Because most of the Obamites are saying he waited too late to endorse.
They summarily dismiss anything that might be negative to something that wasn't ever needed in the first place.

[Rowdyboy]

46. Who gives a shit? The bullshit is already waist-deep here-let the slingers

have their fun. Those who appreciate John and Elizabeth Edwards will continue our respect long after these pissants are history.

[NastyRiffraff]

53. Bring it on! (As a not-so-great man once said)

We're used to the attacks. I don't think we've heard any original attacks in a long time; just variations on the old stale themes.

I have no idea who John will endorse, but I will respect his decision. It won't change MY decision, but I know he has to be torn. Neither candidate is as passionate about the poor, and challenging corporate lobbyists as he is.

[formernaderite]

64. He should endorse whomever he likes

If he had stayed in the race, I would have voted for him. Yesterday I voted for Obama...but I don't care who he endorses. In the end, we all vote for whomever we prefer.

[RiverStone]

77. He should do what Al Gore is doing...

Support our party's nominee after the convention.

[Barack_America]

67. The John Edwards I respect could never endorse Hillary...

Given his views on poverty and how corporate interests in government contribute to that. One cannot deny the corporate influence on Hillary's campaign, via her funding and her advisers. When pointedly asked by Edwards whether she would allow lobbyists to serve in her White House, she refused to say 'no'.

Thus, I don't see how, in good faith, he could endorse her. I could only imagine that her recent desperation led her to sweeten the deal for Edwards personally. That she offered him a position that Obama wasn't willing to.

The John Edwards I respect does not go to the highest bidder.

[d.amber]

74. as another edwards supporter I couldn't agree more

The Edwards I know would not go in this direction. It goes against everything he was running against. Let's how the rumors are just rumors

[jackson_dem]

97. Obama also has said no and look at his advisers and his money

The #1 contributor to Obama is Goldman Sachs.

[Geek_Girl]

69. I already voted

But no matter who he endorses I'll have a great deal of respect for him.

[NashVegas]

72. As Long As He's Not Endorsing McCain or Huckabee

I'll be fine :)

[PresidentObama]

79. Amen to that n/t

[Elspeth]

80. Edwards has a right to support whoever he thinks can do the job

I wish he hadn't left the race and I still respect him tremendously.

And I miss his presence in the race.

[ozone_man]

83. If he endorses Clinton

I hope it's after making a deal that she adopt some of his platform, maybe even offering a VP slot. I think she needs him to win at this point. And she needs to differentiate herself from Obama. A shift toward populism might do it. Obama seems too much of a social conservative for me, but Clinton is DLC, so I need some reason to vote for either one.

[Zodiak]

85. The only problem with that is that Hillary is not a populist

She cannot speak the language, and so the whole idea would go over like a lead balloon.

[corkhead]

86. I hope he agrees with me but I won't hold it against him if he doesn't

He was who I wanted to win, but at this point, his endorsement will either affirm or have no bearing on my choice.

[Independent-Voter]

87. Who still gives a shit about Edwards?

His media time evaporated within a few days of him dropping out. No one cares at this point.

[jsamuel]

91. the media is talking more about this endorsement than they did about his candidacy

[ShadesOfGrey]

98. I do. nt

[anigbrowl]

93. Well, I wish he'd endorse someone

Obama would be good in my view, but I'd respect him if he decides he must endorse Clinton.

But make a fucking decision already, guy.

[IsItJustMe]

94. I am there for you. You cover my back and I'll cover yours. I have no dog in this fight between

Hillary and Barack, but I really hate to see their supporters beat up on John. And to be honest, I see more of it coming from Obama supporters than I do Hillary's, either way though, it really turns me off.

[PaDem]

100. His endorsement means zero.......

meaningless. Won't help either candidate one lick.

[Catherine Vincent]

101. He's endorsing Obama.

Men like to stick together.