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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:49 PM Original message |
Do We Really Want Change (From The Clinton Years)? |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. cant stand the after taste. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Doesn't that mean we'll have another Bush afterward? |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yeah Prolly.... |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. Those days are over - NAFTA made sure of that |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Clinton's Banking Deregulation sparked the conflagration we're dealing with now |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. bill fought for side agreements |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Veto |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Clinton years did not include |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. do you want your kids to have it as good as your parents had it |
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JanusAscending (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. YES !!! |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, from the Bush-Clinton-Bush- (possible) Clinton regime. Yes. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. Absolutely. VERY ready to move forward and leave the Clintons and Bushes behind. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. Do we get a tiny China and $20/barrel oil back, too? |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:54 PM Original message |
A few months ago, |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
27. The Clinton years were great for me..... |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
29. There have always been people here who pointed out his bad policies |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
58. That is just not true. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
62. I've maintained for years... |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. They were lousy years for me |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. Why do think that if Hllary were elected, |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. Most certainly |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. I don't know, but NAFTA seems like a pretty big thorn in everyones ass to me. n/t |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. don't blame nafta on Bill |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. facts |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. He never fought it but rather he embraced it |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. a superficial take |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. Bullshit. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Clinton Years were like a Sugar Rush |
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moosen (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. sounds like a GOP talking point |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Of course -- I'm a right-wingher with a Wellstone icon |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Talk about cognitive dissonance |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. Many of the Obama people are too young to know anything about |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. "Many of the Obama people are too young " |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. please read some history |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. He could have vetoed it. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. it was way more complicated than that |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. It's not complicated at all. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Moreover, he didn't have to push it |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. he pushed for side agreements |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. YOU should read some history |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. nafta's passage was much more complicated than you state |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I've read all about it going back to origins post WW2 |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. I don't have to read history. |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Yes again, I rewmember as well..... |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:06 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Same here. I remember it vividly... |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. Yes! (with more points) |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. I certainly DO want a change! n/t |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. You can never repeat the past, only imitate it imperfectly. |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. Even if the Clinton years were paradise for all, which they weren't ... |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. You got that right, has been selected on m any polls as one of the 5th Presidents off all times |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. Those were good years, happy to repeat them |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Yes, And Furthermore All These So-Called "Obama republicans" |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. anti-Hillary folks have swallowed republican talking points |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
30. Here's my list. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
64. You forgot media consolidation. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. the Clinton years were not as good as the hype |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. One More Thing . . . |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. How bout, we dont want to settle for the Clinton Years, we want something BETTER. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I Actually Like That Answer |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
49. As far as I'm concerned, the Clinton years gave 12 years of Repub. Congress and 8 years of Bush. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
50. The thought is a security blanket for sure, but it's time to move on. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. the mills are gone, thanks to NAFTA and the other trade deals... |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. The premise behind you question |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
53. Because economically and globally nothing has changed from then |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. If NAFTA, GAT, and the Telecommunications Bill were revoked, |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'd be extatic if we got to the Clinton years levels - rights, peace, economy |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
66. Prosperity doesn't matter. What matters is change for change's sake |
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