Obama Should Pick A Woman As His Veep

[Me.]

That would make women happy and be a good covering your bases move. It would also be historic in its own right. There are plenty of qualified women to fill the spot.

[Bicoastal]

1. Obama/Obama Girl in 2008! nt

[cd3dem]

35. Obama girl did not vote for Obama

[apnu]

41. Obama girl didn't vote at all -- just to be clear (nt)

[Bucky]

56. Well, does she have a sister?

[LisaM]

2. It would "make women happy"?

Wow, that remark is offensive on so many levels.

[Bluebear]

3. Read: that would finally shut them up about this.

:silly:

[Me.]

30. Nonsense

It has been pointed out time and again that HC is going for the female vote and that women are supporting her in great numbers. The reason for that is obvious. As a woman I would love to see a woman have the top job, but if the giant mo goes against that, I would love to see the first female vice in history. As for the pandering mentioned downthread, there are a lot of woman in this country more than qualified for the position and who are more than up to the job, thus making it a smart move to my mind.

[NMMNG]

51. Yeah. Because we're shallow like that and stuff.

:eyes:

[Xithras]

53. There are women on DU who have admitted as much.

Quite a few, actually, who have stated that they primarily support Hillary because she's a woman and they want a woman president. They support her because they're energized that a woman actually has a shot at the top spot.

And yes, I happen to agree that it's a shallow position. When you basically admit, "I'm voting for X because she doesn't have testicles," it does tend to make others question your judgement.

FOR THE RECORD, I happen to hold the same opinion of those who support Obama simply because he's black.

Leaders should be chosen for their ability to lead, not their gender, race, or religion.

[NMMNG]

55. I've stated here more than once

That supporting candidate solely because they're female/black is just as asinine as refusing to support a candidate because they're female/black. I don't get people who do that.

[Connie_Corleone]

4. He should pick a man or a woman for VP.

[calico1]

5. My God, you're right!

If he picks a woman, then I will be a convert in a second. I mean, one woman is the same as another, right? I support Hillary but if Obama picks any other woman, that will make me happy because I'm a woman and any other woman = Hillary.


:sarcasm:

[Bluebear]

7. Your vagina will be jumping up and down with joy.

What is with people?

[Bucky]

57. As of your post... this thread is officially useless without pictures!

[Bicoastal]

9. Presumably, you'd be a convert because he'd be our NOMINEE if he picked a running mate...

[griffi94]

6. yeah condi rice

then he'll get the women and the repubs...oh yeah and african americans too :sarcasm:

[H2O Man]

8. What do you think

of Anthony Zinni?

[Bicoastal]

11. Not woman-y enough...

...think harder.

[bluescribbler]

12. Zinni's not a woman

But he'd make a great Veep.

[H2O Man]

13. I think that

he may be the choice.

[PresidentObama]

10. No, he should win the nomination first. Then worry about VP selection.

[LisaM]

14. Oh, please, minor details.

Heck, I wouldn't put it past him to choose Condi, since he's already said he could see inviting Colin Powell back (RED FLAG alert to me!)

[Inuca]

21. Do you REALLY not see the difference

between Rice and Powell?

[LisaM]

25. Colin Powell who is a yes man who lied to Congress and the UN

and embarassed us in the eyes of the world. He also allowed his credibility to be exploited to help push Congress into voting for the IWR.

He started his career with a cover up of the My Lai massacre.

Bill Clinton asked him to stay on as Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He refused. I have also heard that it was Powell who refused to implement gays serving openly in the military.

When he was SOS, he stood by and did not make a peep on behalf of the American people when his son was FCC chairman and tried to shut the public out of the airwaves - even though he stood to benefit greatly if such a change to media ownership rules took place due to the large amount of Time-Warner stock he owned.

I dislike both Powell and Rice, but I am tired of people acting as if he's some kind of plaster saint. I reject the notion of a Democrat taking Powell on in his or her administration.

[Inuca]

34. I do not think Powell is saint

far from it. But I do not think he is a consistent and remorseless political whore like Rice, that's all.

[formernaderite]

15. I don't want Obama to pander to anyone

when he wins this thing outright...he should choose whoever fits the bill and HE wants.

[Bluebear]

16. True, he took care of that in South Carolina already with McClurkin

[Me.]

33. Pandering Has Nothing To Do With It

Unless you think a woman couldn't fit the bill.

[oasis]

17. Medea Benjamin.

:bounce:

[Thrill]

18. Obama needs an attack dog. He needs some one like Jim Webb

But Bill Richardson not endorsing anyone is a serious sign that he has been told by both he will be on their top list

[George_Bonanza]

20. How's a 4-star general for an attack dog?

Clark is much too dignified and classy to be a prototypical "attack dog", but I think even McCain would be in bit of awe of him. He can't treat Clark like an ignorant whippersnapper.

[Thrill]

22. You know I would love it if it was Wes Clark

but his loyalty to the Clinton's likely eliminates him

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

43. LOL

My first thoughts were Richardson and Webb as well

1) Qualified
2) Play the attack dog role well
3) Bring critical states in line

Though Webb going to the White house could mean the loss of a senate seat in 2010

[Iceburg]

19. McCain will probably put a woman (Condi?) on his ticket ...there go the indies & Dem women/nt

52% of the population have been waiting a v e r y - l o n g time to have their voices heard.
Since we are now "One America" I know where those votes will be going.

[Me.]

32. Exactly

!

[kestrel91316]

23. I vote for Natalie Mains. Just for spite.

I think she'd be good insurance, too.

[Debi]

24. Oh geez

Obama should pick the person he will trust to work with him - challenge him if necessary - and be prepared to take his place if necessary.

Not necessarily a woman.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. what do you think women are that fucking stupid to not see through that shit..I hope he does do it

[IndieLeft]

27. It doesn't have to be Hillary... Right?

[Matariki]

28. Madeline Albright?

She'd make up for his Foreign Policy experience.

[MonkeyFunk]

37. She's not eligible

she was born in Czechoslovakia.

[cloudythescribbler]

29. How about Sen Barbara Boxer? nt

[Me.]

31. Excellent

There are so many possibilities

[Alexander]

38. Seconded. She's a great choice.

[ronnykmarshall]

47. No thank you.

I don't want Arnie to appoint himself to Boxer's seat.

[Independent-Voter]

36. So plumbing is your main consideration for a VP slot?

Please tell me you're not voting.

[Me.]

59. It's Called Targeting A Demographic

So instead of picking a veep because he's a military man or can bring in a big state, why not choose someone that a MAJORITY of the population can relate to? And anyone who thinks it wouldn't be a consideration is kidding themselves. It might not determine a final vote but it would be considered, even by republican women. Women have been waiting a long time to have a seat in the halls of power.

[Az_lefty]

39. he needs someone with military experience...like Wes Clark

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

40. Sorry

But Obama should pick the qualified person who brings the most to a ticket...

If its a woman so be it, if its a man so be it...

--

Personally I think Webb would be a great choice solid creds and he brings VA to the table, Richardson would also be a good choice (bringing NM to the table)

[Cadwallader]

42. Qualified women

As long as she has these qualifications, which I believe Obama needs on his ticket:

Minority heritage of a major demographic not African-American
Governor or Senator
Previous Diplomatic experience
Service In Clnton or Carter Administrations
Served in the Military

Anyone spring to mind?

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

44. You need to ad Geography

Someone from a barely red state in 04 would be nice (NM, VA, MO) or one of the big three (OH, FL, PA)..

[DiamondJay]

45. thats called "unelectable"

a black or a woman is enough change for most americans. both on a ticket is too much. and I am talking about your average middle american, of course us libs wouldn't mind, but Joe Sixpack will.

[walldude]

46. The ticket should be Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama

You want to unite the party? That's the way to do it. I'd rather see Obama/Clinton. He's got the vision, she's got the experience.

[tandem5]

48. Shall we try the reverse??? Clinton should pick a black man as his veep...

That would make black people happy and be a good covering your bases move. It would also be historic in its own right. There are plenty of qualified black guys to fill the spot.

boy! I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound so good.

[ronnykmarshall]

49. Janet Napolitano ?

[Iceburg]

58. no foreign affairs or national security experience /nt

[Araxen]

50. Campbell Brown

Hey, at least she'll be easy on the eyes!

[Taverner]

52. No I think its clear that if we're going to win it has to be Clinton

The ticket HAS to be Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton.

Anything else would sacrifice the momentum we have. We can cream the GOP 2/3 if we keep it up.

When momentum dies, it doesn't come back.

[Amimnoch]

54. Words cannot express how disheartening sentiments like this is

Aren't we supposed to be progressives? Aren't we supposed to be beyond picking candidates based on race, gender, and other physical attributes?

Call me crazy, but voting for Senator Obama because he's half black (or even if he was all black), to me is every bit as wrong as someone who votes against him for the same reasons.

Voting for Senator Clinton because she's a woman to me is every bit as wrong as somone who votes against her because she's a woman.

I propose that BOTH candidates will make an excellent choice for our leadership, and I deeply hope either, once nominated will select their running mate based on considerably more than such shallow perception based conditions. I hope the nominee looks purely at the best qualified candidate as their running mate without regard to gender, race, orientation, or other non intellectual, or capability based traits.