Why doesn't Obama concede?

[BooScout]

He needs to move out of the way since this race is so close and let someone who can take on the Republicans get down to business already. Let's be pragmatic about it.........Obama is not tough enough to win the Presidency. He's been handled with kid gloves by the Democrats and is in no way prepared to face the Republican Smear & Dirty Tricks Machine once it's turned on.

Democrats went with their heart with Kerry. It's time we start using our brains for a change.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Because he's winning.

As opposed to Clinton.

[SoFlaJet]

5. Kind of like that scene in The Search For The Holy Grail

the Monty Python movie where the knight gets all his arms and legs chopped off and then says "come back here you coward and I'll bite your legs off"

[NoPasaran]

9. That's SO "Old Politics"

Get with the program!

[Yael]

35. He's winning by too much though

This is about 50.0001% not 20 and 30 point blowouts.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

38. He's winning by over 100 delegates.

Which, I think, is good enough reason to not drop out.

[Yael]

46. You are not thinking strategically

You see -- he gets out NOW and she can make up ground and get the win that is hers for the taking.

[redwitch]

2. SERIES! OMG!

:rofl:

[BooScout]

15. Well my reasons are better than..........

...all the patently stupid reasons I have seen for Hillary to give up what, whether you realize it or not is a neck and neck race.

[IndianaJones]

3. Don't worry.

He will.

[Unsane]

17. He'll concede in an argument with his wife in 2016 about where to build his presidential library.

That's when he will "concede."

[LakeSamish706]

4. I've said this before and I will say it again... If Hillary's name were Rodam...

instead of Clinton, she would not even be in a race for the Presidency... She is and always has been running on her husbands name recognition and nothing else.

And as a mater of fact, she probably wouldn't be a Senator either for that matter.

[truedelphi]

27. Doesn't it drive you slightly nuts that on the one hand Hillary says

That she is experienced and she knows how to get things done and then on the other hand she whines about being a victim?

Give the woman some cheese for that whine!

I'd give her snaps for her "getting things done" if for instance her Natinal Health Plan had gone through. But no, the big bad repugs bashed her little plannee and she had to give up on it. That's how effetive she was!

[emilyg]

31. You can make the same argument

if Obama wasn't black.

[mathewsleep]

32. correct.

[easy_b94]

6. WOW give it up all ready

:(

[BooScout]

21. noooooooo.....

the point is that Obama needs to give it up. Reading comprehension is your friend.:*

[Dorian Gray]

69. Who made that point?

I haven't seen that point being proven yet. I haven't seen a good reason for EITHER of them to get out of the race yet.

[democrattotheend]

7. Gotta give you points for chutzpah

Coming on here and suggesting that Obama drop out after he trounced Clinton by at least 20 points in three primaries last night takes guts...gotta give you credit for that.

[LakeSamish706]

10. I was thinking more like stupidity actually! n/t

[BooScout]

50. Naaaaaaaaah.....

I'm not stupid........but I have seen some around here that don't catch on real fast.:silly:

[BooScout]

23. Thanks.......

I try.:evilgrin:

[mwb970]

8. Wasn't Kerry more of a "head" guy?

Kerry used to talk on and on about obscure aspects of policy. He tended to overthink his remarks. To me, he had intellectual appeal but specifically lacked "heart", which made him seem cold and aloof.

If anything, it was the Republicans who went with the heart and turned off the brain in '04, no?

[woolldog]

20. Yeah

Kerry didn't have that likability and charisma that Barack has. He was boring.

[BooScout]

24. No, the Republicans have never had any brains.

Trust me on that.

[verges]

37. Or hearts, for that matter.

Or hearts, for that matter.

[WonderGrunion]

70. You are correct

Dean or Kucinich were the "heart" guys. And the party tried to rip our hearts out and force Kerry on us.

[C_U_L8R]

11. He surely does concede

that his campaign is on fire !!!! : - )))))))

And he's tough enough to take care of himself thank you very much
but I'm sure he'd appreciate it if we'd all watch his back.

[zulchzulu]

12. That would be rather unprecedented. Win 8 states in a row and then concede...

Walk away from the bong, junior.

Walk away.

[BooScout]

40. I inhaled........

And I like it.:evilgrin:

It fills me with hope.:headbang:

[csorman]

51. That explains it all. n/t

[GarbagemanLB]

13. because some of us want an actual electable candidate to represent the Dems

Hillary is by far the weaker candidate in a GE.

[FlyingSquirrel]

14. I think they should both concede

and let Edwards have it.

:P

[IndieLeft]

16. Um........ I know why! HE'S WINNING!

[Perry Logan]

18. Those Obama folks--sharp as tacks.

[gaspee]

26. Quick on the uptake, too!

O8)

[no name no slogan]

19. I think Clinton and Obama should both concede

so that Lee L. Mercer Jr. can stop being just the secret President of the USA and be the REAL President of the USA (all three)

[shugah]

52. there is one issue that Lee L Mercer Jr does not address

and i think it will be a real achilles heel for him if he doesn't clear it up. when Lee L Mercer Jr becomes president of Government #2 in addition to Government #1, does that mean jeb bush will be all in the white house with disease? i can't figure that out, which is hard to believe, since Lee L Mercer Jr is always so clear about everything (All Three).

edit: speilling

[RunningFromCongress]

22. Dems went with their brains w/ Kerry, don't twist history

[BooScout]

34. Looky....

[death to the DLC]

25. Not tough enough?

Are you kidding? Have you ever tried your hand at union organizing? Let alone in the streets of Chicago? He's tough enough and then some.

[stillcool]

28. Why don't we just keep Bush?

that way you don't have to worry about the big, bad, Republicans. What is has always been and will always be, right?

[jmg257]

29. Umm...because THE VOTERS want him as the nominee? (more & more overwhelmingly now)

[cloudythescribbler]

30. Actually, if you remember 04 a little more closely, Kerry's MAIN selling point in the primary ...

campaign was his supposed electability, especially in contrast to perceptions of Dean and Kucinich. Electability is NOT the meme of people voting "with their heart", although in practice people are ROUTINELY stampeded into something like that, for the purposes of defeating a peace candidate or some other version of "doing the job" in US politics.

[dansolo]

62. Which is exactly what happened

In '04, the "with their heart" position was essentially anyone but Bush. The insiders kept circulating the meme that Kerry was more electable than Dean, and then the media followed up on it. It convinced the voters to go with Kerry, even though I believe that Dean would have been a much more formidable opponent for Bush, especially on the issues. The problem is that after the "Dean scream", and the ridicule that he got, people ran away from him as fast as they could. Without that, '04 could have been exactly like '08, a protracted primary battle between the two remaining candidates.

[corkhead]

33. he seems to have held up well against the Clinton "Smear & Dirty Tricks Machine"

Isn't it about time for you to aim your sights at the real enemy, McCain?

[Recursion]

36. So a candidate who can't beat him can beat McCain?

Seems like an odd statement.

[robertpaulsen]

39. As Steve Martin said to Lily Tomlin in All of Me, "Ahhh...good plan!"

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[electropop]

41. We supposedly went for "electable" with Kerry.

Should've gone with our hearts. In the end, the electable person is the one who really gets people excited, not the one who is the most vanilla or centrist.

[BooScout]

49. Soooooooo if Kerry was 'electable'......

and he thought he knew what he was doing......then why did he not get elected.......and why is he endorsing Obama now telling us all that he knows best? :shrug:

[electropop]

55. Well, that's my point - "electable" is a term injected by the establishment

bigwigs. It's usually used as a ruse when their anointed candidate is weak and bland - like Kerry. Kerry won the election but gave it away by not protesting Ohio and numerous other stolen areas. Therefore he's weak. He may have been strong years ago but somehow he lost his strength.

THough I am an Obama supporter, Kerry's endorsement made me think twice about it.

[thoughtcrime1984]

59. Clintons did a GREAT job of trying to help Kerry in 2004

They left him hanging out to dry is more like it. Calculating for the Clinton birthright Presidency in 2009.

[dionysus]

42. huffing is bad for you...

[BooScout]

44. I'm a fat old babyboomer.......

We huff a lot.:silly:

[dionysus]

48. lol!

:hi:

[TwilightGardener]

43. Frustrating, isn't it? Why doesn't he just realize he's a loser after all those wins?

:rofl:

[TomClash]

45. "It's time we start using our brains for a change."

You're right.

Barack has the most delegates.
He has won eight primaries in a row.
He has won more states.
He wins red states, blue states, states with blacks, states without blacks, states in the north, west, south and east.
He just won 55% of the white male vote in Virginia, home of the capital of the Confederacy.
He wins among independents, garners moderate republicans and draws young voters.
He's far better financed.
He draws crowds usually reserved for participants of indoor professional sporting events.
He's the best speaker this country has seen in years.
His policies and votes are generally progressive.
He basically muzzled Bill Clinton, one of the best and toughest politicians in the Democratic Party.

He grew up multiracial in a one race world, with no father, relying heavily on his maternal grandparents. He had an easy childhood.

He should quit now.

[Thrill]

47. We're using out heads. Thats why we're not going to nominate someone

who energizes the Repukes and doesn't attract independents

[miceelf]

53. LOL

I'll point out that when an Obama supporter starts a similar thread suggesting that Clinton get out, people get all upset about the "cult" and the "arrogance" and whatnot.

Why should this get different treatment?

[Johnny__Motown]

54. Because he has always had more elected delegates. Why doesn't Hillary step down, she can't win

All she ever had was her husband's Cronies who are Super delegates and said they would vote for her.

Face it, in Iowa she came in 3rd and Obama came in first. In N.H. she won the popular vote but it was so close that they both got the same number of delegates. In Nev. she won the popular vote but he won one more delegate than she did. He then won S.C. (both popular vote and delegates) then on Feb. 5th he won a few more delegates than she did. Since then he has won 8 straight (both popular vote and delegate count) and should win 2 more to make it 10 straight.


At no time has she been ahead in elected delegates. On no day has she won more delegates than Sen. Obama.


To Win you must.... WIN... delegates.....she can't seem to do that.


She should just pay back the five million dollars she loaned herself and hang it up. She bas begun to embarrass herself.

[sueh]

56. If he's not tough enough why is Hillary behind??

:P

[sloppyjoe25s]

57. Pure Joke Thread

just laugh and move along...

[Exultant Democracy]

58. This would be funny, but do you understand what would happen to the party is Obama conceded now

with his lead and all his momentum. People would assume the worst and the black vote would be lost to the democratic party probably forever. Are you too myopic to understand about blow-back?

[Spider Jerusalem]

60. Because, as noted, he's winning...

and it's an election, not a coronation. Last time I checked, this was still the Democratic Party, not the Royalist Party (despite what Clinton seems to think).

[workinclasszero]

61. Because Obama is the front runner

and the people's choice.

Hillary OTOH should immediately stop her divisive campaign and get behind the next president of the United States, President Obama!!!

GOBAMA!!!

[shaniqua6392]

65. He is the front runner this week.

He just became the front runner. Things change in politics really fast. It would be arrogant for anyone to say one candidate or another should drop out at this point. Why do Obama supporters think she is that far behind? It boggles my mind. They have been neck in neck for a while now. He is not the "people's choice" and neither is she. About half the Dems want her and about half the Dems want him.

[rodeodance]

63. good post--Shows the utter stupidity of Obamacampers and their 200 plus

threads on the same topic.

thank you.

[DS1]

64. Why doesn't the sun just take a day off

and not show up in the East?

[CreekDog]

66. If he is so weak, then why drop out in favor of someone who hasn't beaten him?

:shrug:

[harun]

67. Concede, he's in the lead?

Hillary is going down, but don't fret or frown
Obama can take on any freep, and blow em right down

[WonderGrunion]

71. It occurs to me

That as incredibly talented, powerful and gifted a campaigner as Hillary Clinton is, that when Obama finally beats her once and for all, no republican has a chance of taking him in the general election. Thanks Hillary and her supporters. you're making a juggernaut out of our future nominee.

[harun]

75. I agree, the Hillary machine is mightier than the McCain one (n/t)

[Dorian Gray]

68. Because he's winning?

Why doesn't Hillary concede? It's the same question.

Why would anyone concede in either of their positions at this point?

[Fox Mulder]

72. What a waste of a thread.

I thought the "Three threads in GDP rule" was meant for people to post more thoughtful threads, not crap like this.

FYI, Obama is winning. He has more delegates than HRC.

[Blue_Roses]

73. Why should anyone listen to you?

You don't even live in the US:eyes:

[AntiFascist]

74. Your post makes sense...

if you replace Obama with Hillary.