Has anyone noticed with Edwards gone health care isn't even discussed anymore?

[saracat]

With Edwards in the race we had countless examples of "real people' who needed care. We had James Lowe. We heard the story of the Sarkasians. Now there is silence. And the supporters of Obama are not interested in the fact he doesn't support universal health care.And somewhere in the mists of IOWA, they have forgotten that Barack promised health care industry and the corporations a seat at the table. He guaranteed it!Women have been marginalized and told sexism is acceptable.Even on DU misogynistic phrases are being defended.

Older people too have vanished and baby boomers,and those he sandwich years have been told our "time is done and we are irrelevant".And along with those, poverty has also vanished.The people living under a bridge and the homeless vets only exist in the world of an Edwards campaign.

Some days , it is sad to be a Democrat.

[Bluebear]

1. Just hope real hard, maybe we will have health care.

As to being old or homeless, those just are not photogenic, you realize.

[melody]

4. hey, the o is my fallback candidate but I thought this post was hilarous and true

Thank you -- best laugh I've had this week.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Both Hillary and Obama have the same provisions for subsidies and tax credits. If you want it,

it's equally available under both plans.

[saracat]

24. Obama himself admits he does not have a univrsal healthcare plan.

[Occam Bandage]

31. Beside the point. Under Clinton and Obama, you'd have equal access to healthcare.

[melody]

2. my husband and I were just discussing that

John drove the important points forward, regardless of what was working politically.

[PresidentObama]

5. That he did.

Even things that didn't poll as well, he focused on.

Like the 200,000 veterans sleeping on bridges.

That hit him with a lot of voters, but wasn't necessarily the biggest issue facing our country.

He still talked about it, and lead on it.

For as many people who called him a phony, he sure did ignore poll numbers and typical talking points on the issues, and spoke from the heart with passion.

[melody]

6. Well said. He's also still out there doing it -- that's the amazing thing about him n/t

[PresidentObama]

7. Yep. This isn't the last we've heard of Senator John Edwards.

He isn't going away.

He's a fighter. And most importantly, a leader.

[PresidentObama]

3. Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan mirrors Edwards. She's our best hope.

And I think healthcare has taken a backseat to the economy.

Even though, healthcare has a lot to do with the economy.

By the way, didn't Hillary just launch another new ad on healthcare?

[Cameron27]

8. Their plans are pretty much the same,

and Hillary does bring the issue up in every speech, and in every debate.

[adapa]

29. just to clarify, Edwards & Hillary's plans are the same

[PATRICK]

9. It was a vacuum

that said more than argument what the character of the two person horse race was about. Most of the issues vanished like the wind and the resulting highlighting of the "women" vs. blacks" made it appear to some of us as relatively trivial and distracting as we thought. Even sadly embarrassing. The brakes began to appear on the negative campaigning, imperfectly. The leader in the contest can always reap from the high road.

I am sure both these things and reconciling for the fall is an ongoing conversation Edwards still has with the two leaders.

The irony is that Obama and Clinton are more tailored toward wide base, fall type voter attraction and somehow this mitigates against putting very popular issues front and center. So things like this do intend to get worse. The main theme is all about the leadership issue. In issues, the GOP always lie together, while the Dems, though touting differences are pretty much together. The central issue likely IS
leadership no matter what content or leanings either one brings to the table. That and the still vague notion of coattail clout that even gets lost in the queasy electability fear card. Bread and butter issues rarely get into larger corporate/criminal disasters that are too large a subtext to shove out of view- but that is where they are, just like impeachment.

[dmosh42]

10. Nothing to worry about, Blue Cross, Cigna, etc. has the plans made!

After all, they care about us.

[Occam Bandage]

11. Um, actually, their one-on-one debate was mostly about healthcare. And they've frequently

mentioned healthcare since.

And nobody has said sexism is acceptable, so stuff that.

[Yael]

17. Sexism is the only reason Edwards supporters didn't jump to Hillary

or so I keep being told.

[Occam Bandage]

18. Yes, her DLC leadership position and the fact that she has taken more corporate money than anyone

has nothing to do with it.

[saracat]

26. The DLC loves Obama as does Wall street and Obama has taken his share of corporate money.

[Occam Bandage]

27. It may "love Obama," but Hillary is the only candidate who is actually on their board of leadership.

And Hillary has taken more corporate money and more lobbyist money than anyone else--and she's still losing the money battle to Obama's grassroots network.

[saracat]

25. Yes posters on DU have openly supported misogynism. And the candidates do speak of heathcare but not

their supporters.All the issues are dissed.And the supporters of one candidate are much worse than others on the issues. That is my observation and you do not have to agree.

[Occam Bandage]

28. Ah, the old "OMG DU IS IMPORTANT" attack. Weak.

[Yael]

12. You mean like the lead ad in Ohio featuring healthcare?

Saracat -- you really have to stop making things up.

This is what Obama used to kick off his Ohio campaign last week with large media buys:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_7xDxUn0AY8

[Occam Bandage]

14. Both of them are running healthcare ads, and both of them mention it in their stumps.

[Benhurst]

15. It's depressing to think about sick people, the old and homeless veterans.

I'd rather think about Hope! and Change! and who's going to win Survivor: Micronesia.

Why can't we all just be friends?

[BeyondGeography]

16. No, but I have noticed the lack of oxygen in the atmosphere and food on our tables

Please, John, come back, that we may all live again.

[LisaM]

19. What are you talking about? I saw Hillary last week and this was the main thing

She talked about.

The next morning, she met with nurses and about 5000 attendees for a Town Hall forum on health care - her ONLY topic for that event.

She's definitely talking about it, and she provided details too. Granted, this was 5 days ago, but our attention spans can't be THAT short.

[MagickMuffin]

20. Do you really believe Clinton wouldn't have the Health Care Industry at the table???

The DLC is bought and paid for through the health care industries.

Corporate contributors to the DLC and New Democratic Network include Bank One, Citigroup, Dow Chemical, DuPont, General Electric, Health Insurance Corporation of America, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, Philip Morris, RJR Nabisco, Chevron, Prudential Foundation, Amoco Foundation, AT&T, Morgan Stanley, Occidental Petroleum, Raytheon, and many other Fortune 500 companies.

http://www.nndb.com/group/269/000093987/

I tried with no success to find out who and what is Health Insurance Corporation of America, and I could not find out anything about them. Which lead me to the conclusion that it is a conglomerate of ALL insurance companies. It would be interesting to KNOW how much money the insurance industries are giving the DLC.

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I have heard both candidates talk about health care, maybe not as much as Edwards, but they mention it at all their rallies. Maybe I'm missing something. I have also heard them talking about the other issues you brought up.

Maybe you should start watching some of the rallies covered by C-SPAN. It might help to clarify these issues, that you seem to believe died with the Edwards campaign.

BTW, I was an Edwards supporter. But considering he isn't campaigning anymore I will have to choose between the two standing candidates which is a hard decision to make, and I don't have to make it until March 4th.

[Johnny__Motown]

21. Obama talks about it every speech, what have you been listening to?

[Exultant Democracy]

22. Both Obama and Clinton talked about health care last night, you seem to only find what you look for.

But in all seriousness I have yet to see either Clinton or Obama go one speech without talking about health care. Their surragates have also been playing up the issue.

In fact since Edwards left the race his talking points have been in extremly heavy rotation in both campaigns as they court the Edwards vote. Have you only been getting your news from GD:P? Seems funny that you have missed so much.

[saracat]

23. Since I can't edit, I will say it here. it is not that either candidate is not speaking about

healthcare. WE aren't and neither is the media. Get it.Edwards lasered a "focus" on it and many in the blogasphere and elswhere talked about the issues. Now they do not.

[jillan]

30. Hillary talks about it all of the time.

That has become her signature issue.

The homeless vets - she mentions them, but not to the extent of her discussing healthcare.

[Political Heretic]

32. hrm.... no? It's been a topic in every speech I've heard from both candidates.

Did you mean here at DU?