Why can't we just be honest?

[Little Star]

White women vote for Hillary for many reasons, and one of them is because they can relate to her because of her gender.

Black people vote for Obama for many reasons, and one of them is because they can relate to him because of his race.

I don't see anything wrong with either case, period.

[TheDonkey]

1. As for black people I do not agree. Obama trailed the black vote for quite sometime before the

election. How quick the media and people like you forget how Obama wasn't "black" enough and all that crap.

Clinton's divisive race-baiting campaign drove many black votes to Obama. As an African American I know many who are not anti-Clinton because of their racist campaign tactics.

[Blue_Roses]

2. I vote for people because they are human

and see the needs of the vast majority here in the United States. Not for creed, color, gender, or anything else.

[Debi]

3. Oh God...what am I?

I didn't 'vote' for either one of them! :cry:

[Kurovski]

4. The son of a mill-worker?

:shrug:

[Debi]

5. Not even!

I left our caucuses 'uncommitted' - I'm nothing :cry:

[Bucky]

9. Stop. Stop saying that. Go look in the mirror right now and tell yourself how loveable you are.

And then get off the fence, Hamlet!!!

[Debi]

26. I live in Iowa - our contest was Jan. 3rd.

I let uncommitted - now I will be voting for the nominee in November!

(Oh, and self-hug given :hug: I am loveable :P)

[Whisp]

22. means you are thinking.

don't side with black or woman on this.

like the contest has become, unfortunately.

[Debi]

27. Nominee - that's what I need to see!

:hi:

[KoKo]

16. John Edwards family as "Mill Workers" was such an "OLD STORY" no one listened to it!

Obama is the NEW WORLD of GLOBALIZATION. John spoke to those of us in America who are dying or dead as our Industry goes Abroad...and it doesn't really matter. It's OLD...GONE... That's why Edward's "message" just didn't get traction in our New World Global Economy America.

[goodgd_yall]

6. Wanting to advance equality

and the belief that the candidate will do some good things for you are other reasons. None of the ones you mention or I stated have anything wrong with them.

[Bucky]

7. The problem with your analysis is that it doesn't allow talking heads to obsess about it

How are they gonna fill that airtime if they can't jimmy up faux demographic hysteria?
Talk about candidates' stands on the issues or something weird like that?

[mtnsnake]

8. I agree. There is nothing wrong with that, especially considering how both have been held back

for centuries.

Well said, Little Star.

[Whisp]

10. Hillary relates to Big Money and Influence.

just like those other gendered people.

[KoKo]

14. If you read both their bio's...they came from Nothing...they are Middle America

the same as Obama ...although Obama's International Roots give him a greater weight for America Today.

Hillary and Bill and their Upward Mobility belong more to the 20th Century than Obama's does to the 21's Century.

One would hope that they would have "Much in Common," though. :shrug:

[Whisp]

18. we all have something in common.

stats say that some common is worth more than other common. some pigs are more equal than others.

they may have come from 'Nothing' (that's debatable, as I don't consider anyone 'nothing')
but the common is not in the scope of the Clinton or Bush, etc.

[KoKo]

20. I did that as a quick "metaphore"....Yeah... none of us come "from nothing"

but Politicians are always quick to point out...they "pulled themselves up by "bootstraps." yeah...

[Whisp]

24. with some help and friends and opportunities not all have.

makes me think about the talk about the Iraqi's. They should pull themselves up by the bootstraps. when the assault on them has been so long and so shock and awed,

it's their fault that the most powerful has been destructing them, for 16 plus years.
they should just pull up their bootstraps. there is something about Them that is the failure.

[KoKo]

25. Well...now you UNDERSTAND that Globilization Thingy....and why we are in Iraq

and how the "Powers that Be" corrupt us "who come from nothing"...but somehow managed to "get ahead" are feeling....

[Bucky]

28. Mrs Clinton is an American success story, but she hardly "comes from nothing"

Her family was solidly middle class, with plausible aspirations for upper middle class. For that matter, Obama grew up in an aspirations-rich environment. If his mother & step father didn't have a lot of money, their strong academic backgrounds certain gave the young Obama tyke an understanding of what opportunities there were in teh world and prepared him to take advantage of them. They're both walking examples of the vaue of strong education.

[KoKo]

11. I'm thinking that ALL of AMERICA...just "LONGS FOR SOME KIND OF HOPE!

We are SO DESPERATE...we will vote for a "PIG IN A POKE!" (don't trash me saying I'm calling Obama a "Pig" but do a Google to see the OLD EXPRESSION of that PHRASE..."Pig in a Poke." Meaning...we vote for HOPE ...not knowing what it reall means when the "REALITY" of it all hit's the "Pig or "Candidate" who was CHOSEN...and he or she has to DEAL WITH REALLY GOVERNING.

[rucky]

12. Yep. n/t

[davsand]

13. Nope. Doesn't work for this white woman.

Nice of you to point out that she's female and white, but that means exactly jack squat to me. I vote based on a whole lot more than estrogen levels and skin color.

YMMV.


Laura

[THUNDER HANDS]

15. black women voting for Obama would indicate

that they relate more to their race than their gender then, right?

[AlCzervik]

17. now you've done it.

this white woman voted for Obama.

[goldcanyonaz]

19. I'm a black woman who supports Clinton 100%.

[Adelante]

21. White woman. Obama. nt

[Uzybone]

23. Its the plain truth

once black Americans saw that Obama was not just a credible candidate but an exceptional one, they began to vote for Obama. There is nothing that Hillary can do to make a dent on the black vote for Obama.