CNBC is concertedly attacking Obama's economic plans right now.

[aquarius dawning]

Kudlow/Kramer

[TheDonkey]

1. but but but I thought he doesn't have plans???

[ClericJohnPreston]

65. And so it begins

finally.........

[ClericJohnPreston]

66. Gee

maybe they need some LINKS to help them.... :rofl:

[Freida5]

2. Finally, his inexperience is being recognized.

[ingac70]

7. By Larry Kudlow...

supply sider and Bush fluffer.

[still_one]

11. I about fell off my chair when the OP used kudlow as a viable critic

he is everything you say and much worse

[Cassandra]

29. Whose inexperience?

Kudlow's or Kramer's? They've both been talking crap for years.

[Birthmark]

3. So what?

Isn't that the sort of discussion that *should* take place among self-governing people?

[ingac70]

4. I'm sure Hillary supporters will be posting Kudlow's...

talking points shortly.

[Cadwallader]

38. "Hillary is a friend of Business"--Larry Kudlow

From several shows this past June

[elixir]

58. Oh, the Obama supporters turning the MSMs nastiness onto the clintons. So much for taking the

high road.

[Cha]

71. kudow and roseanne rock...

Kerry and Kennedy suck.

[Adelante]

72. Now you got it, zidz nt

[Cha]

75. I've been fully indoctrinated..

No wait..I'm still a member of the ObamaRamas!!:o

[bigdarryl]

5. I though he had no specifics when he gives them they attack him for giving specifics they need to..

make up there minds

[aquarius dawning]

8. Who cares, as long as they're giving him shitty press I'm a happy guy

:applause:

[Big Blue Marble]

34. You really want Kudlow and Kramer on your team?

Man that is real desperation on your part.

[TheDonkey]

10. Hillary supporters do not know what sort of slurs they can us any more

[Araxen]

6. Like Cramer has a clue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoFWRXzNc7U

[still_one]

9. If you believe anything coming out of the mouth of kudlow, I have swamp land in AZ to sell you

kramer is just a stark raving madman

If you are going to critisize Obama's economic plans, use someone with credibility

especially not kudlow

[Araxen]

12. and Cramer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoFWRXzNc7U

[still_one]

13. cramer is simply a lunatic, kudlow is a devious son-of-a-bitch /nt

[aquarius dawning]

16. So long as he's attacking Obama in front of millions of registered voters, I don't care

And I don't like Obama's economic plans BTW. Hillary's plan would be better. I live for money. If I thought Obama would be better for my bank accounts, I would vote for him in a second. I don't believe that however.

[ingac70]

20. Alot of people have lost money listening to these guys...

and following their "advice". I'm sure CNBC's viewers are taking what they say with a grain of salt.

[still_one]

26. I actually think it helps Obama, for the VERY reason you gave

people know their track record is screwed

[ingac70]

28. Me too...

Folks know now to do opposite what they say.

[still_one]

25. I can only tell you that the credibility that both kudlow and crammer has is NULL

In fact I would argue that if he is critisizing Obama in front of his audience, they will most likely consider that maybe Obama may not be so bad. If you looked at the record of those two clowns you would understand why I am saying this

As far as your other statement, that implies you believe Hillary will be better for your bank accounts. I can only tell you, if she becomes the nominee, kudlow will go even harder on her, and lets see how willing you will be to accept what he says then


Incidently, one of kudlow's good buds, bob brinker, has already come out and said Hillary and Obama will destroy the economy by taxing us

[Big Blue Marble]

35. Sorry, millions do not watch Kudlow and Kramer.

Probably more like 200,000 and they are all Republicans.


As I said desperation is a bitch.

[mopinko]

48. i think you are in the wrong place

the self-centered, greedy, me-first money lovers are on the right side of the aisle. but don't worry. we will, unfortunately, have to bail you out with everyone else. we're egalitarian that way.

[aquarius dawning]

56. No, I'm not. I love Hillary and I like kerry. Lots of democrats like money and, to be honest

the stock market is about all America really has left. If it fails, we are fucked six ways from Sunday. It's good for us to be keenly interested in it. And I'm not self-centered. You have no idea how selfless I really am in the real world. I'm an RN and I truly do care about others.

[mopinko]

59. sure, sure,

:eyes: whatever you say.

[Binka]

54. You Live For Money? And You Are Rooting Venomously Against A Dem?

Hope the pizza comes soon. Aquarius dawning my ass. Fuckwittage rising is more like it. Enjoy your stay. :hi:

[aquarius dawning]

62. I'm rooting against Obama. I've given Hillary about $700 so far.

so don't lay that "you aren't a Democrat" shit on me. And I'm sorry if you despise money but let's face it, it's pretty fucking important to a lot of people in this country Republican and Democrat alike. Millions of retired persons and elderly types depend on their investments to survive. They've worked hard to get there and deserve a candidate that will keep thir investments healthy. I don't think the younger generation truly realizes just how important the market is to this country. It means just about everything at this point.

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Up Next: Brownie Attacks FEMA Incompetence

It's equally preposterous, no?

:rofl:

[Tatiana]

15. I don't understand. How can they attack something that doesn't exist?

;)

[ingac70]

17. If Kudlow and Cramer are attacking it, it must be sound! n/t.

[Big Blue Marble]

41. You my dear have not followed the news today.

Obama speaks in Wisconsin on economic plan for working class.

[Tatiana]

69. I watched some of his visit to the GM plant and was impressed.

Of course he has plans. I was just poking fun at the fact that he obviously does have economic plans; otherwise the supply-siders wouldn't be attacking him.

I, for one, am looking forward to that FICA cap being raised. :hi:

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. Conservative Wall Street vultures attack Democratic economic plan

What a fucking surprise!

:rofl:

[aquarius dawning]

22. Conservative/Republicans attack Obama in front of millions of other Conservative/Republicans

This is the Republican attack machine gearing up for the guy you thought to be immune to such things.

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. I thought immune? Really? Or is it that

you just have imagined that people thought he was immune because you think it makes a good argument.

The fact is that nobody thought he was going to be immune from GOP attack. This is a cute little narrative that you've imagined in your head, just another example of the arguments of anti-Obama people running well ahead of reality.

Nobody thought he was going to be immune to Republican attacks. Nobody.

So your argument, essentially, sucks. There's no there there.

[aquarius dawning]

31. negative. that's all we have been hearing about is all those Republicans supporting Obama

Now that it looks like he will be our candidate, that support is diappearing. Yet we're gonna win red states because of his Republican support? yeah, we'll see.

[Big Blue Marble]

43. You are so ignorant.

Do you understand these guys hate empowering the working class.
They have spent their whole lives cheating working class people.

Kudlow invented the term "The Investor Class."

They are not your friends and by the way they hate Hillary.

[aquarius dawning]

67. yesterdays working class is today's investor class.

the very fate of this country and, quite possibly the world, depends on the US stock market doing well. There is not one thing in America that is more important at this point because soooo many working class Americans are invested in it and depending on it. What is a 65 year old retired factory worker going to do if his investments fail, go back to work? Where?

[alcibiades_mystery]

52. Sure it is...

You can pretend that people you disagree with are saying something easily refuted. That's fine. It's not honest, but it's fine. There's a difference between saying that SOME moderate Republicans will peel off and vote for Obama (refute that) and saying that he will not be attacked once he is the candidate. There's a gap the size of the grand canyon between those claims. You can pretend that they are the same, but nobody honest would agree with you. They are vastly different claims that you're conflating here because it makes a pithy argument. It's a fucking lie.

[anamandujano]

63. So far he has been immune to ANY scrutiny from MSM, this is a start.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Maybe it'll give you a glimpse of what will be. They should have started sooner.

[aquarius dawning]

68. careful. This is getting ugly.

[alcibiades_mystery]

74. I don't agree at all

But whatever keeps you warm at night.

[Araxen]

19. What's next?

Using Bill O'Reilly as a neutral view point between McCain vs Obama/Hillary?

[ingac70]

21. some dillweed had stuff by LaRouche...

on here about Obama a couple of days ago. Hillary supporters are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[islandmkl]

23. market pundits are the true whores of punditry...they do nothing

but cheerlead for Wall Street and its never-satisfied appetite for our money. It's all Business!! It's all good!! "Put your money in the market...it will be in fine shape in no time." Meanwhile, they are all in gold and foreign currencies. Pack of whore and healots.

[aquarius dawning]

30. I made $500 in the market today alone actually and I'm up $1,000 since since Feb1st.

january sucked but things are looking pretty good now. the perfect storm is subsiding.

[ingac70]

32. Looking so good...

the FDIC has a "deathwatch" list for some banks.

[aquarius dawning]

44. Really? I liked the Countrywide high yield savings acct interest rates but they're dropping now

due to the interest rates dropping I imagine. Either way, I think the recession has been thwarted and it's time to start jumping on some investments while they're down.

[ingac70]

47. ....

BoA had to save Countrywide's ass. Others may not be so lucky.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22606833/

[aquarius dawning]

55. yeah but it was all insured so it was a good shelter from the storm.

I'm not sure about other bank failures though. I'm not too concerned about it actually. it looks like the storm may have passed for now and I don't have my money with them.

[islandmkl]

42. congratulations...it's great that you have done, and can do, that

with the way the markets have been. No sarcasm intended or implied. You should share your knowledge. Do you follow external advice, or work the market your own way? Good luck.:thumbsup: It is good to hear a positive story from someone who isn't watching their pension, etc. manipulated by forces they can't control.

[aquarius dawning]

49. I'm invested conservatively and am waiting out the volatility.

I forgot about my high yield savings accounts too. I've made about $275 off those since Feb1st with zero risk and guaranteed returns. As the storm dies down, I'll start moving in on traditionally strong performers with good global exposure i.e. McDonalds, Coca Cola, etc. I'm looking to jump all over gold when it hits around $900 too. Chinese hunger for metals will drive the price up much higher than it is now. same for Platinum and less valuable metals. Also, did you notice the telecom stocks today. they responded as expected to the teelcom vote yesterday. I was thinking a Hillary win would be excellent for the Healthcare industry and I intended to jump all over that too but it looks like I'm going to have to rethink that. :(

[sendero]

24. Are you folks completely unaware..

.. that CNBC is just another MSM Fox-Like Repuke stroker?

It doesn't matter which Dem gets nominated, they will be attacked.

And their entire "rah rah" economic programming is a TOTAL JOKE.

[Big Blue Marble]

33. Good good news.

They both hate populism. That means it is a good plan for the rest of us.

:bounce:

[ingac70]

36. Interesting info on Cramer:

--in August 2007, a study by Barron's founded that Mad Money host Jim Cramer's stock choices on the show had consistently underperformed the stock market index, the Dow Jones Industrial Average. CNBC responded that Barron's was looking at the data incorrectly, but Barron's found that even when the data was using CNBC's metric, Cramer still had not performed better than the market.---

--in 2006 Cramer's suggested portfolio lost money "despite nearly every major equity market on earth being up between about 15% and 30%--


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money#Criticism

Anything he says has to be right! :sarcasm:

[TheDonkey]

37. To be fair this show is no longer Kudlow and Cramer but Kudlow and Company

and Jim Cramer is mostly a democrat.

[ingac70]

40. Jim Cramer is mostly a fool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_ygx02FTo

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[Big Blue Marble]

45. And you are.......??????

[mopinko]

51. is it me, or are

the sock puppets coming out of the woodwork? i was afraid this was going to happen.

[ZinZen]

46. You are using those two old Repug sqawkers

as reliable info? :spank:

[OHdem10]

50. Frontrunner get scrutinized. This is not attacking.

[beachmom]

53. That sounds like a good sign. nt

[Renew Deal]

57. Obama is pissing off the right people

Obama has arrived.

This is great news.

[anamandujano]

64. He will never piss off the REAL right people.

Before he got the big Keynote Speech (which is what is typically said to have made him an overnight Rockstar). B.O. passed the audition with the Washington-Wall Street nexus. He had to get vetted by the corporate-imperial players. Some of that is detailed in "Barack Obama, Inc." by Ken Silverstein (Harpers), which you can read online at

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/11/0081275

[cooolandrew]

60. Well thealternative is to go with the out of pocket campaign.

[Telly Savalas]

61. Hillary may have Kudlow in her corner

but Obama still has a shot at getting the backing of other pundits of his calibre. I think Michelle Malkin and Charles Manson are still both undecided.

[islandmkl]

70. in reference to #49: Gold is at about US$907.95 at 8:28 p.m. EST

might want to pay attention about that $900 point

[chascarrillo]

73. Someone get tombstoned recently?

Interesting