2006 CLINTON DONORS: Hillary sold yr name to InfoUSA for mere $80k, in return for Clinton Library $$

[Dems Will Win]

This is a big deal it seems. Candidates sell lists but NEVER doing the campaign!! What was she thinking?

Clintons' InfoUSA Ties Scrutinized
by Peter Overby

Last year, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton took the unusual step of renting out some of her lists. The transaction once again highlights the Clintons' connections to a businessman who now faces questions from the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Reports from Clinton's campaign show that on Dec. 3, it collected payment for renting out three mailing lists, the sale of which netted them $8,225.

It was an unusual transaction, according to Roger Craver, a liberal guru of the political direct-mail industry.

...

According to one direct-mail professional, $800,000 would have seemed like a more plausible price for a quality list...

Vin Gupta has a long history of giving and raising campaign money for the Clintons, and gave $1 million for the 2000 Millennium Celebration, a New Year's Party thrown by the Clintons.

...

Gupta spent $900,000 of corporate money flying the Clintons to various destinations. The Clinton campaign said in May that Info U.S.A. had been reimbursed to comply with federal campaigning and ethics rules.

After the Clintons left the White House, Gupta hired Bill Clinton as a consultant. It's one of two continuing business relationships he has had since leaving office, and it has been worth $3.3 million, in addition to the options on 100,000 shares of stock.

...

The corporate spending on behalf of the Clintons helped fuel a shareholder lawsuit against Gupta and 10 corporate directors.

There are plenty of other allegations in the suit about homes, cars, and a yacht for Gupta. A Delaware chancery court judge dismissed some of the allegations involving the Clintons. But the case is still proceeding. It has led to an informal inquiry by the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is also asking if Gupta misspent corporate funds.

...

The Clinton campaign said Wednesday that the lists were rented out by her 2006 Senate campaign committee — and that the rentals took place before she began her formal campaign for president last January.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18958566

What do you think of Hillary selling donor names to this spamming company, whose CEO Gupta is under investigation for questionable contribtions and dealings with the Clintons?

PLEASE RECOMMEND SO PEOPLE REALIZE WHAT THEY ARE GETTING FOR IN TERMS OF SPAM IF THEY DONATE TO CLINTON

[mrreowwr_kittty]

1. Not good. nt

[papau]

2. the donnors know because they gave permission to the library - got any mote smears/lies?

[KittyWampus]

11. the list was worth $800,000 but Gupta only paid $8000. Gupta's sued f/giving Bill Clinton millions

Gupta is being investigated by the SEC

He has a long history of giving huge amounts to the Clintons.

Shareholders sued him for lavishing millions on Bill Clinton for nothing.

[burythehatchet]

33. Yeah, I'm sure the donners knew that their names were being sold

to a criminal telemarketing firm. If you're a donner and you knew and you agreed, then I can see whay would support Hillary.

[Catchawave]

3. My husband is a republican, and gets snail mail from the Obama camp?

Did they buy the Virginia DMV list? Just a guess, since the envelopes are addressed with the same DMV name on his license. (full name, no military rank)

[Spangle]

6. How is it listed on his voter Reg?

Those running for office are allowed a copy of the registered voters data in the area that they are running.

Interesting that he is all ready targeting repugs. Mail outs are $$$, so most 'target' those most likely to listen. That would be swing voters. Such as third party members.

[democrattotheend]

38. VA does not have party registration

So there's no way to know that he is a Republican. It is not uncommon for campaigns to buy voter lists (or maybe DMV records, don't know about that). But selling the donor lists to for-profit corporations is pretty unusual, I think.

[AlertLurker]

55. Strangely enough, I am a Candian and I get it, too.

Sent to a Canadian address. Plus about four e-mails a day.

I never donated (it's not allowed) - All I bought was a sweatshirt at the beginning of the campaign from each of Obama, Kucinich and Biden.

Weird.

[HeraldSquare212]

4. Democrats' Data Mining Stirs an Intraparty Battle

The Clinton campaign (or, Harold Ickes, who is part of the campaign) has been doing a lot of work on data mining. People were kind of pissed that they were duplicating what the DNC was doing, and doing it for profit instead of to help all Dem candidates. But, with the Clintons, it's always about the Clintons.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030701860.html


A group of well-connected Democrats led by a former top aide to Bill Clinton is raising millions of dollars to start a private firm that plans to compile huge amounts of data on Americans to identify Democratic voters and blunt what has been a clear Republican lead in using technology for political advantage.

The effort by Harold Ickes, a deputy chief of staff in the Clinton White House and an adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), is prompting intense behind-the-scenes debate in Democratic circles. Officials at the Democratic National Committee think that creating a modern database is their job, and they say that a competing for-profit entity could divert energy and money that should instead be invested with the national party.

[Spangle]

12. Oh Crud

I" haven't been involved this last couple of years. But when I was, what avalibe was crap. We were required to buy from the state party, and it was useless. Several 'data/computer geeks' from several countys got to getter and started doing our own. Several county groups helped funded it. Ours was better, had more data, etc.

The State was PISSED and keeped trying to stop us from doing this. Used the same excuse. Even tho we still bought their trash and filed it.

OH,and the canidates didn't get it for free either. They had to PAY for it.

So if this group is doing this, there must be a reason they see such a need.

Back in 2004 election, the republican party was bragging about their voter data base, that was so good they could catch people voting in several states. Our GOVERMENT doesn't even have that ablity.

[HeraldSquare212]

14. But did you do it for profit? what hapened to the product of what you put together?

I've done things like put together lists of media contacts, etc., but I've always passed those along to other people.

[Spangle]

16. Ah....

What exactly is profit? Something that big, would take a full time staff. People who need a pay check in order to devote real time and attention to it.

If they are wanting to expand the data offered, that is more specialized persons doing specialized research. Again, that cost money.

When we did it (and I wasn't one of the computer persons) we were shocked that our party didn't all ready have this stuff ready to go. We were SHOCKED!

Let me repeat,we had to BUY a worthless list. The 'profit" when to the state, who gave it to a canidate somewhere else. Not our area, cause we didn't get much back. Money goes UP the hill, it rarely comes down. So how was that going to 'help' our local canidates trying to get elected? It didn't. And we had NO WHERE else to go. If we could have bought it, we would have. Our 'people' on the ground is very limited and their ablities could have been used doing something else.

My gripe with all this is from what I 'know" from dealing with this in the past, those Canidates have NEVER gotten anything for free. Everything is bought and sold. They pay for everything. But yet, this article is trying to make this group sound 'dirty' cause the canidates are going to have to pay. Like this is some sort of new thing.

What will be new, is the canidates have an option to buy something decent. If this group makes crap, no one will buy it. It will be that simple. If these people want to devote themselfs full time doing this, they will have to turn out a quality product in order to bring home a pay check.

[sandnsea]

5. Vin Gupta - so much for vetting

He's one I've been talking about.

"..Such expenditures caught the attention of fund managers who had invested in infoUSA. The funds filed a lawsuit last year accusing Mr. Gupta of wasting millions of dollars on the payments to Mr. Clinton, as well as houses, cars and a yacht for himself and corporate-jet flights for the Clintons and Mr. McAuliffe. Mr. Gupta denies misspending company money.

The funds have also questioned Mr. Gupta’s decision to pay a substantial premium last December to acquire the Opinion Research Corporation, which has done opinion surveys for CNN since April 2006. In January, CNN began using Opinion Research for its presidential polling, leading conservative bloggers to ask if Mr. Gupta, as a Clinton supporter, should have influence over CNN’s polling..

Mr. Gupta began to withdraw from Democratic politics after The New York Times and other papers ran articles in May about the lawsuit, and about the sales of infoUSA call lists to telemarketers who exploited the elderly."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/14/us/politics/14gupta.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

[Tatiana]

44. Oh they're fully vetted. Yep. And experienced. At wasting money, apparently. n/t

[Renew Deal]

7. Last week Hillary supporters were paying off her loans

This week she sells your info. Pathetic.

[ProSense]

8. Where did Hillary Clinton get the money for her $5 million loan to her campaign?

CAMPAIGN FINANCE

Accounting 101: The Clintons

Where did Hillary Clinton get the money for her $5 million loan to her campaign?


On Board: Hillary and Bill Clinton on her campaign plane last month
By Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff | NEWSWEEK
Feb 18, 2008 Issue | Updated: 2:45 p.m. ET Feb 9, 2008


Hillary and Bill Clinton are not nearly as wealthy as, say, Mitt Romney, but her recent $5 million emergency loan to her own presidential campaign has made one thing clear: the Clintons are doing just fine, thanks. Other matters related to the loan are less clear. For starters, where did Hillary Clinton find the cash? Her aides were reluctant to provide details. In e-mail responses to NEWSWEEK, campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson wrote that she "didn't borrow any money" and noted that she "has made considerably more than" $5 million from her 2003 memoir, "Living History." The loan itself, Wolfson wrote, "came from Senator Clinton's (50 percent) share" of joint resources with her husband.

Clinton, unlike rival Barack Obama, has not released her tax returns. But disclosure forms that Clinton filed with the Senate provide some clues to her family finances. They show Bill Clinton has earned tens of millions of dollars in recent years giving speeches at rates of up to $450,000 apiece. During one week in 2006, the former president collected $1.7 million for talks in Europe and South Africa. (He also collected speaking fees from Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, the Mortgage Bankers Association and other big firms.) The documents are more circumspect about other Clinton financial interests, including his annual income as a "partner" in billionaire pal Ron Burkle's businesses and from Vinod Gupta's InfoUSA. Both payouts are listed as "over $1,000"—a description that is legally adequate but not very enlightening. Clinton spokespeople recently said the former president is preparing to sever his dealings with Burkle and Gupta "should Senator Clinton become the Democratic nominee," in order to avoid any conflicts. But Gupta, whose firm has paid Bill at least $3.3 million since 2003, told NEWSWEEK that he is still paying fees to him; Burkle's spokesman could not be reached for comment.

When the Clintons left the White House, they were drowning in legal bills. But by last year, they had sufficient cash flow to pay off the mortgage on their home in Washington, D.C. According to local property records, they took out a 30-year, $1.995 million mortgage in 2001 but paid it off in full last November. (The Clintons also own a home in Chappaqua, N.Y., but there is no record of a similar mortgage payoff.) Election-law experts say that it is legal for candidates to make unlimited loans—or outright donations—to their own campaigns, as long as they do not seek public campaign subsidies. Candidates can even charge their campaigns interest, as John Kerry did in 2004. But a Clinton campaign adviser, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters, said that fund-raisers have been told that Hillary's loan is interest-free. Wolfson wrote that the campaign had signed a promissory note for the loan and that Clinton could forgive the debt if she wishes, though the campaign adviser said "she expects to get paid back when this is over."

Hillary's Curious Campaign Loan

[K Gardner]

40. On one of the sites, Hillary has listed under her personal finances most, if not all,

of Bill's speaking fees. No, don't have the link or time to retrieve it right now :-) Of course, it's perfectly legal to claim joint spousal income.. after reading this, I'm guessing the problem comes with where the money/fees came from.

[Hepburn]

9. Another good reason to NOT support her, IMO. n/t

[Dems Will Win]

29. Vote ABC

[cd3dem]

66. I have been getting emails from Hillary for several years and I get no spam... this post is spam...

you get spam and get on lists many ways... this is a ridiculous post trying to get people not to send Hillary money...

it reaks of stupidity!!!

[TalkAgain]

10. OMG!

[mckeown1128]

13. KICK & REC nt

[Colobo]

15. Not good. At all.

[Stephanie]

17. Quid Pro Quo

Now we need to know what they gave Giustra, Burkle, and Dubai.

[stillcool]

18. Good friend to have....

The Government Division of infoUSA offers the most accurate business and household data available for use by government agencies.

We are proud to Serve:

* Federal, State, County, and Municipal Agencies;
* Social Security Administration; U.S. Postal Service; U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics;
* U.S. Air Force; U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs; U.S. Food and Drug Administration;
* U.S. Customs Service; Internal Revenue Service; Department of State;
* Small Business Administration; Bureau of ATF;
* Health and Human Services; multiple prime and subcontractors.

http://www.infousagov.com

Press Release Source: infoUSA
2008 Will See Price Increases According to infoUSAPoll.com(TM)
Monday February 11, 12:55 pm ET

A $750 million public company,
over 4 million customers.

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eTail 2008

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----------------------------
About Yesmail

Yesmail is a recognized industry-leading provider of online emarketing solutions. Built on a solid core of innovative technology, Yesmail offers a complete portfolio of email marketing solutions for businesses of all sizes including, Yesmail Enterprise, Yesmail Express, Yesmail Direct, Yesmail Media and Yesmail Data Boost. Yesmail exceeds the expectations of Fortune 500, mid-size companies and small businesses worldwide powering their strategies with highly trained account teams and best practices consulting. Clients specializing in consumer products, retail, publishing, travel and finance are well served globally with award-winning solutions localized in single-byte and double-byte languages. Yesmail was founded in 1997 and is a subsidiary of infoUSA. Yesmail corporate headquarters are located in Portland, Oregon, USA and has offices in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Omaha, Toronto, London and Singapore. For more information visit www.yesmail.com or call 1.877.Yesmail.

About infoUSA

infoUSA (www.infoUSA.com), founded in 1972, is the leading provider of business and consumer databases for sales leads & mailing lists, database marketing services, data processing services and sales and marketing solutions. Content is the essential ingredient in every marketing program, and infoUSA has the most comprehensive data in the industry, and is the only company to own 12 proprietary databases under one roof. The infoUSA database powers the directory services of the top Internet traffic-generating sites. Nearly 4 million customers use infoUSA's products and services to find new customers, grow their sales, and for other direct marketing, telemarketing, customer analysis and credit reference purposes. infoUSA headquarters are located at 5711 S. 86th Circle, Omaha, NE 68127 and can be contacted at [phone]. To know more about Sales Leads, click www.infousa.com. To get a 7-day free trial and 100 free sales leads, click www.salesgenie.com.

Clinton Global Initiative
ORGANIZATION
Founded 2005, "a non-partisan catalyst for action, bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world’s most pressing challenges."

Official Website:
http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/

Susan E. Arnold Global Business President, Proctor & Gamble
Richard Branson Founder of Virgin chain
Laura Bush First Lady under George W. Bush
Bill Clinton 42nd US President, 1993-2001
Edward Djerejian US Ambassador to Israel, 1994
Vin Gupta CEO, InfoUSA
Norman Hsu Notorious Democratic donor
Julian H. Robertson, Jr. Tiger Management
Hector Ruiz Chairman and CEO, AMD
http://www.nndb.com/org/780/000119423/

[JPZenger]

20. Enjoy all that spam, wonderful spam, spam, spam

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18958566

InfoUSA is a huge data collection company that compiles all kinds of databases of information on people and sells the data to other corporations and governments. In fact, Federal agencies often turn to commercial databases when Federal law prevents them from keeping certain types of information in their own files.

InfoUSA can then cross-reference many databases to create highly targeted lists, such as Lexus drivers who contributed to Clinton.

So if you contributed to Clinton's campaign, expect a lot more commercial spam and junk mail. Click here if you want to instantly enlarge part of your anatomy.

I have only heard of campaign mailing lists being borrowed by other campaigns. For example, one person said Kerry apparently lent his donor list to Obama.

[stillcool]

26. No wonder those email smears...

got so much play!

[GoldieAZ49]

19. Who wants to donate to get on a junk mail list

not me!!!!!!!

[JPZenger]

22. It is not just one junk list, it is a commercial database

If they had sold the list to Harry's Mattress City, that would be a junk list. Instead, they sold it to a huge conglomerate that is a data miner. That list will be incorporated into everything else they know about you for many years.

[AtomicKitten]

21. They're trying to raise cash; duct tape isn't holding the campaign together any longer.

[alteredstate]

23. I read about this a few weeks ago.

Ugh.

[berni_mccoy]

24. Wow. This is terrible.

[JPZenger]

25. NYTimes: InfoUSA sells info to criminals for identify theft

Here is an excerpt of a New York Times article about InfoUSA from May 20, 2007 entitled "Bilking the Elderly"

"The thieves operated from small offices in Toronto and hangar-size rooms in India. Every night, working from lists of names and phone numbers, they called World War II veterans, retired schoolteachers and thousands of other elderly Americans and posed as government and insurance workers updating their files. Then, the criminals emptied their victims’ bank accounts.

Richard Guthrie, a 92-year-old Army veteran, was one of those victims. He ended up on scam artists’ lists because his name, like millions of others, was sold by large companies to telemarketing criminals, who then turned to major banks to steal his life’s savings. InfoUSA sold his name, and data on scores of other elderly Americans, to known lawbreakers, regulators say.

InfoUSA advertised lists of “Elderly Opportunity Seekers,” 3.3 million older people “looking for ways to make money,” and “Suffering Seniors,” 4.7 million people with cancer or Alzheimer’s disease. “Oldies but Goodies” contained 500,000 gamblers over 55 years old, for 8.5 cents apiece. One list said: “These people are gullible. They want to believe that their luck can change.”

After criminals tricked him into revealing his banking information, they went to Wachovia, the nation’s fourth-largest bank, and raided his account, according to banking records. Mr. Guthrie said in an interview. “I didn’t even know they were stealing from me until everything was gone.” Telemarketing fraud, once limited to small-time thieves, has become a global criminal enterprise preying upon millions of elderly and other Americans every year, authorities say. Vast databases of names and personal information, sold to thieves by large publicly traded companies, have put almost anyone within reach of fraudulent telemarketers. And major banks have made it possible for criminals to dip into victims’ accounts without their authorization, according to court records."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/business/20tele.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1202961510-E6B8gCWqPDDZcl1qPaA6Qw

[Dems Will Win]

28. THIS DESERVES ITS OWN THREAD!

[burythehatchet]

32. Very good. Please post this separately.

[Barack_America]

35. Ho-ly shit.

Is this a thread yet? Please.

If you're over your limit let me know and I'll post it, giving you the credit.

[K Gardner]

42. Good job finding this, thanks.

[Tatiana]

45. God, this is awful! n/t

[TexasObserver]

27. For Hillary, it's par for the course. Do or say anything.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. The excerpt says $8,225. n/t

[TeamJordan23]

31. Vin Gupta (Info USA) was behind those racist SalesGenie.com Super Bowl ads. nm

[Barack_America]

34. Gross. Just gross.

And inexcusable.

[psychopomp]

36. An enlightening thread

:kick:

[democrattotheend]

37. Makes me really glad I resisted pressure to donate

I used to work at an organization that was supporting Hillary Clinton's presidential bid, and there was some pressure on the staff to donate. I didn't, because even while I worked there and tried to get enthusiastic about HRC, in my heart I supported Obama, though I did not feel nearly as strong then as I do now. This makes me all the more grateful that I resisted the pressure.

[Barack_America]

39. This needs to be kicked! n/t

[K Gardner]

41. Why would she do that for a lousy $8,000? Very damning article.

[catgirl]

51. It also says he gave Bill Clinton assets and money

for NOTHING.

[bigtree]

43. the headline's a lie. It was a paltry $8,000. The only reason it's significant

is the early sell. They are sold ALL the time.

[Stephanie]

46. Makes you wonder what deals they might have cut with Burkle and Giustra >

Ron Burkle

Frank Giustra

[MagickMuffin]

47. Same Song Different Tune, Terry McAuliffe is a Professional at this sort of thing

While he was Clinton's fundraiser, McAuliffe accepted $375,000 "contingency fee" from Prudential Insurance for a lease deal with Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation. Such contingency fees are considered bribes and are against Federal law.


Invested $100K in Global Crossing, which turned into $18M. McAuliffe did work for Global Crossing's CEO Gary Winnick. Luckily McAuliffe got his money out before accounting irregularities were revealed demonstrating that GC had an inflated stock price, resulting in the company's bankruptcy.


I certainly have a big problem with who Hillary chooses to surround herself with: Terry McAuliffe, Mark Penn, James Carville, and of course her husband. Definitely shows her lack of judgement.

[RaleighNCDUer]

48. What's that? She's been thoroughly vetted? There's nothing new

that can possibly be thrown at her?









Right.

[Baby Snooks]

49. Just another reason not to vote for Hillary

The Clintons care only about one thing. Raking it in. Money has become their god. And their agenda. They are, after all, Bushes now.

[stillrockin]

50. I am shocked, simply shocked!

;)

[1776Forever]

52. Vin Gupta: The man the Clintons love - Must Read!!

...........In 1995, when Clinton was running for re-election, Kapur, organised on behalf of the Democratic National Committee, the first major fund-raiser among Indian Americans for the Clinton re-election campaign, which raised over $500,000.

Gupta, besides being one of the single biggest individual contributors -- whom Kapur by now had coveted and cultivated -- was afforded the honour of introducing Clinton, which he did with rousing gusto.

Vin Gupta: The man the Clintons love

Aziz Haniffa in Washington, DC | May 30, 2007

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/may/30vin.htm

From then on, Gupta courted the Clintons and in turn, was afforded the opportunity of spending a night in the White House Lincoln Bedroom -- the first Indian American to do so.

As his sustained contributions to the Democrats continued to flow, Clinton offered him the post of first Counsel General to Bermuda and then the Ambassadorship to Fiji, both of which Gupta declined. While he maintained this was for business reasons, it was rumored to be because there were doubts his nomination would be confirmed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee due to alleged violations of Securities and Exchange Commission rules.

Just before his second term ended, Clinton appointed Gupta as a member to the prestigious Board of Trustees of the John F Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

But even with Clinton out of the White House, Gupta's friendship with the now former President grew, and he brought him on as a consultant to infoUSA and, according to the lawsuit, beyond nearly $3 million in consulting fees, had flown the Clintons and himself to Acapulco, Mexico, on a vacation in 2002 and also to Switzerland, Hawaii and Jamaica. He was also said to have provided corporate jets for Mrs Clinton at least seven times since 2002, although it was unclear whether he had done so after she began her Presidential campaign.

FEC records showed that Gupta also donated $19,500 to her Senate campaign, presidential campaign and her political action committee since 2001.

************
HILLARY CLINTON (D-PUNJAB)’S
PERSONAL FINANCIAL AND POLITICAL TIES TO INDIA

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/memo1.pdf

The Clintons have reaped significant financial rewards from their relationship with the Indian community, both
in their personal finances and Hillary’s campaign fundraising. Hillary Clinton, who is the co-chair of the
Senate India Caucus, has drawn criticism from anti-offshoring groups for her vocal support of Indian business
and unwillingness to protect American jobs. Bill Clinton has invested tens of thousands of dollars in an Indian
bill payment company, while Hillary Clinton has taken tens of thousands from companies that outsource jobs to
India. Workers who have been laid off in upstate New York might not think that her recent joke that she could
be elected to the Senate seat in Punjab is that funny.

***********
:hide: But Hillary is for keeping and growing US jobs isn't she??????????

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:spank:

[MilesColtrane]

53. If it quacks like a quid pro quo...

It's a quid pro quo.

Shameless.

On another note, I'm disgusted to see that some of the cash I donated to John Kerry four years ago went straight into his personal fortune in the form of interest on the money he loaned his campaign.
Nobody grubs money like millionaire politicians.

[RoadRage]

54. Ahh.. Vin Gupta. The one reason Hillary SHOULD have won Nebraska..

This ass clown and Info USA are based out of Omaha... he's the worst guy on earth to work for.. he walks into a room with a sales team that doesn't hit their monthly quota - and fires everyone. Nevermind if they've hit the quota for the past 10 months, nevermind if the quota is an unrealistic number.

He's notorious for crap like that.. why am I not surprised he's friends with the Clintons.

[From The Left]

56. Hillary's Harpies Won't Like This

No wonder she refuses to release her tax record as Obama gladly it.

With the Clintons, it's all about the secrets.

[frog92969]

57. Surprised?

[jeff30997]

59. Hehehe.

Nope.:)

[K Gardner]

58. Kick

[jeff30997]

60. ...&R !

:)

[tishaLA]

61. Just very sad.

I feel bad for her lack of judgment. She really does seem willing to do anything....

[ElsewheresDaughter]

62. my post mistress will have to deal with it

[Moh96]

63. here is a video about Hillary's questionable fund raising practices

part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&feature=related

[Tarheel_Dem]

64. kick...

:kick:

[cd3dem]

65. I know people who have been dead for 20 years who are still listed!

maybe they are giving money to Hillary

these places get your name from when you buy tabs for your car... this is about as stupid as it gets!

I have gone to these sites and they have your name and number already! Every time you do anything your name is dumped on a list.. google yourself sometime!... crap I found my name on several sites and have for years... you have to ask them to take you off...

try going here and find out if Obama sold your name! ludicrous!!!!!

http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/index.jsp

[boppers]

67. Ouch.

Please don't let this woman be our candidate. She just managed to lose the vote of everybody sick and tired of SPAM and junk mail, by *supporting* the freaking industry.

It's simply breathtaking in its arrogance, supporting the private TIA firms, by sending data *on her supporters*.