Obama is our Jimmy Carter....

[patrick t. cakes]

and Im stoked!:D :thumbsup:

[DiamondJay]

1. well if ur prepared to accept the fact he will ruin the party

then I guess he is. Jimmy Carter helped us to 12 years of Reagan and Bush. thats if Obama can even get elected among an electorate i don't think is ready for him.

[thunder rising]

2. A little rain I see. Oh well .... goooooObama!!!

[sniffa]

4. I'm shocked you'd say that

I'm sorry, I meant not shocked.

[cooolandrew]

49. Yeah comparing him to Carter is far better omens, a Carter with an addtional term in office.

[jackson_dem]

13. If he wins he would be okay but he is unlikely to win without experience against McCain

[cd3dem]

14. the Clinton's were swiftboated by the media

What did they swiftboat Kerry on? His greatest strength! His military service!

What did they swiftboat the Clinton's on? There ties to the African American community! Bill Clinton the first black president! Brilliant on the part of the republican thinking tanks... and we the dumb liberal sensitive idiots we are fell for it and decided one of our own would go down...

Now we have Obama.... and the republicans are jumping over to vote for him in the remainder of the races b/c McCain has it sewn up... and we are drinking kool-aid because we can't afford anything better... jumping on bandwagons full of kool-aid... and everyone is so excited about Obama's speeches on hope and change that we actually think Independents and moderates will vote for our more liberal candidate... and that Obama is going to be able to debate McCain on National Security because he wasn't in the senate to vote on IWR... boy are we smart!!!!!

We are a bunch of stupid liberals!!!!

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[elixir]

40. "Best Post of the Day"

[hill08]

35. You are so right.

Sometimes I think that Dems just want to feel good about themselves choosing losers to run while rationalizing their poor choices of nominees. They will nominate the first black candidate, will be very proud of it, and will blame closet racists when Obama loses.

[MagickMuffin]

51. No, he is NOT

Projection much there lil' hill08.

[cd3dem]

57. it isn't that he is black and people are racist... he has no experience to handle the BS Bush made!

they can easily argue with him that he has no experience with hard core smears... he has walked untouched and the republicans could really give a crap who they piss off to win!

tired of hearing about how the Clinton's used "code" language... what is Obama going to do when President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran uses "code" words? Is he running for president or what?

it isn't about nominating a black person or a woman... it is about nominating someone who is ready!

[MagickMuffin]

50. We don't KNOW if either one of our candidates can beat McLameBrain

And we certainly will be helping the rethuglicons along if we don't start acting like the Democratic Party, instead of all this infighting.

I have tried to defend both our candidates, but alas it doesn't look like it's doing any good at all.

The proof is in your post.

[Hippo_Tron]

18. No, all of the bad luck that Jimmy Carter faced got us 12 years of Raygun/Bush

[RaleighNCDUer]

34. And that bad luck was helped along BIG TIME by Bushco.

Or was it maybe just a corincidence that the hostages were released 5 minutes after Reagan was sworn in.

[RaleighNCDUer]

32. You obviously know NOTHING about Jimmy Carter. nt

[LittleClarkie]

48. I expect the Clintons to ruin the party, actually, if they get in.

Considering the way the party atrophied in the 90's, and the way her surrogates talk about Dean and his 50 state strategy, I expect her to only put money into states where she thinks she can win, and never mind electing other Dems along with her. No coattails.

[goodgd_yall]

3. If he wins the GE, I guess that means he's a one-termer. n/t

[cgrindley]

5. Awesome! I can hardly wait for my mortgage to go to 21%

really. that's a dumb thing to say. I love Obama, and I love Carter, but god help us, I certainly hope that Obama's fiscal luck is a little better than Jimmy's.

[cd3dem]

19. we are headed into a recession... now... what is Gobama gonna do?

What experience does he have? health care for 150,000 people in Illinois? that will prepare a person to run a country! What has he accomplished and told anyone about as a senator?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?_r=1&ex=1202792400&en=c2c725d6db4ac9cf&ei=5070&emc=eta1&oref=slogin

[MagickMuffin]

52. NEWSFLASH: Obama will NOT be running the country all by himself

Sheesh, Seems like you do not understand our democracy at all.

You should educate yourself on the topic.

[cd3dem]

54. Newsflash: the president should know more than his VP and cabinet!

[fightthegoodfightnow]

22. As if Nixon's Price Controls Had Nothing to do with THAT !

Carter was smart enough not to spend $450 billion on a war that cost thousands of lives because his judgement and pride were impaired due to 90 hostages being taken in Iran.

[mtnsnake]

6. I don't get it

:shrug:

[dionysus]

46. hit this.. then you'll get it man....

:hi:

[HeraldSquare212]

7. Jimmy Carter never figured out how to work Washington.

I think Obama is pretty schooled in that.

[goldcanyonaz]

8. You say this likes it's a good thing....

I don't know many people who thought he was a great leader.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

17. Yea It Is

............. and let me tell you why.......... Carter didn't spend 450 Billion and sacrifice thousands of lives on a war because his pride got in the way of his judgment when some 90 Americans were taken hostages as horrific as that was.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. Carter saw the problem of America's dependence on foreign oil before anybody else did

If America had listened to Jimmy Carter back in 1979 we'd be driving hydrogen powered cars and certainly not fighting in Iraq.

[Straight Shooter]

9. Not. even. close. n/t

[Freida5]

10. No, Jimmy Carter won against Ford. I think more Dukakis who was also supported by

Ted Kennedy

[WilyWondr]

11. and that would make Hillary who?

George Wallace

:shrug:

Nice

[sniffa]

12. I'd say not at all

I can see the comparisons to JFK because of his oratory, and inspiration (hey, even my Republican mom - who used to be a hard core activist Dem in her 20s, but is now a rabid Dem hater - likes him), but after reading his speech/plan for the economy, I'm ready to say he's the new FDR. I've been having this economic discussion for months now with Bi-Baby (the Economics major of our household), that what FDR did to boost the economy by creating government funded jobs was genius. That is the solution as opposed to just giving away a check (that you have to repay the next year) for the common masses to spend. Give them self-sustaining jobs (that will also make them valuable when the Fed program ends) and they'll spend that money and more on the economy.

[Yossariant]

15. Uh...no.

[McCamy Taylor]

16. He has Jimmy Carter's charisma and optimism, along with actual political experience

Best of both worlds!

[WCGreen]

20. I hope he isn't...

Because Carter made a much better ex president than he did a serving one...

There wasn't nearly as much hoople around Carter as there is around Obama...

I was a campus orgnaizer for Carter and the buzz just wasn't there...

[fightthegoodfightnow]

23. So Was I

I was a precinct captain for Carter in a Republican pricinct and Carter took it.

There was CERTAINLY as much 'hoopa' over Clinton as O'bama. In fact, the last time I felt this was with Jimmy Carter.

Carter NEVER got us in a a $450 billion war over pride and ego.

He was and remains an American hero.

[WCGreen]

43. I just don't remember it that way....

If you do, so be it...

[C_U_L8R]

24. Bob Dobbs is gonna smack you for that

whatever happened to slack?

[patrick t. cakes]

29. "give me slack or kill me"

:P

[C_U_L8R]

30. : - ))))))))))))))

[candice]

25. Carter had much more executive experience as a governor.

[bagimin]

26. Wrong!

Jimmy(bless his heart) couldn't inspire Roslyn.

[Iceburg]

27. Wrong. Jimmy Carter didn't enter the contest with a scandal on his tail /nt

[LSK]

31. Obama is???

:shrug:

[Neshanic]

38. Well that's not actually true. Ford had pardoned Nixon, and EVERYONE

was furious over the pardon. Nixon was out, and Ford was installed. He was the result of a scandal, and he pardoned Nixon, which was a scandal in itself. Then "Carter the Pious"

I remember coming home from school and seeing the New York Daily News, and nobody was happy about it.

Now back to Obama as Carter. He will be a Carter, and that's not a good thing, of course that's if we beat McCain, which is going to be difficult.

[skooooo]

28. I'd rather him be our FDR

[goodhue]

36. another Bob avatar

I hadn't seen any until today, but yours is the second.

[TexasObserver]

37. No, Obama is nothing like Jimmy Carter.

Except the good heart.

This is the kind of argument one finds at MEME'S 'R US.

[Neshanic]

39. Carter had "lusting in his heart". Oh and a bunny fear.

[TexasObserver]

41. Carter had honesty and integrity, two qualities he still has.

Two things no one ever accused Bill or Hillary of having.

[burythehatchet]

42. Thank goodness.

[jillan]

44. Excellent at foreign relations? Obama???

He hasn't even visited our troops; let alone visit Europe - his subcomittee on the SFRC.

[JCMach1]

45. No, this is something else...

[readmoreoften]

47. Isn't Jimmy Carter our Jimmy Carter? /nt

[MagickMuffin]

53. Seriously, why are people here dissing a Democrat PRESIDENT?.?.?

This is what is becoming of OUR PARTY?.?.?

:wtf:

Jimmy Carter was the first president to install Solar Panels on the White House. Reagan had them removed.

Also: His administration created two new cabinet-level departments: the Department of Energy and the Department of Education. He established a national energy policy, removed price controls from domestic petroleum production, but was unable to make the USA less reliant on foreign oil sources. In foreign affairs, Carter pursued the Camp David Accords, the Panama Canal Treaties and the second round of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT). Carter advocated a policy that held other countries to the highest moral standard possible, a standard by which, he believed, Americans would want themselves to be judged.

After leaving office: Carter founded an institute to promote global health, democracy and human rights. He has traveled extensively to monitor international elections, conduct peace negotiations and establish relief efforts.

Now, had Jimmy won his reelection perhaps he would have been able to accomplish these goals before leaving office.

Obviously people here are NOT educated on our President.

[Moh96]

55. Thank you for that

hopefully people learned something today

[thevoiceofreason]

56. Jimmy Carter was not inspiring. Smart, but not inspiring