Hillary Clintons Wisconson Ad.... Speaks Truth Obama is afraid to debate!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzGbj_ERlJ0

[tekisui]

1. I notice, though, that she is not planning on going to Wisconsin to

talk to the voters. She hits Obama on the declined debate, wanting to give the voters a chance to here the positions, yet won't tell them herself?

[DUyellow]

4. is this true?

[tekisui]

6. She's in Texas.

She is putting her time in there. Apparently, she is only putting money in attack ads in Wisconsin.

[shaniqua6392]

39. I believe she will be there on Saturday.

She is doing one fund raising event. Obama is going to do one fund raiser and a rally the same day, if I remember right.

[tekisui]

56. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

69. They are both speaking at Wisconsin Founders Day in Milwaukee

[ElsewheresDaughter]

58. yes it certainly is.

[Benhurst]

7. To be fair, Obama is ahead now, and he does better reading

the speeches Teddy Sorenson is writing for him than he does debating. If the situation were reversed, Hillary would choose the option which suited her best. As for the best interests of the American people in their attempt to evaluate the candidates, when has that ever mattered?

[tekisui]

16. People's Interests get lost in Politics.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. exactly!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

59. never mind.....

[MagsDem]

40. not true - she will be there to campaign

[jackson_dem]

61. She will reportedly be there for four straight days

[rodeodance]

68. Know your facts before you SPOUT off--2-3 weeks ago she planned on speaking

in Milwaukee.

She will be starting Saturday-

[tekisui]

81. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

82. you are welcome

[undeterred]

92. She's sending her daughter and husband to do the talking

and just showing up for the pricey Democratic party fundraiser on Saturday night. You have to drop a wad of cash to see her in person or watch the commercials.

[robbedvoter]

2. It's the GOP way. W was also resisting debating - both times. Media creations

do not want to be caught off guard.

[Tellurian]

11. Well, maybe Obama will be comfortable if Axelrod arranges an advace copy

of the QUESTIONS, giving Obama ample time to rehearse the answers. Isn't that why he was much stronger in the last debate? I thought so... his responses were scripted.

[indimuse]

30. still won't matter..remember his "Drivers License Question" ahh..ahuh..

He had 2 weeks was it...he stuttered and failed miserably...BUT YET NO MSM coverage about his NON_answer! They beat Hilary up for weeks about is..and still do!

[democrattotheend]

50. Or maybe they should just plant the questioners and script the questions.

Wasn't Obama the one doing that in Iowa? ;)

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. she says, from Texas.

[ClintonTyree]

18. Oh, I get it....

people who do not live in Wisconsin have no business speaking about Obama's lack of nerve in debating there.

How many posts have you made about states in which you do not live in again? :shrug:

That's right, Obamatons don't live in the real world. They can't be bothered with "issues" and debates. They live in a world full of "hope", where everything is pretty and fluffy.

No more debates for Obama. He'll just give more "hope" speeches and "hope" that people don't come to their senses and take a look behind his empty rhetoric before November.

[THUNDER HANDS]

28. methinks you missed me point

me point was, Clinton is claiming Obama doesn't want to debate in front of the people of Wisconsin - and she says that after skipping Wisconsin to campaign in Texas the other night.

[shaniqua6392]

41. She is not skipping Wisconsin.

I wish you people would look at the campaign schedules once in a while instead of spreading rumors.

[elixir]

47. Where do I get to the campaign schedules? at her site?

[shaniqua6392]

52. I just did a Google search of Clinton campaign stops Wisconsin.

Then I was just perusing some of the articles. I also saw that in a Feb. 9th poll she was ahead of Obama by 9 points. I found that interesting, since I have heard several people say she is going to lose Wisconsin.

[democrattotheend]

99. They did not debate in VA, and I am not offended

The debates are all televised nationally anyway, so it really doesn't matter where they are held.

[Unsane]

5. It's not as good as the "Hillary 4 U & me" ad,

which can be seen here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no&feature=related

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. Great Ad !

[Unsane]

19. agreed

[mckeown1128]

42. and you guys call Obama support a cult?!?

That video looked like 3 minute church revival. The audience was dancing around while singing her praises. "Jesus is fo.... ahem... Hillary is for you and me"

[samdogmom]

46. I thought it was a joke at first, but...it looks like I'm wrong. It's serious! WOW!

I think it pales next to the will.i.am video, but that's just my opinion.

[Dawgs]

9. Wasn't she planning on skipping WI all together?

Until her campaign realized that they couldn't lose by double digits AGAIN.

[Independent-Voter]

14. HRC is going to get her ass handed to her, again, in Wisconsin

It'll be yet another 15%+ asskicking - bank on it. HRC has an outside chance of hanging onto Ohio, but that's it for the rest of the races. Texas will be close, but I think Obama ultimately wins by 5% or so.

[Dawgs]

23. I agree with your analysis. I think he keeps it close in Texas AND Ohio.

Last night I talked to my brother in Columbus. He was at an Obama organizing party.

He told me that there were as many as 2000 people looking to sign up for the campaign.

For a comparison, earlier this year he went to SEE John Edwards in the same building. He said that last nights attendance was three times as big as the attendance for what he saw for Edwards.

[rodeodance]

70. TV pundits and obamacampers bought into the lie and spread it.

[AtomicKitten]

10. With 19th debate, you get egg roll. (nt)

[rox63]

12. What part of the last 18 (and upcoming 2) debates did you miss?

They've debated plenty. They have limited time to actually reach out to the voters in person. That's what both candidates need to concentrate on for the next few weeks.

[Tellurian]

21. Obama has a chance to prove Hillary a Liar! He calls her a Liar on the Trail, why not on tv?

c'mon...I want to see the fur and feathers fly!

http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/hillaryclinton_wideweb__470x308,02.jpg

[rodeodance]

73. nice photo you have

[Tellurian]

95. You are welcome to use the pics as your own, rodeodance..

there is also an edited down version..

[ClintonTyree]

22. That's when there were still a full slate of candidates....

the REAL debates should be now, one on one, so people can make up their minds on rational thought rather than emotional, feel-good platitudes. Don't you think? :shrug:

[rox63]

31. I guess that's why Hillary wanted to back out of the upcoming NBC debate

But she has no problem with appearing on a Fox News debate. She knows where her campaign donations are coming from.

[thoughtcrime1984]

53. To say that Obama hasn't been talking about the issues is

typically disingenuous. Keep grasping at those straws, as he has been talking issues as much as anyone else. And, from what I can tell, Hil isn't coming here until the Democratic dinner in Milwaukee Saturday night. But, I suppose she has campaigned here more than Obama, right? Can't wait for March 4th, so we can put this thing to bed.

[totodeinhere]

13. Oh come on.

Quit faking outrage. You know the game as well as I do. If you're behind, you call for more debates. If you are ahead, you resist more debates.

So this should tell us who is ahead right now. And you had better believe that if Clinton were ahead and Obama were behind then it would be just the opposite. It would be Clinton who would be resisting more debates.

[MadHound]

15. Meanwhile Hillary is dithering about debating Obama in Ohio

Sorry, but after twenty debates already, having a multitude more of them is foolish. Besides, Obama is making a strategic move here. Hillary is running short of cash and needs all the free exposure that she can get, hence the call for endless debates. Why should Obama help her out in her time of need? Rather force her to spend the precious cash on ads and bleed her dry.

The call for debates is a non-issue, and most intelligent people see it for what it is.

[Vinca]

17. If Hillary was filling up arenas the way Obama is, she wouldn't

be begging him to debate. She figures, rightly, if Obama is on the screen with her, people will tune in to watch. Now she needs to acknowledge they're tuning in to see Obama.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. yeah he fills arenas the same way Benny Hinn does

[Vinca]

36. What a mean, cheap shot at enthusiastic voters. nt

[rodeodance]

84. I was there but am no supporter.

[Viking12]

20. But Clinton's ads are only seen by YouTube surfers....

I haven't seen any. Obama's ad is on many times per day.

Because her poorly run campaign doesn't have the resources to air ads, Clinton is trying to make hay about a debate so she can get free face time on TV -- not because she's really interested in debating.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. that's not what my Cheesehead family and friends have said...so are you talking out your ass ?

[Viking12]

32. Umm, I sure do. Nice try though.

[thoughtcrime1984]

60. I have seen about a dozen Obama ads, zero Clinton ads

Haven't watched much TV today, though. I'm near the heart of Wisconsin.

[rodeodance]

74. Clinton's health care ads are running in the Green bay and Lacrosse areas that I know of

[rodeodance]

75. you missed her ads then on health care.--running in WI

[jmg257]

24. So he should campaign the way SHE says now? Cause that has worked SOO well for her! Just silly.

[Mass]

25. How many debates does Hillary need before she stops her claim. They have had many, many debates

and they have planned 2 more, if Hillary does not try to escape them as she did with the MSNBC one.

[indimuse]

34. only 2...with JUST the 2 of them...

lets the candidate truly elaborate on issues...why so afraid? as far as msnbc...she has agreed...what i wanna know...if obama really intends to cross the isle and deal with our enemies as he claims often...then why wont he go on faux news channle...if he is SO strong and absolute on his policies and PAST...then why not give it to them...so ALL the RW watchers will know him better. Why is so scared to take on little ole fox..? They would love the opportunity to ask questions and allow obama to state his positions...Hillary IS NOT AFRAID! She just laughs at their antics...But she shows up for the FIGHT!

[Mass]

35. Obama has already accepted TWO, so why is she complaining?

[Hippo_Tron]

26. With the current format the debates aren't actual debates

They are just candidates spewing their scripted statements and rebuttals.

None of the moderators are going to ask those tough questions and she damn well knows it.

I'll be 100% behind Hillary's call for Obama to debate her in Wisconsin when she also proposes that the candidates get to ask each other questions.

[elocs]

33. It's as old as the hills--the candidate behind or who is slipping

is desperate to debate their opponent. When that happens you can smell frustration. There is nothing unique about the situation.

[elixir]

38. Excellent, call him to the mat. He needs to debate.

[MadBadger]

44. And she needs to get her ass to Wisconsin now, because he has earned great press being there...

over the past couple of days.

[democrattotheend]

49. Has the press been hitting Obama for not debating there?

And how are people reacting to the ad?

[rodeodance]

71. I know lots who think Obama is dissing them here in Wisconsin.

[Beausoir]

83. He is afraid of debating her. Plain and simple. You'd think he would welcome the chance to

prove he has any substance.

His refusal speaks volumes.

But..we already knew that about him.

[Avalux]

43. Stupid ad. There have been 18 debates. Two more scheduled in Ohio and Texas.

If Hillary thinks that ad is gonna sway voters in Wisconsin, she's been misled. He's on the ground in the neighborhoods - THAT's what counts. Where's Hillary???? She doesn't think Wisconsin is important enough to spend time there.

[samdogmom]

45. I predict this ad will backfire on Hillary.

It justs makes me mad and more resolved to vote for Barack. If she somehow pulls off the nomination, I'll have trouble forgiving her for this.

[democrattotheend]

48. How are people in Wisconsin reacting to it?

I am worried about the effects of this ad...how are people in WI responding? Are people criticizing Obama for not debating there?

[samdogmom]

51. I'm sorry--I don't have any "inside" knowledge on this topic.

But, it's just my guess knowing Wisconsin voters the way I do--it's not going to go over well. Good luck, Hillary! You're looking very desperate right now and that's not pretty!

[doyourealize1]

54. I think Obama fans are afraid of debates

HRC gets an uptick in the polls after every debate. That shows that she's articulate on the issues, no? Politicians need to know how to think on their feet, and it seems as if Obama can't do it as well as she can. She knows the issues inside and out.

18 debates or not, I'm sure the voters in WI wouldn't mind one. People tend to pay more attention to debates if they're located in their own states. It allows people to compare the candidates side by side. While it may not sway voters outside of the state much, I'm sure a debate would help voters in their own state decide. Are Obama voters so self-serving that they'd rather have him avoid debates b/c he doesn't do well in them, despite the fact that debates reach a wide audience of people who don't have the time to go to rallies all the time?

[rodeodance]

76. you bet they are--He was invited by a major Univ in WI-and he said go to hell, i am too buzy

[Omega3]

87. ppl were excited about the prospects of a debate at Marquette U and

then the rug was pulled out from under them, it seemed the media was reporting like it was a done deal, some are understandably upset....

[bunnies]

55. I cant believe so many people are suckered by this blatent political stunt.

Its sad really.

[doyourealize1]

57. WI voters deserve to hear the issues

If Obama really wanted to reach out to a wide audience and have a substantive message, then he'd agree. Nothing more to it than that.

[rodeodance]

77. ha ha--The Lady called Obama to task and so so many Obamacampers are having fits. tsk tsk

[KoKo]

62. So many of us feel More Debates rather than Less are Important...

Now that we are down to two...shouldn't Debates be the MOST IMPORTANT? :shrug:

[MadBadger]

63. WisconsIn

spell it right.

[Alexander]

64. He's so afraid, he agreed to 20 debates with her.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The only person "afraid" of anything is Hillary Clinton, who is afraid of losing.

[zulchzulu]

65. Hillary is out of cash and needs free publicity so she is begging for a debate

Anyone who has seen and watched politics knows that when a political candidate wants to debate (in this case after 18 debates), that they are out of money, running out of time and out for trying to get free publicity.

Hillary, you had your chance. You debated Obama 18 times. You can't say he is scared to debate you. He's not going to give you free press. Get lost.

[MadBadger]

67. Looks like Hillary's making a play for Wisconsin after all

From Saturday to Tuesday, she'll be in Eau Claire, Green Bay, Wasau, Milwaukee, and Yes, Madison. Though I think she is going to speak at monona and not the KC, but we'll see.

[rodeodance]

78. hey sweetie. glad you getting into 101 politics. You have repeated that meme several times. Got

anything new??

[zulchzulu]

86. Who you callin' sweetie?

I'm just letting both you and anyone else know that it's an old stale tact to want to have debates when you're out of cash. Hillary has debated Obama plenty of times and she's obviously hoping to go for the Stupid Vote.

[rodeodance]

89. hey honey--you have the textbook fine. I resent you calling Wis. voters stupid. Shame on you!

[zulchzulu]

97. Um... I'm a Wisconsin vote...toots... n/t

[x-g.o.p.er]

66. Yeah, they've only debated 1,472 times...

I can see why he'd be terrified.

[RBInMaine]

72. Bullshit ! They have already debated 17 or 18 times !!

Hillary is desperate and losing, and those who are desperate and losing ALWAYS go negative. They have had 17 or 18 debates already. This is a bullshit Hillary campaign desperate and negative gimick. How fake ! GO OBAMA !!!!

[rodeodance]

79. tehe--How many times you going to repeat the word 'desperate???

[ElsewheresDaughter]

88. WRONG..they have only debated one on one ONCE!

[rodeodance]

90. the cricket went away.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

94. ahhh good riddance.....and I about to hit the pillow myself here in a few

[TalkAgain]

80. Very VERY lame!

[rodeodance]

85. yeah--pretty lame of Obama to tick of people he wants votes from

[undeterred]

91. Its a stupid ad. Those two have had 18 debates.

We don't need any more. Afraid, no. Pointless and having better things to do, yes.

[DS1]

93. age old nothing of a tactic

it's bullshit.

[LordJFT]

96. because 20 debates is clearly not enough :sarcasm:

[Annces]

98. Lots more Obama ads in Wisconsin

I have seen many ads for Obama, and only an occasional one for Hillary in Wisconsin. She needs to be more visible.

[Thrill]

100. Spending money on a stupid ad like that

wah wah he's scared to debate me.

The Obama comeback ad hit back hard on that.