Obama supporters cant name one accomplishment?

[niceypoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0">Hannity to pro-Obama focus group: Name one accomplishment

Being PWNED by the two watt bulb Hannity....OMG!! MAN this has to be embarassing if your an Obama supporter.

Looks like 'substance' will be a major campaign issue if Obama gets the nod from Democrats.

[AX10]

1. You will be attacked for posting from Hannity..

but those same Obambots post often from Novak, Drudge, and Dick(less) Morris.

[niceypoo]

5. I really dont care, the video is what it is

Either they can answer the question or they cant

[Jamastiene]

37. If it's good for the geese, it's good for the ganders too.

No matter how low they stoop, we'll still be miles above.

[mod mom]

39. Rightfully so especially since the pukes want Hillary to be the Dem candidate!

[MethuenProgressive]

2. There's a reason for that.

...and it's not the supporters fault.

[WatchWhatISay]

3. Not attacking anybody but remember what the Pubes said last couple of elections

Character counts.

[AngryAmish]

4. They can use apostrophes correctly

cheap shot, I know

[niceypoo]

6. Your lack of writing skill is duly noted

[Occam Bandage]

31. "If your an Obama supporter"

[griffi94]

7. bullshit

obama named a post office...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4584103

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. if Obama is the nom get ready for 4 more WARS..."100 no a 1,000 years in Iraq"

[niceypoo]

9. McCain is running as a Bush clone

On a platform of 'stay in Iraq forever.'

[ccpup]

10. Exit Polls from recent contests indicated those who voted

for Barack did so because he can "bring change" while those who voted for Hillary cited her "experience", the "economy" and "health care".

Name me ONE election where the politician hasn't promised to Change The Tone in Washington and then failed spectacularly to deliver. It's promised every Election Cycle and people fall for it hook, line and sinker every damn time. If that's all Barack is selling, those voting need to take a closer look at HOW he will change it and WHAT he will DO to change it and how, in the past, has he shown leadership on this issue. It'll take more than a big smile and a charming personality to deal with the entrenched egos in DC.

Changing the Tone in Washington is a bit like herding a huge horde of over-caffeinated cats into a tiny box made of fragile cobwebs, or something. Ain't gonna happen.

[AX10]

12. Should Obama edge himself into the Whitehouse.

which is doable, there is a good chance that he will lose the congress in 2010 when he gets nothing done. Clinton tried this "let's all get along" crap back in 92'-94' and it was a proven failure.
Play hardball with your opponents, use the bully-pulpit of the Presidency to get legislation passed into law.

[niceypoo]

14. I believe thats why he does not like to debate Hillary

Particularly on foreign policy, his answers are quite amateurish

[dansolo]

54. You are promoting Hillary by citing Bill's failures??

[niceypoo]

13. Obama supporters are caught up in emotions from his slogans and delivery

What they don't consider is his slogans and speeches are written by slick, professional, paid speech writers. There is no divine inspiration.

[ccpup]

16. my black friends were shocked to learn that his top speechwriter

is a very talented, very young white guy. Although it shouldn't matter, they were a little peeved with that info.

[griffi94]

15. obama so far

hasn't had to deal with a hostile media...the rw has been too busy trying to knock off hillary
because they really hate her....as soon as she's knocked out...they'll turn their guns on obama....and he doesn't have enough of a record to refute whatever they put out....for those of ya'll who think obama doesn't have any skeletons...remember the media isn't above just making shit up...remember how gore invented the internet....and kerry was worse than a draft dodger.....obamas has been great at rallys and does really well with fawning supporters......but when the primary is over it's game time....and the repubs don't play nice and they don't take prisoners

[stillcool]

38. I can't think of a single one...

of Hillary's accomplishments. As far as change goes, and the demand to know how that is going to be effected, I think one only has to look at his campaign to get an understanding of how that might happen. By the same token, Hillary's campaigning style does not exude confidence in her ability to do much of anything. There is plenty of information available to anyone who wants to see the policies and ideas that Obama has for the future. There is plenty of information available to anyone who wants to view his accomplishments. If anyone has any questions and is truly interested in the answers they can easily find them.
http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3a2984
http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=3931
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5088&en=8385d348acbab84e&ex=1355806800&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[ccpup]

41. that's really sad

Not a single accomplishment? It's not difficult to find a fairly lengthy list, actually. And with your obvious copy-and-paste talent, I trust you'll find what you need. But here's something to start you off with:

Clinton co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.

President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation (from 1978 through the end of 1981) and for much of that time she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so. During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million, and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.

Chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992, where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system, fighting a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place.

And a bit of stuff from the White House years:

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.

She also promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare as well as successfully seeking to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.

She also worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, she helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice and, in 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.

[stillcool]

50. oh bummer...

you don't like to read eh? I'm sure that voters polled would just rattle off your long list of chair achievements by Senator Clinton. Just as likely as you are to read any of the information in the links I provided. Funny, isn't it?

[elixir]

11. McCain's already riding that horse and he's going to ride it right into November.

[cottonseed]

57. Hillary is riding that horse now, and she's riding it off a cliff.

nt

[niceypoo]

17. I note, there is a complete lack of replies by Obama supporters in this thread

Generally they descend upon threads critical of their guy like rabid piranhas.

[BigDDem]

22. They're busy trying to think of one accomplishment

[burythehatchet]

48. I know some people are just tired of smelling the steaming turds that

you and your ilk drop on this board everyday.

[RoadRage]

18. Right.. and i'm sure no media figure could find a DUMB Clinton supporter if they tried, eh?

Give me a break.. both candidates have people who are very well educated about their platforms, and both have candidates who don't know a dang thing.

Here is an example who knows his policies quite well.. but people show what they want to show: http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/video-interviewer-picks-the-wrong-obama-supporter-to-try-to-railroad/

[Zodiak]

24. I have to agree

Hannity would never try to skew what is seen on TV, right?

I do not buy media frames, and I will not buy one created by Sean Hannity. He is not objective, and everyone on this board knows it.

[Arkansas Granny]

19. I posed a question yesterday in a thread asking what cause

Obama was championing and was told that his cause was making democrats powerful again. Hope and change are all well and good and all the candidates have used some variation on that theme, but it takes substance to get things done.

[rodeodance]

21. mantras are feel-good fuzzies.

[rodeodance]

20. Its the SWOON effect--I am in love!

[rox63]

23. A bit about his record, from Obama's web site

http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php

In the Illinois State Senate, this meant working with both Democrats and Republicans to help working families get ahead by creating programs like the state Earned Income Tax Credit, which in three years provided over $100 million in tax cuts to families across the state. He also pushed through an expansion of early childhood education, and after a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

In the U.S. Senate, he has focused on tackling the challenges of a globalized, 21st century world with fresh thinking and a politics that no longer settles for the lowest common denominator. His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent. He has also been the lead voice in championing ethics reform that would root out Jack Abramoff-style corruption in Congress.

As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan. Recognizing the terrorist threat posed by weapons of mass destruction, he traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world. And knowing the threat we face to our economy and our security from America's addiction to oil, he's working to bring auto companies, unions, farmers, businesses and politicians of both parties together to promote the greater use of alternative fuels and higher fuel standards in our cars.

[MyNameGoesHere]

26. Yes he has a record. So what?

Most of it is generic and just like all the others. WHAT has he done specifically to "CHANGE" from what most other politicians have done or are doing? WHAT earth shattering legislation, policy, or accomplishment that is so "DIFFERENT" than 100's of others? There is NOTHING in his record that indicates the level of his "CHANGEOMANIA" that is being regurgitated by the whole universe.

[TheDoorbellRang]

35. Here you go

There's a reason we like him here in Illinois

Judge Him by His Laws

By Charles Peters
Friday, January 4, 2008; Page A21

People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.

Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.



more...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html

[MyNameGoesHere]

53. ????????????

He has done NOTHING MORE OR LESS than any politician. WHAT THE FUCK IS HE GOING TO DO TO CHANGE AMERICA? Here YOU go.

[TheDoorbellRang]

58. perhaps you didn't click on the link

more from same article:

Consider a bill into which Obama clearly put his heart and soul. The problem he wanted to address was that too many confessions, rather than being voluntary, were coerced -- by beating the daylights out of the accused.

Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.

This seemed likely to stop the beatings, but the bill itself aroused immediate opposition. There were Republicans who were automatically tough on crime and Democrats who feared being thought soft on crime. There were death penalty abolitionists, some of whom worried that Obama's bill, by preventing the execution of innocents, would deprive them of their best argument. Vigorous opposition came from the police, too many of whom had become accustomed to using muscle to "solve" crimes. And the incoming governor, Rod Blagojevich, announced that he was against it.

<snip>

Obama proved persuasive enough that the bill passed both houses of the legislature, the Senate by an incredible 35 to 0. Then he talked Blagojevich into signing the bill, making Illinois the first state to require such videotaping.

Obama didn't stop there. He played a major role in passing many other bills, including the state's first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor and the first ethics and campaign finance law in 25 years (a law a Post story said made Illinois "one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure"). Obama's commitment to ethics continued in the U.S. Senate, where he co-authored the new lobbying reform law that, among its hard-to-sell provisions, requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them.

Taken together, these accomplishments demonstrate that Obama has what Dillard, the Republican state senator, calls a "unique" ability "to deal with extremely complex issues, to reach across the aisle and to deal with diverse people." In other words, Obama's campaign claim that he can persuade us to rise above what divides us is not just rhetoric.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html

Obama has been and continues to be a strong advocate for transparency in government. This is important to me. That and the fact that he seems unusually adept at convincing opponents that what he proposes is to everyone's advantage. So -- not an average politician, in my opinion.

[MyNameGoesHere]

59. I did not have to click on the link

i read the WAPO everyday. Once again i need to ask what is he going to do to change America? This is what he did in Il. And i am sorry but these are still minor accomplishments, though the fluff piece sure makes it sound like he is a one man army against the world. :crazy:

[BigDDem]

25. one accomplishment?

uh, .... ummmmm, well,.....oh, he's a "rockstar!"

[1776Forever]

27. Try these on for Obama - And read Hillary and Bill's "accomplishments"!

When you look at what Obmama has said and stood for - Not going to War - Pushing for help for Homeless Veterans - Standing up to Condi Rice and the Bush Administration on Blackwater - Introducing and moving through a Bill that stops Lobbyists in their deceitful practices. For this and his stand on Health Care, working together with all parties, pushing for help with global poverty, and making us a power for good in the World once again I stand tall for Obama!

http://obama.senate.gov/

Yes, he is a brilliant speaker and that is a wonderful attribute to the younger members of our country. If you ask me I would rather be hearing him giving me the information on our country then listening to Hillary and her secretiveness that I feel came out in the early part of her run for the nomination and then when she saw it didn't work she changed.

Hillary and Bill have more baggage too! They have the following:

Since Hillary has said she has 35 years of accomplishments and ties this to Bill's tail - let's take a look at what they have accomplished:

NAFTA, CAFTA, Communications Bill of 1996 Act, and outsourcing money to India -
Her vote against the people and for the Corporations in the Bankruptcy Bill -
Voting for the Iraq War to invade - not to help protect the troops after they are all ready there -
And not least: Her vote of the so-called "Lieberman-Kyl" resolution on Iran.




:kick:

[Iceburg]

28. Don't blame the supporters -- Obama has them on a diet of empty rhetoric/nt

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

40. Well there is 6 more years of elected experience than Hillary

And what, exactly, has Hillary accomplished..

Other than voting for the Iraq war, the Iran resolution, and that shameful bankruptcy bill?

Oh yea she voted for Latin American free trade agreements..

[Mezzo]

29. *I* can name Obama accomplishments....

and they far surpass anything that asshead Hannity ever pulled.

How obtuse. (of Faux News)

[Mezzo]

32. Harvard's an accomplishment, right?

editor of the Harvard Law Review is an accomplishment.

How about the United States Freakin' Senate? looks like a(nother) accomplishment, AND it's one that asshead has never been able to pull off himself, so...

[BigDDem]

56. editor of the Harvard Law Review?

Well, I'm sold, that's exactly what we need!

:rofl:

[Occam Bandage]

30. Hannity brings clueless liberals on his show? Shocking, if you haven't seen his show, er, ever.

[qanda]

33. I'm sitting here trying to think if I could name one accomplishment from Hillary

I honestly can't say that I could.

[Alter Ego]

42. I can!

She got universal health c--

Oh, right.

At least she didn't vote for the Iraq W--

What? She did?

Well, at least she didn't vote to give telecom companies immunity and to classify the Iranian National Guard as a terrorist gr--

Geez.

[qanda]

51. LOL

Good one!

[niceypoo]

52. Hillary invented the universal healthcare issue, for one...

But Ol' lo-watt bulb Hannity didnt ask Hillary supporters about Hillary, so that is irrelevent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

[killbotfactory]

55. Hillary didn't invent the universal healthcare issue.

That's ridiculous.

[Mezzo]

34. *AND* Yes they damn well did...

The snooze channel decided they weren't 'accomplishy' enough.

Community Organizer, is also, an accomplishment.

[Indy Lurker]

36. The election is about the future

Not about the Past.

This contest is about looking to a new future.

Voters have seen the past(Hillary)and are choosing a new direction.

The fact that voters prefer an untested newcomer to a White House veteran, speaks more to Hillary's failings than to

Obama's abilities.

[mckeown1128]

43. Hannity does that "name an accomplishment" crap...

ALL of the time on his radio show to Clinton supporters. It doesn't matter what is said...he attacks them anyway. Stop posting right wing trash on this site.

[dionysus]

44. are you perhaps bitter that edwards was an abject failure, and taking it out on someone else?

[Political Heretic]

45. The fact that people are so obsessed with hating a candidate that they use FOX News as a source

... my gods what the hell have we become.

Yes, imagine my shock that Hannity has a group of morons on his show to make all things democratic look bad. I mean, imagine! No, not FOX News! Not those bastions of truth and accuracy.

I remember a time at DU where people cared more about the truth than they did about some "game" where they and "their person" have to "win." I remember when DU used to mock free republic and these kinds of tactics used by their members rather than gleefully engage in them.

Here's a more typical Obama supporter:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kica8hmSdAM

I have posted over and over and over and over again in my own words, my clear specific reasons for supporting Obama - with substance about his policy proposals, accomplishments and issues. And yet it doesn't matter. Because you don't care. You ignore it and information like it from other supporters, and continue to post the same old crap: he has no accomplishments, he has no substance, don't confuse me with the facts because I like my talking point. That's you.

Frankly, I'm getting really sick of people who camp at GD: P and make it their goal to twist, distort or outright lie to smear the "other guy." Either way -- against Clinton or Obama. It's just ridiculous. And I'm fed up.

[burythehatchet]

49. They have a purpose. They are trolls. They are here to cause disruption.

If we're lucky they will find gainful emploment...or not.

[IronLionZion]

46. His accomplishments have been listed here many times

But the meme will live on. I view it as a good thing. It's a chance to once again list his accomplishments. It's awesome to be an Obama supporter.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4578207

[NoBorders]

47. OMG, please, Hannity pulls this shit on Dems all the time

It's one of his regular shitty segments. He could easily do this to Clinton supporters.

[boppers]

60. Hannity lies on screen, DU'er repeats lies...

Even though *anybody* can look at that video themselves, and hear:
1. Community Organizer.
2. Working with the Elderly
3. Government Reform
4. The "Oratator" Guy
5. Congressional Reform

Hannity then declares such things as not specific enough, when they weren't given enough *time* in their response to actually be specific.