Bill Clinton: Caucus goers don't need a president

[knowledgeispwr]

hat-tip to dailykos:

Of his wife's recent travails, he said, "the caucuses aren't good for her. They disproportionately favor upper-income voters who, who, don't really need a president but feel like they need a change."

source: ABC's political blog

That's pretty insulting towards caucus goers, no matter their income level or who they supported. It seems to me to be a particular slap to Clinton supporters in the caucuses.

The example of Iowa, shows that 81% of the caucus goers have incomes of less than $100K

Edited for minor wording correction.

[bicentennial_baby]

1. Wtf?

:banghead:

[Kurovski]

13. Well said.

:-)

I could take President Clinton's comment as a particularly personal insult, but just I'll let this one slide down the slime-shoot.

Goddamit.

[intaglio]

17. WTF has happened to William Jefferson Clinton

He used to be so adroit politically. Thats sort of comment you would expect from a RW teenager

[Danger Mouse]

2. Bill Clinton = pure lack of class.

Hillary should muzzle him.

[Skidmore]

3. Bill Clinton is an ass.

A huge sorry ass. How dare he?

[TwilightGardener]

4. WTF?? I caucused, I'M not "upper-income". And I DO need a President--President Obama.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

5. wow, thanks actually, I need these kind of quotes to share with people

why does he let himself say this kind of stuff?!

What was he thinking?

[knowledgeispwr]

6. Sometimes it makes me wonder what Bill is thinking.

Some of the things he has said appear to make little to no sense at all politically.

[Kahuna]

40. I'm beginning to really wonder about him. Something is not right. nt

[LisaM]

7. Well, I think $100K a year is a lot of money.

But it's true that in general, caucuses do favor people who don't have to work nights and weekends, for example. The Vegas workers were given a concession that many caucus goers don't have. In Washington State, you can get a proxy for several reasons, but having to work isn't one of them.

We had a lot of students at our caucus this time. It was held on a Saturday and favored students to a great degree. The one I went to in 1992 in the evening had very different demographics.

Primaries are far more inclusive. Despite a huge surge in attendance at our caucus from previous years, it still only represented no more than 6% of our precinct. The one time we chose by primary, it was more like 40%.

[Bicoastal]

11. Sure, but I think the primary victories in Virginia, Maryland, and DC...

...showed him winning the vote of EVERYONE, not just the upper crust.

[knowledgeispwr]

16. I think $100K is a lot of money for most families as well,

but that doesn't change the fact that Bill dismissed caucus voters, including those that supported Hillary, with his statements. You shouldn't dismiss your own supporters.

Bill Clinton himself won tons of caucuses in 1992.

[Rose Siding]

44. My daughter and I missed 2 hours of work to caucus for Obama

(our family income for 3 is under 50k)

[Bicoastal]

8. Bill, PLEASE. Take a vacation. Let me remember you as a guy I actually once

liked and respected. Not as the smarmy spinmeister you've become.

[slick8790]

12. Agreed. n/t

[THUNDER HANDS]

9. it's becomming readily apparent he wants Obama to win

he's not this politically tone deaf. He never has been before.

[knowledgeispwr]

19. It almost seems that way, doesn't it?

It's like Bill is getting stuck into a terrible cycle:

1. Open mouth
2. Insert foot.
3. Return to Step 1.

I have a really hard time believing that Clinton is this politically tone-deaf.
Could that be that things have changed and he hasn't?

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. i think he see's himself in Obama

maybe just a better self. And he see's his worse self in his wife.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

10. recommended. Clintons are running Big States only campaign n/t

[tridim]

14. From hero to zero in 7 years

What an asshole. Go fishing with Poppy and leave us alone Bill.

[TheDonkey]

15. wtf, Bill it's time you climbed back under the rock you came out from under

what is this man talking about!?

[jefferson_dem]

18. Fuck you, Big Doggie!

You have become a disgrace to our Party! These caucus-goers - proud citizens - invested great time and energy participating in democracy...and now you shit on them like this for the sole reason of trying to leverage your wife into the Oval Office.

You, sir, have become a sorry, little man.

[Levgreee]

20. wow

[Thrill]

21. He sounds like an idiot everytime he opens his mouth

I don't know what happened to him

[Raven]

23. I can't help but wonder if Bill, deep in his heart of hearts, wants

only one Clinton to have been POTUS. Maybe he can't stand the idea of sharing the title with his wife. I have run out of explanations for his destructive behavior.

[easy_b94]

24. WOW....

Billary CANNOT GET BACK INTO THE WHITEHOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yael]

25. That is a political tin ear if I ever heard one.

Its sad, really.

[knowledgeispwr]

26. Can you believe that Bill would say that *on purpose*?

I still can't wrap my head around it. Why do you think he said it? Do you really think it was a tin ear?

[Yael]

27. I have no clue. It was a mindbogglingly stupid thing to say -- but he is savvier than that

[mimitabby]

28. again, geez, you guys

Sounds like he's trying to figure out why she's not doing better. Why does everyone get so excited about something the guy said casually???


Obama Obama Obama Obama

[knowledgeispwr]

31. How is saying "caucus goers don't need a president"

trying to figure out why Hillary isn't doing better?

It just sounds like a bad and dismissive excuse.

People are getting "excited" because it's the most recent ex-POTUS that's talking, one who has been a big part of Hillary's campaign. Also, Bill won many caucuses himself in 1992.

[tridim]

35. Maybe Poppy suggested he say it.

Since they're BFF and all.

[my3boyz]

29. He is such an @sshole! I can't believe I was so crazy about that man!

[K Gardner]

30. Would Bill like Obama to take Hillary's win in the NM CAUCUS off their hands? Must be

hard for him to stomach.....

[JVS]

32. What an idiot.

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. Blow me Bill n/t

[NMMatt]

34. He's lost all credibility with me and half the Democratic Party at this point...

Congradulations Bill and Hillary.

But really, the more he makes statements like that, the better it is for Obama's chances (think of the South Carolina backlash).

[Kahuna]

41. He ran off at the mouth in Main too. Whining and making excuses about

how everything he says is miscontrued. Poor Bill.. :eyes:

That may have accounted for Hillary's poor showing.

[dansolo]

36. Why is Bill using a RW meme?

Bill is essentially calling Obama supporters "latte-liberals", just not in those words.

[HeraldSquare212]

37. I can't tell you how much this pisses me off.

Hillary said the same thing earlier in the primaries. It turns out only their supporters need a President - what a nice coincidence, eh? I don't know why they think citizens of the US don't think beyond pocket book issues or don't deserve a President who will serve them on other than pocket book issues.

Between this, and Hillary saying that if her war vote was a deal-breaker there were other people we could vote for, all I hear from the Clinton camp is a big, Fuck off.

[mckeown1128]

38. It is almost as if he wants Obama to win.

It is like he is purposfully palying into Obama's talking points about how the Clinton's don't want change but want they same divisive "do anything to win" politics.

[Kahuna]

39. Heh? What you talkin' 'bout Big Dawg????

:wtf:

[sniffa]

42. Come on William, you know better than that

and besides, didn't you just sorta declare you were staying on the sidelines?

[grantcart]

43. ruh roh

I wonder if anyone has told Bill that Texas is a caucus state
yup that's right all those thinking Texas is going to be a great big easy win 1/3 of Texas delegates will be chosen from caucses

[workinclasszero]

45. Mr NAFTA puts foot in mouth again /nt

[Az_lefty]

46. What an arrogant asshole. Fuck Bill Clinton. n/t

[MaineDem]

47. As a caucus goer, this really pisses me off

I cannot tell you how irate this makes me!

[D23MIURG23]

48. And America doesn't really need dynastic monarchy. n/t