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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:46 PM Original message |
Obama On LGBT Issues |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Are you a GLBT person, or have GLBT issues been a high priority |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:56 PM Original message |
That is really none of your business. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. And I bet some of your best friends are, too. |
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sloppyjoe25s (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
173. Stupidest comment in history of DU |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #173 |
183. Actually it was the most intelligent thing on here in a long time and NEEDED to be said - REPEATEDLY |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #173 |
192. That's a mighty bold statement coming from someone who's been here for two weeks |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #192 |
208. I've been her for a lot longer than that. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. I was responding to sloppyjoe25s. n/t |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #212 |
218. Sorry, taking from all angles... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #208 |
314. Who did you used to be? |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #173 |
235. er... your history on DU |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #235 |
240. Just because you don't register... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #240 |
326. too bad I wasn't responding to your post(Pay attention-self centered) |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #173 |
327. You became an authority on DU history in just 18 days? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm trying to be generous in understand why you don't GET IT. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I do get it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. "I don't understand why you are up in arms about it." No, you don't GET IT, by your |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. So... It's the word marriage? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I understand now - you pretend to want to know the problem, and then when |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Got a link? I gave you a link. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Again, if you had paid the least bit of attention to GLBT issues you'd know |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. I know more than you think. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
90. You've made plain you don't care about our lives - just scoring a political point. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. You have just made plain that you don't believe in logic |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. To the contrary: other GLBT posters know what I was referencing. So do others |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:33 PM Original message |
If i didn't care, I wouldn't be on here talking about it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
109. What you care about is defending 0bama. Not understanding our issues. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Wow, what spin. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #115 |
175. The wind-burn on your scalp... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #175 |
222. His point was that you should not be |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #222 |
243. No, you don't want to go there with me. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #243 |
262. Jung didn't live in the PC world... now did he? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #262 |
274. Oh, I see. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #274 |
283. You are carl jung? wow. that is a miracle. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #283 |
289. You dismiss my life experience in deference to your outsider opinion? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #289 |
295. The only one being dismissive of anything here is you. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #295 |
296. Oh, well, thank you then, for setting me straight, so to speak, on my life experience. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #296 |
300. I never tried to speak on your life experience |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #300 |
305. And we come full circle. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #305 |
307. I already commented this.... somewhere down there... somewhere |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. I really can't believe you had the NERVE to try that. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. How is that out of context? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. No, he didn't. He called EVERYONE sinners |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. he perpetuates a label of sinner. For what other group would he use such a justification? None. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #133 |
141. He was asked a question. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #141 |
177. he gave a lousy answer and based it on gays being sinners. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #141 |
195. Being gay is not a sin |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #195 |
265. I never said it is a sin. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. MondoJoe hasn't misrepresented anything |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Please... you are reaching now. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. You're right. The straight people have spoken and now I know what to believe |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. Amazing... truly amazing. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
188. "I guess I'm just a horrible homophobe making shit up." |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #188 |
202. You are a piece of work. Really. |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #126 |
150. Read the quote: |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. There is a choice here... |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #156 |
162. I didn't say sexual orientation is a choice. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Love the sinner but not the sin, right? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #165 |
167. I never said that. And obviously, you don't. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #167 |
171. I heard people explain Bill Richardson's "being gay is a choice" statement |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #171 |
179. I didn't say being gay is a choice. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #116 |
187. HIS words - HIS context. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #187 |
217. I can't believe you are so closed minded that you can only |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. When you are justified as a "sinner" rather than as a person entitled to equal rights, it's an |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #220 |
225. That's not what he did. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #225 |
228. It certainly is. We are justified based on everyone sinning. That's not what justifies |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #228 |
232. You got a candidate running that is for same sex marriage? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #232 |
234. Actually, Clinton is not opposed to same sex marriage though she feels civil unions |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #234 |
242. Wow... amazing. Truly amazing. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:15 PM Original message |
Go look it up. Her position is that marriage is a state issue, and that civil unions are |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
258. I know more than you think. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #258 |
259. You've proven yourself ignorant of GLBT issues, uncaring, and given to use of RW homohobic |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #259 |
276. I just sent you a PM.... I suggest you read it before you make |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #276 |
281. I read it. It changes nothing. Thanks. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #281 |
285. Then I have nothing more to say to you. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #228 |
236. And so everything he has ever dont for LGBT... None of it matters |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #236 |
239. What he has done matters, in the whole. The good and the bad. And on the whole, |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. And so one incident, one thing completely erases years and year and years |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #241 |
245. Not one incident, but a mindset, which I've addressed earlier, is enough to cost |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #245 |
247. You have no idea how "there" I am. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. Sur I do - you've proven it, by diminishing and ignoring the response of the majority of GLBT dems. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #250 |
252. I haven't disrespected anyone on here. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #252 |
255. Keep telling yourself that. No wonder you don't get it. NT |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #255 |
260. I can't help it if the turth hurts. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #260 |
261. Yeah, it's all part of the "glbt lifestyle". |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. Don't go there. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #263 |
264. Tell me more about my "GLBT lifestyle" please. I can't wait. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #264 |
266. Thanks. It's been real Mondo... It's been a real experience. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
185. look it up yourself - we're tired of doing YOUR work for you... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #185 |
226. I provided links. It is the least you could do. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
184. Ummm - NO - it's NOT a "fact" - and his record is quite the CONTARY... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #184 |
227. Going to contradict me? Show me some proof. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
196. Question: Is Hillary much better? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #196 |
200. You are absolutely right... but those are facts... |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #200 |
277. Busted! |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #277 |
282. Facts have a liberal bias |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #282 |
290. Yeah, OK, whatever you say. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #290 |
293. Don't really care if you do. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #293 |
298. Obviously you don't care. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #298 |
301. Have a nice night. |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. Doh! |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. They can attack all they want. I am still right. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
95. Putting McClurkin on stage was wrong. It's as simple as that. - n/t |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:32 PM Original message |
And? So you ignore all the good Obama has done for the LGBT community? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
105. All the good? What "all the good" is that? Perpetuating lies that hurt gay kids? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Obama has been fighting for LGBT rights his whole career. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. He's sure been TALKING about it. But he's glad to pander to anti gay bigots. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Probably never was. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #117 |
181. You keep repeating that crap. But you ignore some facts: a number of GLBT DUers |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #181 |
206. People believe what they want to believe... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. You're still making shit up. You can review my thousands of pre-McClurkin posts |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #207 |
209. I haven't made anything up. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #209 |
216. You certainly are, with your accusations of false outrage, and "probably never was" in reference |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #216 |
229. I didn't make up a darned thing. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Now that's just false. You made up how I and others feel. That's your own made up trash. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #231 |
246. Made up? NO. |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
154. I highly , highly doubt it |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Facts---pffff. You can prove ANYTHING with facts. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. It will fall on deaf ears |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Its simple really... |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Nope, I listened |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Original message |
Read this |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
168. You couldn't be more right |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
186. Not deaf ears, but thinking brains. If the OP is so at odds with actual GLBT people, |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #186 |
211. You have to be kidding me right? Thanks... I needed someone to |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #211 |
219. Fact is, you are at odds with the opinion of most GLBT people about GLBT issues. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #219 |
251. No, I don't' think I am. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #251 |
253. But I know you are at odds with the majority of GLBT people. You are free to disagree. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #253 |
267. Not looking to |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #267 |
269. It's possible that invisible pink unicorns are in my back yard. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #269 |
278. Well, at least you admit it's possible... I sent you a PM... please read it. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Had this been a race issue it would be all over MSM |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. Having beliefs based on faith is reason enough to be passed on as president. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. I see so many posts on here saying how HRC never apologized for her IWR vote |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. What more do you want Obama to do? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. He could apologize. He could stop describing us as "sinners" as the |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. You are just trying to find something to pin on him. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. To the contrary. I had no affiliation prior to McClurkin. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Obama.... |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
128. Support Equal Rights for All Americans |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #128 |
164. He does support equal rights for ALL AMERICANS |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #164 |
318. No - HE DOESN'T |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. how is it different? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. How is what different? |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. See #6 |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
321. I mentioned human rights -- all human rights are equal |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. K&R |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. "God delivered me from homosexuality" = horrible thing to say. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's one of his kinder remarks. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. But that isn't what he said at the concert... which is why |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:59 PM Original message |
Also, the Kirbyjon endorsement, the Newsom snub, the "sinners" comment. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. Got links? I gave links. You got any? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. If you actually paid any attention to LGBT issuesyou'd know about these already. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
78. What point... You are making up stuff to slam Obama? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
102. Made up? People who care about LGBT issues know about the Newsom snub, abbout the "sinners" |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. Got a Link? a video? show me... Still waiting. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
189. Almost 800 posts on LIES since the Jan 30 - nice... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #189 |
215. I haven't posted a single lie on here. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Marginalizing the GLBT community and its supporters... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. My OP didn't marginalize anything. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
131. I disagree. You did indeed marginalze the GLBT community and its supporters. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #131 |
201. Obama did address these things. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #201 |
313. Movin' movin' movin', keep those goal-posts movin'.... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
294. Well, if that is what he believes |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Why do you not understand how offensive it is to be told that you're "sick"? |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. But why is it only offensive when Obama appears with such a person? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
55. It is not only offensive when Obama appears with such a person |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. But then Clinton gets a pass for doing it in other than an election year? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
148. This. Is. Not. About. Clinton. |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Is it fair to attribute to the OP those sentiments? nt. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I'm just trying to get people to understand this. |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Well, that's an understandable and productive goal. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. The OP's statement "I didn't hear him (McClurkin) say horrible things"... |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Thanks. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. Yes |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
121. The problem? I heard what he said. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #121 |
155. With friends like you, Sen. Obama doesn't need enemies. - n/t |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #121 |
174. The "LGBT lifestyle...one he has already lived?" |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #174 |
194. At first I thought she was just clueless, |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #194 |
303. You are reading too much into. |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #174 |
213. The OP has a phobia about something that is the same as themselves? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #213 |
291. the OP does not have ANY homophobia |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #121 |
182. "lgbt lifestyle"? What do you mean by that? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #182 |
279. I don't mean anything by that. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #121 |
315. "Lifestyle" is such a RW term |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
138. DU is fulling raging homophobes |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. I'm not a homophobe, and I haven't seen any comments from anyone |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #144 |
160. Actually, comments from you lead me to believe that |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #144 |
172. Yes, you are |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #144 |
190. yes - you are - no matter how much you insist you're not...YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #190 |
205. You don't know the first thing about me. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #205 |
214. We know you use homophobic terms, like "lifestyle". |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #214 |
221. "Lifestyle" is "homophobic"? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. If you want to play dictionary games, go ahead. But to pretend you don't know what homophobia means |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #223 |
233. Words have meaning for a reason... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #233 |
237. And "homophobia" has meaning. Look it up. |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #237 |
244. The actual, logical meaning of the word "homophobia" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #244 |
248. No, that's not the ACTUAL definition. Funny how you like the dictionary when it suits you, |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #248 |
256. Really? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #256 |
257. You're confused. Regardless of what you think homophobia SHOULD mean, it has an actual |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #244 |
249. P.S. If you'd like to continue this alleged discussion |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #233 |
284. Terms like "PC speech police brigade"... |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #205 |
238. It doesn't matter. Just look around. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #144 |
316. Actually, you are |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. But Obama NEVER said any of that. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. But he gave a bigot a platform to say it. If Clinton gave a KKK member a platform |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
89. So, where is your proof that he knew what he was going to say. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. He was warned by the HRC. And if he didn't know, he had no business giving |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. He allowed someone who believes that to MC his concert |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
124. I didn't hear him say that at the concert. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Here's the problem short and sweet |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. But you don't attack Clinton for appearing with an anti-gay minister, why just Obama? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Because Clinton |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. She attended a fundraiser for him. That's not supporting a hate-filled agenda? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Wasn't her fundraiser |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I get it now... You aren't upset with Obama over this... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Incorrect. You're pretending two different things are the same. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. And that is Obama supporters problem with this issue and how they have handled it. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
127. It is fake outrage. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #127 |
320. He gavce the stage to anti gay bigot to raise money for his campaign. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
140. Did it occur to you |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
142. Did it occur to you |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
323. Many people disagreeing with you aren't Clinton supporters |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. But it raised money for the minister. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Raise money for who? |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Nope - I'm not referring to that event. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Which minister are you saying Clinton raised money for? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. I guess you'll have to show me what you are talking about. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
86. I thought this was pretty well known. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
114. Okay |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Actually, that is a good point on '68 vs. '08 |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. hint |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. Hillary appeared with an anti-gay minister during this campaign to shore up her religious voter sup? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
129. It's okay, that was Hillary... she's cool |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Clinton didn't give an anti-gay minister a stage and a microphone |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. When I hear him say that he "profoundly disagrees" with this... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. Question. Are you black? n/t |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
94. Um.... No. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. No matter. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
130. I think I might have been in a past life. That count? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #100 |
137. It is very offensive... but I guess I don't see how you are relating the two. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. I'm relating the two |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. I agree with you... but |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #149 |
158. "Actions speak louder than words" |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. Yes, They Do... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. McClurkin episode was political expediency |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. So how many male gays are opposed to Obama? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. The HRC national survey, and exit polls, shows about a 2 to 1 gay split in favor of Clinton. |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. Not surprising |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
81. You're confused, and making assumptions about the polling. NT |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I find your accusation |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. You are easily insulted -nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I love it when people who don't care about GLBT issues tell GLBT people |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. You completely misrepresented my post |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Not at all. Yuo alleged "false outrage". Furthermore, you are factually wrong: the HRC |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
80. Like women in all subsets of all demographics |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. When it comes to |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I never said that |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Post #35 |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
106. I do |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #106 |
119. Hillary's position has evolved since then |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. Apparently you have a lot of outrage to go around -nt |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #125 |
139. Is this the political climate I can look forward to |
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miceelf (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #119 |
224. Hillary has evolved? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #224 |
304. I looked for that... came up empty |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #224 |
312. Here |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. At least one! |
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Not Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. I am a gay male...and I am still waiting for an apology. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
97. Your ignorance of LGBT demographics is showing |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
110. Explain |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
317. "mainly a femanist thing among Lesbians?" "false outrage?" |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. LMAO |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. Good luck with that. |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. The truth is, the GLBT members who bash Obama on his "Gay Rights Stance" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. You're full of shit. Several of us have explained that pre-McClurkin we could |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
82. Deleted message |
mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. I don't know what you DO care about, but I know you don't care about our issues or our lives. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. And maybe you might be a little more rational. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
113. I haven't mentioned civil unions at all, so why would I mention Edwards, who |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #113 |
204. I mentioned civil unions... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #204 |
210. What this is about is LGBT people deciding who is the better bet for us. And it's pretty sick to |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #210 |
299. LIke Me... Funny |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #299 |
310. Do you REALLY want to remind me of your tale of a lifetime of bad choices and trying to convince |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
136. You have 100 gay friends? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
324. Ha -- not true at all -- most AREN'T HRC supporters |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
76. I've wasted enough time trying to inform ignorant straight people about The McClurkin Fiasco |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
77. You are a breath of fresh air. But don't think logic will matter with some. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
120. You can say this until the cows come home and give birth to aliens |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #120 |
132. Ah, there's my precious little shadow from the right. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #132 |
157. Wait just one goddamned second |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. You know, I thought about you, ruggerson when I posted this. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
83. The LGBT community is not united on who to support for president |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
103. "there are no homosexuals in Iran"...527's will will have a field day. |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
108. This GLBT'er is not fooled |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #108 |
170. BRAVO! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #108 |
191. Deleted message |
IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #191 |
197. That kind of language is not acceptable |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
325. Hillary Clinton wasn't president -- but you know that |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
134. Deleted message |
IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #134 |
145. That is uncalled for. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #134 |
151. I didn't feel personally attacked. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #151 |
161. Well, most GLBT people such as myself felt that way |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. They barely addressed that issue in the concert. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #166 |
176. I saw it a tad differently, (at least, what I've seen so far). |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #166 |
319. So if Obama had David Duke, and other Aryan Nation folks do a concert |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
169. Did you just fucking DEFEND McClurkin's hateful, bigoted statements against GLBT people? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #169 |
178. NO, I did not. Maybe you need to reread it, because you are |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Since so many LGBT people prefer Clinton to Obama, I think YOU are missing something. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #180 |
198. Maybe on here... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #198 |
203. More than just DU. National HRC polls, as well as Dem primary exit polling show about a 2 to 1 |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #203 |
271. A lot of polls have various groups 2-1 for hillary |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #271 |
272. Not Exit Polls. You sure do hate reality. No wonder you think truth hurts. NT |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #272 |
287. Goodnite Mondo. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
193. Sounds like a crack-in good ex-gay candidate I can get behind/nt |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #193 |
199. I am afraid to even ask where you are going with that one |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
230. Should we speak to David Duke too? After all, we need to "talk" to our enemies. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #230 |
270. If you think you can change his mind... sure |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #270 |
273. Right, I can just see you undertaking such a conversion attempt. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #273 |
280. LOL... Doesn't mean you don't try |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
254. Oh, I can do that? OK, my religion says INSERT OFFENSIVE COMMENT HERE |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #254 |
268. I never said it made it right. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
275. Obama on LGBT issues, if you're up for a little reading. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
286. Deleted message |
IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #286 |
288. Did I say I agree with him? No, I didn't. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #288 |
292. Oh? Now you are lecturing me on my use of language... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #292 |
297. People like me? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #297 |
302. To JUST disagree with something is to also acknowledge that its a legitimate point of view... |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #302 |
306. I didn't say it was a legit point of view. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #306 |
308. You just can't call McClurkin a homophobe, can you? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #308 |
309. OH, is that it? McClurkin is a comlete homophobe |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
311. Anyone remember Bill Clinton's ads on right wing Christian radio in 1996 bragging about DOMA? |
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322. "His beliefs, based on his faith" |
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