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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 PM
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So John Edwards is thinking of endorsing Hillary Clinton
That's what David Bender was saying on Rachel Maddow's show while I was driving home from work. I almost had a car accident.

He should go into acting, he's really, really good at it.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 PM
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1. I always thought he'd endorse Clinton.
They have much more in common than he does with Obama.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:42 PM
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2. Me, too.
Call me crazy.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:57 PM
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35. Yeah, that whole support of lobbyists running the government thing
Are you serious!?

She is the 180 degree opposite of him.

"replacing corporate Republicans with corporate Democrats"

"this is personal, not political"

"you can't nice these people to death"


Have you been watching the same campaign as I have?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 PM
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3. John Edwards is not endorsing anyone right now.
So you can just hold the chatter for awhile. I believe because the platform is much closer to Obama than Clinton, I think John Edwards will hold off his endorsement until the threshold has been reached for Obama.

Hawkeye-X
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:58 PM
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36. From your lips
He needs to Al Gore this and stay above the fray.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 PM
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4. He is thinking . Is that a sin now?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:45 PM
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7. It is to the Obama cult
Edwards joins Bill Clinton, Paul Krugman, Joe Wilson, Larry Johnson, and many other progressives as being sacrificed at the church of St. Obama.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:54 PM
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17. Scary, isn't it?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:47 PM
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10. It seems wildly inconsistent that he should endorse
the candidate who differs from him the most and who he criticized the most. Who is the real John Edwards?
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:54 PM
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16. Not sure how she differs from him more than Obama does.eom
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:06 PM
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23. Who differs from him the most?
Let's compare the issues. Obamites NEVER do that.

Everyone crticizes the front runner. Notice no one attacked Gravel?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:49 PM
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14. We tend to eat our own.
I'm a John Edwards supporter, period.

Anyone who chose to be a supporter with insufficient evidence deserves whatever happens and ought to think about the "STFU" thing.

Actual Edwards supporters will realize that he will do what he thinks is right...

JUST AS HE WOULD HAVE IF HE WERE ELECTED PRESIDENT.



Edwards isn't perfect. Edwards isn't God. Some here would disagree.

Neither is Hillary. Some here would disagree.

Neither is Obama. Some here would disagree.

Edwards will do what he believes is right for the country and anyone who doesn't like it is free...since America IS the land of the free and the home of the brave...to get fucking BENT.

:patriot:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:09 PM
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45. Yes. Downright unAmerican.
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ExtraGriz Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:44 PM
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5. i heard it too...
something regarding hillary fighting to get edwards endorsement, and obama fighting for him not to endorse hillary....these arent the exact words.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:44 PM
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6. I am crestfallen thinking of this ...
What do John Edwards and HRC have in common except a healthcare plan she stole from him? He admitted his mistake in voting for the war, while she digs in her heels. She accepts money from special interests and perpetuates the politics of slash-and-burn, 51% governing ... while he was trying to move the country beyond that. I just feel like crying when I think of him capitulating to her game-playing.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:48 PM
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30. A tear or two here as well
But I am not shocked at anything any more
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:55 PM
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34. You are correct on all accounts
But remember also that people can be bought, or cajoled, or get reminded of favors owed, etc.

If it happens, let your knowledge of the issues guide you, not the opinions of those that may be bought and sold.

Edwards believes in poverty issues...an offer of Sec. of Housing and Urban Development may get him to think he can have a larger impact from within a Clinton administration than outside of an Obama administration. Or a return to the Senate as VP.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:45 PM
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8. I've heard Obama declined to assure him of a job in his administration. Anyone know if it's true?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:48 PM
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11. David Bender said that Hillary had promised him something
and that Obama was supposed to meet with him, but they were unable to get together for some reason. Edwards is expected to make an announcement soon. I would expect that either of them would, endorsement or not.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:57 PM
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18. Where exactly did you hear this little tidbit of info?
So...if Edwards endorses Clinton it will be because Obama wouldn't give him a job?

What a crock.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:49 PM
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31. Thats a "somesay" kind of, thing-a-ma-bob. nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:29 PM
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40. Shhhhhh-
Don't confuse them with facts.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:46 PM
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9. I don't know why people have such a hard time with that possibility.
Their platforms are not that much different, even though their rhetoric is.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:49 PM
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12. Could we start a thread on this when there is actually proof?
I would like JE to endorse HRC as much as other supporters would but we seem to be chasing threads every day and nobody has any proof of anything.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:59 PM
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22. But why wait when we can start trashing him now?
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 07:59 PM by QC
It's awful crowded under the Obama bus, so we need to get an early start.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:51 PM
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32. I know that it shouldn't have, but that made me chuckle.
"awful crowded under the Obama bus"

As for me, I hope that he doesn't endorse either one as he will be trashed by some in either camp.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:49 PM
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13. Dupe. Not sure how it duped but it did.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:00 PM by avrdream
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:53 PM
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15. I posted what I heard on Air America tonight.
I've made maybe two other posts this week. I can't believe how snarky you people are. Its like walking into an unsupervised 7th grade detention.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:34 PM
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43. Are you kidding?
YOU started with a snark, and here it is:
"He should go into acting, he's really, really good at it."

What an asshat like thing to say. Keep in mind, I'm not calling you an asshat, however, posting something like this is a very asshat kind of a thing to do. And then when you complain about how "Snarky" people are, then that makes you look even more like an asshat. Now, keep in mind, at no time here did I directly call you an asshat.

That would be wrong.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:01 PM
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48. Yeah, like anyone actually reads past the top line of the post.
:sarcasm:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 AM
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49. I get it. Are you slow?
That's ok, not everyone can read a whole post in one sitting. Actually, I must be slow, because I have no idea what you meant in your reply.

Don't be surprised that people don't like you if you act like a smart ass. Have a nice day.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:57 PM
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19. I am not at all surprised.........
that the populist fighting corporation and the status quo for change candidate would endorse the faux populist in bed with corporation and is the status quo for more of the same candidate.

That's why I have never supported either.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:57 PM
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20. I could only see that happening if Clinton offered him something sizable, like atty gen nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:57 PM
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21. Maybe you should sue him. For the near accident, that is.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:08 PM
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24. Edwards is probably also thinking of endorsing Obama
He is THINKING - he hasn't made any statements so far, so why don't you just wait until he actually makes an endorsement.

:eyes:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:34 PM
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42. I hope he doesn't endorse at all.....stay on the sidelines like Gore,
JE's going to need the help from the next President to continue pushing economic justice in this country!

Anyhow, also, if he does endorse, it's going to piss off half of DU :evilgrin:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:10 PM
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25. Hillary may need a southern democrat as a Veep,
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:37 PM
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26. who cares?
he`s been out of the loop to long to make a difference
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Moh96 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:39 PM
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27. the fact that he did not endorse anyone yet gives me the feeling that he is leaning towards Clinton
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:41 PM
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28. I think everyone would do well to assume nothing about Edwards.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:54 PM
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33. Thank You! Assumptions Are Only That! So Many Of Us DON'T WANT
him to endorse EITHER ONE! They don't deserve him! He can keep on working as a Democrat as he did after 2004, he's still young enough to run again!

Please John Edwards....DON'T DO IT! But, that's only MY wish, he has to think about HIS future too! He's chosen politics as what he wants to do and he needs to remain viable! But still.... DON'T DO IT! I guess I'll try to understand, but not sure I can!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:42 PM
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29. Yes, The Clintons promise "the world" but only gave the people NAFTA, Welfare Reform.
and the first of two devastating Bankruptcy Amendments. :thumbsdown: That doesn't seem to mesh with John Edwards "heartfelt" compassion for those who live in "The Other America." :(
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:01 PM
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37. How many threads are we going to have of his "thinking" of endorsing her?
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 09:04 PM by calipendence
Sheesh! Mainstream media spin machine working in high gear!

Wes Clark must be getting pissed if he thinks Edwards' is angling for a VP slot! Perhaps that is the objective. To free him up to be used by Obama? I guess if we can speculate on what Edwards is going to say, I can speculate on what Clark might be saying! Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:16 PM
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38. I have an enormous amount of respect for John Edwards, let's
give him the benefit of the doubt, for the time being.

(And hope that it all works out, OK, in the end.)
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Mark Twain Girl Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:24 PM
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39. If I were inclined to toss JE under the bus, it would be for endorsing Obama
If I were inclined in that direction, I would find consider it a far worse compromise to endorse a candidate who is selling a reach-out to Republicans. I'm not in a good place for reaching out, not until a great many messes are cleaned up and answered for.

Edwards and Clinton, OTOH, have a nearly identical health care plan, and to some people, health care is one of the biggest (or indeed, the biggest) issues right now.

Happily, I am not the slightest inclined to throw Edwards under the bus, no matter who he endorses or doesn't. It's his choice, and he'll make it for his reasons. I've said before, I would expect nothing less than a tough negotiation on his part, and as many policy concessions as he could make. He makes his choice, and I make mine, and my respect for him won't be diminished. In fact, if he can push either of them into any concessions, my respect for him will only increase. I have a feeling we won't know his story from this primary until years down the road, and he lit too much of a fire underneath me for me to give up on him now.

I've avoided these speculation threads, mostly because I don't care what he decides, and I don't enjoy seeing the under-the-bus body count tick upwards. I respect Edwards supporters who have gone to Obama, and those who have gone to Hillary, and those who have done neither. We are a diverse group, and it's fitting that John Edwards should be torn, when his community was such a varied group. I respect the man, and that will not change. That is all.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:07 PM
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44. I understand what you are saying......
I was/am a Clarkie. When General Clark endorsed Hillary, I told him on his blog that I would be supporting Joe Biden. He was very understanding. Others threw their support to Obama, Edwards, Dodd, Kuch, and Richardson. And of course a great many joined the General in his support of Hillary Clinton.

What I didn't understand, and can't forgive, is a small minority of "so-called" Clarkies who started trashing General Clark, impugning his integrity, because of the choice he made. :grr:

Because of this, I can understand why John Edwards's supporters don't want him to endorse anyone. I am certainly relieved that Joe Biden didn't endorse anyone.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:30 PM
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41. Thinking isn't doing
Are we really into debating and analyzing what a person is reportedly thinking?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:19 PM
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46. I heard that a deal had been cut
I work in Washington and some of my coworkers know people on the campaigns...rumor is that some sort of a deal between Edwards and Clinton had been cut, but Edwards is hesitant to jump on what looks like a sinking ship. So if Clinton wins Wisconsin or Hawaii, I would not be surprised to see him endorse her. But from what I heard, nothing has been finalized, and he might be meeting with Obama now. I don't know what, if anything he was offered, but I did hear that there was some sort of a deal.

Edwards has the right to endorse whomever he wants, but all of this jockeying is making me question his sincerity. If he's negotiating incorporation of poverty into their stump speeches or a plank in the party platform, that's one thing, but if he's trying to jockey for a cabinet post or trying to pick the one he thinks is more likely to win and be able to reward him for it, that seems kind of contrary to what he stood for when he was a candidate.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:26 PM
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47. If he's going to endorse for god's sake endorse....
and if not just say so and be done with it. WTF?
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