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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:56 PM
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Lannie Davis - Superdelegate & Clinton supporter, "Dont change the rules in the middle of the game"
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:57 PM by stevenleser
He was just now on CNN talking about Superdelegates, and I agree. However, I also apply this to Michigan and Florida.

If you want to do something about Florida and Michigan, both candidates and the DNC and the state parties should all get together and agree. The delegates should not be seated as is because that was not the rules when this primary season began.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:57 PM
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1. Lanny davis is a scumbag.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:06 PM
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2. Lanny is one of the most irritating Shillbots.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 09:06 PM by jefferson_dem
Was he talking about "changing the rules" such that the supers overturn the will of the popular electorate? If that's the case, I agree with Irritating Lanny.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:15 PM
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9. There's no rule that says that the superdelegates have to vote for
either the peson who won the most votes or the person who won the most pledged delegates.

Anyone who advocates that they must is trying to change the rules for political convenience.

They just have to vote their conscience.

If you want to change the rules, great do it for 2012.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:52 PM
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11. Nobody is arguing that there's a formal rule in place that dictates how the supers should vote.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 09:54 PM by jefferson_dem
Each "super" should vote his or her conscience. But that calculation best include overriding principles which are far more important than these two candidates in question.

Bottom line: If these inside-the-beltway establishment-types overturn the judgment of rank-in-file Democratic voters and caucusers...we are no longer the democratic Party. Period.

***

Superdelegates, Back Off

By TAD DEVINE
Published: February 10, 2008

...

The superdelegates were never intended to be part of the dash from Iowa to Super Tuesday and beyond. They should resist the impulse and pressure to decide the nomination before the voters have had their say.

The party’s leaders and elected officials need to stop pledging themselves to either Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama, the two remarkable candidates who are locked in an intense battle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

If the superdelegates determine the party’s nominee before primary and caucus voters have rendered a clear verdict, Democrats risk losing the trust that we are building with voters today. The perception that the votes of ordinary people don’t count as much as those of the political insiders, who get to pick the nominee in some mythical back room, could hurt our party for decades to come.

...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/opinion/10devine.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:10 PM
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3. The rules stink! starting with open primaries.
I am tired of others deciding the Dem candidate for us in this primary.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:12 PM
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4. As I see it, it's "rule of law" vs. justice
The big picture is that, if left as is, Michigan and Florida voters are being denied a voice in who should be the Democratic nominee. It's not enough to say everyone knew the rules, everyone signed on to the rules, etc. The voters of both these states don't deserved to be deprived of their votes.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:14 PM
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6. I gave a remedy. You saw that, right?
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:15 PM
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8. Obama took his name of the ballot in Michigan
Weren't those voters "deprived" of the chance to vote for him? Your only "big picture" is that you want Hillary to be the nominee. I didn't hear her (or you) complaining until after the fact when it was obvious she was going to need those delegates to have a chance.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:36 PM
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12. It would be, except that it only became important to Hillary when started to lose...
... so it isnt even that.
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Torgo Johnson Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:12 PM
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5. Leapin' Lanny Davis is a hypocrite of the worst kind
He sure did not mind changing the rules in the middle of the game when his client Joe Lieberman decided to ignore the will of the Democratic voters of Connecticut and run as an "independent democrat". I would have loved to see the look on his face when he found out that his buddy Joe was supporting John Mccain instead of Hillary.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:16 PM
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10. Yeah, Lanny Davis
Has been around shilling for the Clintons for years and years. I will never forget his support
of Lieberman. He's one of the entitled who has been around for far too long.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:15 PM
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7. If Hillary took a dump on Lanny's plate, he'd say "oh boy, ice cream" and eat it
And he'd try to get you to take a bite.

He's the biggest Shill on TV, and that's saying a lot.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:47 PM
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13. Lanny still has his lips firmly attached to Leberman's butt
He is a DLC twit.
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