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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 AM Original message |
Lets forget the first Obama gay misstep...this one is interesting. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. old news |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yes, we really need to keep current on Obama wanting his cake and eating it too. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. What's not old news is the harm done to glbt people - especially kids - by this shit. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
78. there is no harm being done to GLBT people |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. New news to me. |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. who cares? |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. The GLBT community at DU is well aware of the lack of caring on this issue |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. It's not a lack of caring |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. See Post #2: "Who cares". |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. This is what happens when some of you |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "Who cares". |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. A few of you fools that harp on this over and over are only making it worse |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. What exacty am I making worse???? |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. By you Bear, Cboy and a few others who try to bully people over this |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. What am I driving them away from? |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Caring about our issues. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Those are people who don't care about our isues to begin with. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. There are some you can alienate by your behavior |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. So it goes. If people are alienated by my rejecting a bigot, I will have to live with it. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. That's not what I meant and you know it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I rather thought it WAS what you meant. I'm done with straght people telling me what to think about |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. You shouldn't let them tell you what to think |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
77. Input from a random person... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. You know. Don't be uppity GLBT folk! |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Keep those silly fags down. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. See above: "who cares?" |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
70. A child's brain was blown out in his middle school classroom today because he was gay. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. You're actually proud to not care about gay people? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Progressives do |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
68. Your ideology is a vapid hole of nothingness. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. Is this kind of like Ann Coulter's endorsement of Hillary... |
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southern_dem (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. Don't know much about this |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. “I have been in contact with the Obama campaign team,” |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. "Caldwell has not, and will not, be asked to do anything for the campaign" |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. But he'd been working with Obama previously and extensively |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Washington Times??? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Keep hate alive! |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I apologize for hating the white supremacists at the Washington Times. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. This is very old, and we have seen that he has NOT campaigned with him. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. What about the refusal to be photographed with Newsom? |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Newsom's gay? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. No, but he was apparently toxic to Obama |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Supposedly he is... |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I didnt realize Newsom was gay. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Nice try |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Is Gavin Newsome Gay? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Obama refusing to be photographed with Newsom occurred in 2004 |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Hillary's husband... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
69. He most certainly did, he was part of the South Carolina tour. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. We discussed this one too |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I've seen it all today... |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Seems to me like some of my gay brothers and sisters are throwing Obama |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. If Clinton gave a platform to a kkk member I'd treat her the same way. |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Once while in DC I saw Clinton and Byrd having lunch.. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I don't understand the question. |
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DGoldman1212 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Used to be... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. So you saw Clinton with someone who has repudiated racism. And I'm supposed |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I"ve heard that argument before. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. So don't buy it. Go ahead and ignore the real damage done by assholes like McClurkin. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Who said I ignore damage done by McClurkin? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. You've established that it's not a priority for you. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I did no such thing. I said it's not top priority. It's not No 1. # 1 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Or #2, or #3, or #4, or #5. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Fine, just stop the bullying. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I rather consider the people who don't care about GLBT people telling us who we should support |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Both sides can be bullies. It's not good. |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
35. Christians are homophobic... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. No, some Christians are homophobic. Do you really want to partner with the worst? |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. The majority of them are... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
73. I dispute that the majority of Christians are homophobic |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. 1. Using one bigot to spew bigotry to other bigots is not "reaching out" |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
60. This is the EXACT same thing as the Ann Coulter Endorsement |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Other than Obama working with the endorser? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Except they never worked with each other. The endorser merely said he was going to |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. See Post #24. |
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Goat or Panic (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
71. I'm still stuck on |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
72. If Caldwell had endorsed and announced he was campaigning for Hillary... |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
74. Logic of holding a candidate responsible for EVERYONE who endorses them is just ridiculous! nt |
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