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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:28 AM
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Rasmussen: Clinton Extends Lead in Texas (54-38)
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 11:38 AM by jsamuel
Hillary Clinton 54%

Barack Obama 38%

Not Sure 9%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/texas/texas_democratic_presidential_primary

Conducted February 14th
Survey of 577 Likely Democratic Primary Voters - That means they include independents and republicans since it is an open primary.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:29 AM
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1. Has Rasmussen ever polled Texas Before?
If not, how did she extend her lead?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:38 AM
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7. Is the poster lying? I'd like to know. nt
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:40 AM
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10. I am comparing it to other polls that have been released recently.
This is the first one to show her +16 in a while.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:42 AM
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13. So then I would be right to say Obama has taking the lead, because ARG has him up, right?
Even though they suck.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:46 AM
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16. All the polls suck. I only posted this one because I thought the other one gave an incomplete view.
This one by itself is also incomplete. They are all just guessing anyway.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 PM
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29. self delete
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 PM by tandem5
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:30 AM
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2. poll was taken during time HRC has been campaigning hard in TX
I'll wait and see what it looks like after Obama has spent some time there.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:11 AM
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34. Early voting starts this Tuesday so he'd better get his @ss in gear.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:32 AM
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3. k and r
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:33 AM
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4. This sounds more reasonable.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:36 AM
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5. One of the problems with this poll and all others is that they are asking
likely Democratic voters and Texas is an open primary. Republicans and Independents can show up at the polling place and ask for a democrat ballot.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:38 AM
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8. they include independents and republicans
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:48 AM
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17. that wasn't in the link. Its not a question of including but what percent?
What is the modeling they used? It takes a really large poll to accurately factor that in and in most state by state polls the selection is too small.

More intersting was that Rasmussen markets show an even 50/50 split on the betting money on who was going to win.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:56 AM
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25. And that is precisely what is wrong with the system. nt
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:05 AM
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33. The "likely" might be a clue also
The 18 to 24 set which has been coming out in bigger numbers and might not even get polled won't be seen till ballots are cast
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:37 AM
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6. So, when is Barack's concession speech? n/t
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:50 AM
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19. It's all over for Obama
I mean these polls stop the Obama campaign's 8 state winning streak in it's tracks...he may as well concede, because these are the kind of "results" the Clintons' must have been referring to with their new attack strategy...pack it in Barack, and a note to Texans; don't even BOTHER showing up because these polls tell us all we need to know because we ALL know that poll numbers equate into victories this year...right?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:39 AM
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9. When is the Texas debate? Can't wait.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:42 AM
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15. Oh yeah! get some.
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:41 AM
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11. Extending, even as we speak.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:41 AM
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12. To all my old friends in Texas I say thank you and beware of the Sirens song
lash yourself to the mast and plug your ears lest you hear it.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:42 AM
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14. Excellent!
K&R
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:51 AM
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22. I wonder what you think if these numbers
February 15, 2008 - Texas Primary Preferences

From..American Research Group, Inc.

Democrats TX

Clinton 42%
Obama 48%
Someone else 3%
Undecided 7%

Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama among self-described Democrats 47% to 42%. Obama leads Clinton among self-described independents and Republicans 24% to 71%. Obama leads among men 55% to 29% (47% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads among women 54% to 42%. Clinton leads Obama among white voters 51% to 40% (53% of likely Democratic primary voters), Obama leads Clinton among African American voters 76% to 17% (22% of likely Democratic primary voters), and Clinton leads Obama among Latino voters 44% to 42%.

22% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary and 20% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 30% of men say they would never vote for Clinton in the primary.

For details, click on the R or D for each state


I think you lead is shrinking!!!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:49 AM
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18. Thats a small sample. Does it include independents
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:50 AM
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20. Rasmussen is a respectable pollster... I would have a hard time not believing this result
As much as I don't like the answer.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:54 AM
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32. Quinnipac Poll is the same, and has her far ahead in Ohio and Pennsylvania too.. nt
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:51 AM
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21. Wrong - there are zero mention of independent voters in the whole artical or breakdown.
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:56 AM
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24. HRC...Say good by to Texas
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 11:58 AM by not_too_L8
The numbers are coming in and BO is ahead of HRC when you include all the voters!!!

Clinton 42%
Obama 48%
Someone else 3%
Undecided 7%

Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama among self-described Democrats 47% to 42%. Obama leads Clinton among self-described independents and Republicans 24% to 71%. Obama leads among men 55% to 29% (47% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads among women 54% to 42%. Clinton leads Obama among white voters 51% to 40% (53% of likely Democratic primary voters), Obama leads Clinton among African American voters 76% to 17% (22% of likely Democratic primary voters), and Clinton leads Obama among Latino voters 44% to 42%.

22% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary and 20% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary. 30% of men say they would never vote for Clinton in the primary.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:55 PM
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30. ARG(h) haha nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:55 AM
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23. 32% could change their minds
That's a large number.

However, just 68% of Likely Democratic Primary Voters in Texas say they have made up their mind and are certain about their vote. Ten percent (10%) remain undecided, 5% say there’s a good chance they could change their mind, and 16% say they might change their mind.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 PM
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26. great news
thanks for posting
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:38 PM
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27. yup...
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 12:39 PM by NJSecularist


Rasmussen, middle of the road.

From now on, I'm only going to take SurveyUSA seriously.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:40 PM
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28. rasmussen is terrible at polling big states though...
rasmussen:
Election 2008: California Republican Presidential Primary
California: McCain 38% Romney 38%

Election 2008: California Democratic Presidential Primary
California: Obama 45% Clinton 44%
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:19 AM
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31. Dang, I was hoping Texas succeeded by now...
From a former Alaskan. You know the real BIG state.
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