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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:23 PM Original message |
Obama/McClurkin issue: What part of this don't you get? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. We get it. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. We do get it - we also have seen it WORSE from TeamClinton over the years. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Thanks for providing the perspective some here conveniently overlook. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. And Hillary appeared at an anti-gay minister's fundraiser |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Haven't people already responded to those points |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. There is nothing original in GD:P these days |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Did this deserve it's own thread? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. dbaker is straight, actually, so DOMA doesn't affect him. He is standing WITH us |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Please! Call me Bake! |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. If homophobia is an issue for Obama... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. I can't speak for the Obama supporters, but here's a Clinton supporter's view |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. What Obama supporters don't get is that this was grievously offensive to many GLBT people, |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. The part that describes who the fuck McClurkin is. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Come back after you've done your homework. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Thanks, Baker, the other 43 threads on the subject today got me fixed right up. nt |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. I have to weigh McClurkin vs. the IWR |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. false argument: obama votes to support and fund the Iraq occupation and death over there nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. I appreciate your position, though I disagree with it. |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Absolutely, point taken |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. You asked why he invited McClurkin. The answer is to initiate dialogue. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. That's bull. It was to give a nod to religious bigotry. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. That is ridiculous. Hiring a gay basher is initiating dialogue? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Would you be okay with a Dem presidential candidate "initiating dialogue" with David Duke? |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. Let's be realistic here not that I'm anti-gay but if candidates disinvited homophobes there events.. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. This is not a matter of having homophobes at events but of giving them a platform to spew lies. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
17. Obama backers do get it. But they want to win at any cost, so they pretend it doesn't matter. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. Any comments on the homophobes on Hillary's payroll and web site? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't get this part. |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I guess you're right |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Obama, gay, etc... |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Real or imagined???? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. OMFG |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. When someone has no capacity for empathy they may consider others "self-righteous". |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. All that I can tell you... |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. My religion, which in the larger sense is the same as his, tell me this |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Which is probably why Obama is for... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. That's the trick |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. Not surprisingly, damn few Obama supporters actually responded to the ISSUE |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Sorry, our fingers are sore... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I have said exactly that |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Then you, Prism, and a tiny handful of others are the only ones saying that |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Prism, you are one of a VERY small handful who I've seen say such a thing. |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
29. Donnie McClurken has a great voice, maybe that's all Obama was thinking. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Wrong. Obama was warned, and chose to give McClurkin a platform to speak. Furthermore |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. The ex-gay movement kills kids |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. McClurkin has the right to say anything he wants to say |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. They get it: they just don't care. n/t |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'm not sure who is trying to convince who of what here? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. The part I don't get is where that is important enough to change my mind |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
50. If you're actually looking for answers rather than just trying another smear... |
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