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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:41 PM
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Who should Obama's running mate be?
I know he doesn't have the nomination yet, but I'm relatively sure he will and frankly who Hillary might have as a running mate is of no interest to me. Any thoughts out there?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:41 PM
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1. I like Clark.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:58 PM
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31. Either Wes Sr. or Jr. ! nt
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:50 PM
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53. Ken Starr
Given thats where his supporters talking points come from
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:55 PM
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57. Sleep now.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:41 PM
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2. John Edwards
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:42 PM
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3. Hillary
A lot of people like that idea. I don't.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:43 PM
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4. Not Hillary, shes everything hes running against, doesn't make too much sense
Plus it'll turn off moderate repubs/indies who want to vote for him but not for her.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 PM
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Republicans dont vote for democrats
Thats a fallacy and one of the biggest problems I have with Obama, honesty
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 PM
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54. x
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 PM by niceypoo
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paperbag_ princess Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:09 PM
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59. Why is Hillary everything
he is running against and not the right wingers?

but agreed, Hillary would not be a good fit for him.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:44 PM
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5. Wes Clark
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:44 PM
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6. Joe Biden
Why? :think: Biden-Gelb
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 PM
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10. Would love to see Biden on the ticket
But would hate to lose his senate seat.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:08 PM
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39. if he's VP then
he has the vote
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:22 PM
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46. I'm sure there is another Biden that could run for U.S. Senate
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:32 PM
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63. Delaware has a Dem governor
And the two top candidates to succeed her are Democrats as well.

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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:47 PM
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12. If Obama could convince Biden, it would be a real coup.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 PM by calmblueocean
I'd hate to lose two Dem Senators like that, but I think they complement each other well.

Also, it rolls off the tongue: Obama-Biden!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:35 PM
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49. Couldn't Biden run for both (like Lieberman did) and when the Obama/Biden ticket wins
Wouldn't the Governors of their respective states then appoint a successor for the remainder of their term? :shrug: I don't know - I thought they did.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:53 PM
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56. I think you're right, but Biden would be missed in the Senate
It's a small price to pay, though!
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:31 PM
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62. I think his son would probably run
If Biden doesn't run for reelection (b/c he's running for VP) or if he runs for both offices and resigns his Senate seat, then the person appointed to the seat would probably be his son Beau Biden.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:52 PM
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23. Biden would be fantastic.
Not sure if he'd want it or not, he hasn't really said. He's such a strong voice in the Senate, though. Gov. Minner would absolutely give his seat to another Dem, so we'd be safe in the Senate.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:11 PM
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43. Ooh. I'm getting a funny feeling going up my leg! n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:45 PM
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51. I didn't know you posted on DU Mr. Matthews
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:44 PM
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7. I've heard the name Gen. Anthony Zinni floated recently, and I'm
not alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni

snip//

n effort to get him to run for the U.S. Senate has stalled indefinitely.<3> Zinni has said he will never run for office. He says his decision to endorse President George W. Bush in 2000 was a mistake. He plans to avoid politics in the future.<4> However, on March 3, 2006, Zinni joined fellow former U.S. Marines General Joseph P. Hoar, Lt. General Greg Newbold, Lt. General Frank Petersen, and Congressman Jack Murtha in endorsing fellow former U.S. Marine and Secretary of the Navy Jim Webb for U.S. Senate in Virginia.<5> Zinni has been floated as a possible Vice Presidential running mate for Barack Obama, should Obama win the Democratic nomination.<6>
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:55 PM
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28. God, I hope not. We need an experienced politican to swim among the sharks and fight the RW, both
in the media and in Congress, for Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:01 PM
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34. I trust Obama's instincts implicitly; I'm sure he'll make the right
decision should he have the opportunity.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:07 PM
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38. I hope he relies on his own instincts instead of being pushed by party leaders
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:09 PM by wienerdoggie
who are mired in "old think" about regions, specific interest groups, etc.
edit to add: That's what frightens me about the Zinni talk--it's like someone's saying "McCain has military experience--we'll top that with a general!" whether or not it makes any sense on any other level.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:45 PM
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8. I like Clark or Edwards both..
...depends who is interested. If Gore is the VP candidate, that does leave the Atty Gen spot open for JRE.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 PM
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9. Medea Benjamin of Code Pink. She was against the war from the start so
that makes her just as qualified.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 PM
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11. Clark or Edwards
Both seem like good, well known choices who are widely respected.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 PM
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13. Obama has a plethora of fine talent to choose from within the Democratic Party.
I'm seeing someone older and seasoned to provide an anchor to the ticket.
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 PM
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14. Jim Webb...
... he's articulate and pugnacious. He might not be the progressive we'd like to see, but I think he'd do a lot to assuage critics' complaints that Obama isn't tough or mean enough.
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JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:50 PM
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19. Nope -- Webb
will cost BO the women vote ... remember his novels ???
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:49 PM
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15. Michelle
oh I guess she already is.

Nevermind.

She is so impressive though.

Wows
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:49 PM
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16. The Easter bunny?... No! The tooth fairy.
Where's my pony?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:50 PM
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17. Jim Webb/Bill Richardson/or Tim Kaine
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:50 PM
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18. Tony Zinni would be interesting
Clark as well - except isn't he a strong Clinton supporter?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:53 PM
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25. No to Zinni--we won't run a guy who's never given a political speech, never
wrote a bit of legislation, does not have a hand in public policy, no one knows a damn thing about him except he's a military general. Bad move.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:04 PM
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36. Won't happen. One funny name is enough.
Can you imagine it? Obama/Zinni 2008. Especially since that can be initialized as OZ 2008 -- which hints at Obama's Wizard-of-Oz-like qualities.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:05 PM
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37. LOL! Same with "Obama/Kaine", the anesthetic--"Get Numb, America!"
Bad, bad ideas, both.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:51 PM
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20. A hard-nosed, experienced foreign policy/national security older white male
who can run interference with Congress--it will be an important choice for psychological reasons. And it won't be a neophyte unknown like Zinni, and it won't be Clark. That's my best guess.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:08 PM
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40. Bob Graham fits the bill....
There are other Foreign Police guys out there who fit the bill but none that could deliver a state.

He is revered in FLorida and would completely obliterate whateve advantage McCaain mught have with seniors in the state,

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:10 PM
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42. I suppose he's a possibility. I like Biden more, or Jack Reed.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:20 PM
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45. Neither can deliver a state that Obama would not win to begin with
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:21 PM by Perky
I like Jack reed alot... but he is an unknown on the national stage.


Biden would make a fine choice but I just do not think he adds to the ticket.

He would score a coup however if he names his nominees for secretary of State and AG before the election. These are two areas where the american people are going to demand competence. Richardson is the obvious choice for state I am still chewing on an AG...Napolitano would be a great choic and might put Arizona in play.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:27 PM
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47. I don't know about choosing people to deliver a state. I always question
that approach--it seems very cynical, and does nothing for the ticket in terms of chemistry, teamwork, etc.--AND it's not guaranteed to work (Edwards in NC). I think it's better to choose someone who can fill in Obama's perceived weaker areas and give people confidence that the ticket will be a grown-up team who will have a shared mission. Much as I hate Cheney, he filled that role for Bush--any worries that Bush was inexperienced were swept away with Cheney--it was psychological insurance. Graham might do it, or he might be an uninspiring choice. I think Obama might surprise us, to be honest--he has not followed convention on almost anything so far. I don't see him just choosing someone based on a checklist.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:51 PM
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21. I have a funny feeling its goin to be Clinton if she loses.
Can't ya just see it now? The both emerge from the brokered convention arm and arm... a merging of the two titans?

I just feel we are all getting set up for this.

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:52 PM
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22. At this point, I'd float McClurkin's name just to be a dick
But I'm like that.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:53 PM
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24. I like Clark, but that alliance might not be possible.
In which case, I would go with Biden.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:54 PM
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26. How about.....Gary Hart?
Old enough to offset Obamas perception of being "too young" against McCain, and experienced enough with DC politics to help get Obama's plaform through Congress.

He himself was ripped off by the super delegates in 84, and his soft spoken ways are a good fit with Obama.

:shrug:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:57 PM
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30. Old, and out of the action for far too long. Would make a good advisor, though.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:55 PM
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27. Joe Lieberman. n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:58 PM
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32. ditto that^
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:57 PM
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29. If Obama wins the nomination,
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 12:58 PM by DFW
I could see him picking Hillary, but just as easily someone else.
If it's someone else, Joe Biden is a possibility, but he might
just as easily pick someone from outside the obvious circle. I'm
not sure that would be such a good idea, but it might be a daring
idea. Wes Clark would be a good choice, even if he is a Hillary
supporter (so what? Hillary isn't?), as his military credentials
dwarf McCain's, and would pour molten lead on all the medals McCain
might want to trot out to strut before the guns'n'god crowd.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:00 PM
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33. I vote for an empty bottle. Seems fitting n/t
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:02 PM
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35. Barbara Boxer nt
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:08 PM
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41. Feingold
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:38 PM
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66. Seconded. Feingold's the best possible choice.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:12 PM
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44. Obama-Kennedy
or Obama-Kerry
Obama-Biden
Obama-Edwards
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:52 PM
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55. Obama Kennedy would be a definite loss.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:28 PM
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48. He should probably win the nomination first.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:44 PM
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50. I disagree
There is very little chance he won't win it. McCain is on his own now - he can start running for President. I think it's time for Obama to start thinking strategically about running mates and floating some names out there.
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Staples Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:48 PM
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52. Evan Bayh
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:57 PM
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I would have said John Edwards two weeks ago. Now? Don't know.
Hillary? No.

Webb? Maybe.

Ann Richards ghost? Now you're talking.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:57 PM
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58. Ted Kennedy
he's all about "CHANGE!"
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:36 PM
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60. I'm kinda keen on the question for both candidates, because one of them
is very likely to be the next president, and legislation will get through the Senate if the man or woman presiding over it knows pretty well how that's done.

If we are to have meaningful reform in health care, I think the vice president is going to have to shepherd it through Congress. So for me, it's a crucial pick.

I think some names out there work for both candidates.

Whether they want the job or not, the other 7 Democrats originally on the debate stage would be fertile grounds for a choice.

As well, I think Gov. Richardson gives us some gravitas west of the Mississippi and with Hispanic voters, plus he's no slouch on energy. All pertinent, all helpful.

General Clark gives us a military profile with the added plus of being from a Southern state.

Although I am far less enthusiastic about Evan Bayh, I expect he will be discussed as an option.

Tom Daschle's name might make a couple lists also.

I personally prefer Russ Feingold or Bill Bradley. Kathleen Sebelius would be a dramatic choice, and I love that she is a Democrat from a real red state.


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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:37 PM
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61. Tony Rezko n/t
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:34 PM
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64. Can him & Michelle pick out the drapes first?
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:38 PM
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65. Jack Reed or Tim Kaine
Obama needs to have either (a) someone who can shore up the ticket's perceived weaknesses on foreign policy, defense and experience, or (b) a Washington outsider to reinforce the "newness" appeal of the ticket.

I think his best options would be either Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia or Sen. John Francis "Jack" Reed of Rhode Island. Both have their strengths and weaknesses but either would complement Obama well.

Kaine comes from a reddish swing-state that could very well go to the Democrats this election. Trying to flip a state with the VP nominee is usually futile, but it can work at the margins. So a popular governor in a swing state could be enough to flip a state even while a nominee from a very red or very blue state probably wouldn't flip it. Kaine could flip Virginia, and he has won statewide election twice (once as lt. governor and once as governor). Downsides are that he hasn't served as governor for very long (less than 3 years by Nov. 2008) and he'd be succeeded for a year by the Republican lieutenant governor. He also doesn't have any military or diplomatic experience.

Reed has not been floated very much, but he'd be a good pick for the same reasons Biden and Dodd would be good picks, except that he has a few added advantages. Biden and Dodd AND Reed all have plenty of foreign policy experience and lots of Washington experience, but Reed is slightly younger than both of them and has plenty of military experience. He is a graduate of West Point, a Vietnam vet, and a former paratrooper. He also serves as a ranking member of the Armed Services committee. He is a reliable liberal and very articulate even if somewhat low key. Downsides are that he doesn't flip a state and he might have to drop his reelection bid (he's up this year) or else he'd have to be replaced in January by the Republican governor.

Other possible picks are Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas, Jim Webb (a favorite of many but I think he'd be a poor fit for VP) and a handful of others. But Kaine and Reed would be the best choices, I think.
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