Since when is ARG reliable?

[PresidentObama]

Some of you are pushing this ARG poll that shows Obama leading in Texas.

Wasn't ARG the poll that had Hillary up by a good margin before her third place finish in Iowa?

Haven't they been wrong most of the time?

Wasn't it just last week that some report showed ARG was one of the most unreliable polls out there?

Is it only when Barack is down in the ARG polls that you dismiss them?

[LostinVA]

1. Yup -- they were dissing ARG last week, too

[PresidentObama]

8. Funny how things change. And so soon too n/t

[Renew Deal]

14. Look at the ARG thread.

A lot of people don't buy it. But Rassmussen is no better. IRV has it at 8 points. Right in the middle, so I don't get what the argument is.

[rinsd]

2. The second it showed Obama winning.

ARG has been ignored almost entirely since their Iowa numbers were garbage.

[PresidentObama]

17. Very true. Until it shows Obama winning, then it's "reliable"

I remember when I was for Edwards and I warned about the ARG poll showing Hillary ahead in Iowa.

They just aren't reliable.

[rinsd]

27. Only for the newbies. The Obama oldtimers dismissed the results.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Since when are any polls 2.5 weeks out reliable?

[PresidentObama]

6. Here's one from YESTERDAY showing her CRUSHING him in Texas:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/texas/texas_democratic_presidential_primary

ARG isn't reliable. Sorry. Hillary is leading in Texas!

[MadBadger]

7. Rasmussen isnt reliable either: See my post below.

[BeyondGeography]

9. See, you're falling into the same trap as the ARG pushers

Texas polls don't mean squat at this point. I would ignore them for the next two weeks if I were you.

[PresidentObama]

11. You should tell that to your own Team then.

And I don't need polls to know Hillary is leading in Texas.

Texas is Clinton country :)

[MadBadger]

16. SHe is probably up by aroun 8-11 points

And Obama hasnt stepped foot in Texas yet.

[BeyondGeography]

19. We've got a team member meeting at 2:30 EST

Ya hear that, team?

[thoughtcrime1984]

10. No polls matter, see you in 2.5 weeks!

Gobama!

[The Ghost]

4. I remember

them being very reliable in 2004, and mostly with primaries, not caucuses. How was ARG with their SC/NH, etc etc polls this year? Im asking, cause I really dont know. Was IA their only screw up?

[MadBadger]

5. According to This Graph, Rasmussen is 19th most reliable, and ARG is 21

I think this just proves they all suck

http://www.surveyusa.com/

[rinsd]

15. Wow how low ye have fallen Mason-Dixon.

[MadBadger]

18. Mason Dixon had Hillary winning by 6 in Alabama and Obama winning by only six in Georgia

[Occam Bandage]

12. It isn't. ARG is shit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4603062&mesg_id=4603248

[QC]

13. When they started showing Obama ahead.

The moment they have him behind they will revert to being a shitty polling outfit.

[NJSecularist]

ARG is terrible, but so is Rasmussen

I'll wait for SurveyUSA.

[Renew Deal]

20. This is dumb.

ARG is crap. So is Rassmusen. IRV has it at 8 points. That's pretty much in the middle. So what's the point of arguing.

Also a lot of Obama people in the ARG thread say they don't trust it. Funny thing is that ARG always underestimates Obama's support.

[PresidentObama]

24. Underestimates? Yes, because ARG is out to get Obama.

:sarcasm:

[Renew Deal]

25. I didn't even imply that.

But they have always showed Obama with less support than he actually has (until maybe now).

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. I would suggest...

that all polling firms are fairly unreliable and their methodology is all very similar. And there high margins of error are due to rapidly chaning opinions brought on by one candidate surging, and the other circling the drain.

[elixir]

22. Obama contributes the most to superdelegates campaigns, courting their vote

Obama: $695,000
Clinton: $200,000

[loveangelc]

23. they were rigt in mo...

[PresidentObama]

26. And wrong almost everywhere else...

[NJSecularist]

28. They were right in California, Maryland and Tennessee

Which Super Tuesday polls were they wrong about?

[MadBadger]

30. CT

[Tarc]

29. Why, since it shows the O-Bots what they want to hear, of course!

[Mass]

31. It is not and more than one Obama supporters said so. Why do you feel necessary to waste a thread on

that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4603062&mesg_id=4604189

BTW since when is any poll that far from an election right, and I do not see you object to threads posting polls with Clinton ahead.